Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Wise words man. I wish I had unlimited funds and all the time in the world for bodybuilding and PE. But that is not the real world. We buy food with money, not with a big dick.

And also, physical fades with age. If we are top decile for physique and penis size, don’t obsess and go enjoy life. When we’re 75, we’re not going to be thinking, “if only my penis was 5mm longer”. But if we’ve sacrificed wealth and relationships for PE, we will likely be thinking, “I wish I had better friends and enough money to enjoy my twilight years”.

Kyrpa, does it make sense to take collagen supplements?

Well it is controversial because of the lack of real evidence for ligaments. Some indications of increased collagen synthesis have been shown when significant amount of hydrolyzed peptides are consumed 60 minutes before exercise. This is controversial as 100% increase has been found in tendons with exercise alone.
Another aspect is that all markers of collagen renewal have been found including biomarkers for decorin etc. Which would mean that the elastic properties remain intact.

Surely it is worth to try especially combined with vitamin -C . At age of more than 30 , hydrolyzed collagen peptide consumption has been seen benefiting as a anti-aging agent keeping the skin healthy.

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Despite some promising prospects the studies are usually arrangenged by supplement suppliers and are not placebo controlled by any means.
What happen in cultured cells in vitro can not be projected in the actual supplement use.

If some one is on gaining program with similar to me protocol, I would suggest that taking amino acids proline , hydroxyproline and glysine before the exercise for month or two during the campaign. Then after the decon if the permanent gain is better than everyone elses there can be something on it. I am very cautious on any supplementation effecting our efforts.

Kyrpa, as always exhaustive. And my opinion was much less in-depth analysis. When using any protein-containing supplement that claims to have magical properties, it passes through the gastrointestinal tract and is broken down into amino acids. With a high protein content in the daily diet, the benefits of supplements are minimized, and in such a sensitive topic as penis enlargement it will not work at all. Simply In order to somehow move forward, radical and unusual methods are required, such as a systematic approach to the elastic limit by means of relaxation of stress or creep, warming up with ultrasound and a therapeutic window for even greater lengthening. The dietary supplement looks funny against this background.

Excactly. The only reason collagen supplements may benefit , they are being rich on three amino acid mentioned in previous post.
Hydrolyzed protein is pre-digested into a form aminoacids are more easily available.
Best is to consume the needed amino acids at significant doses prior the exercise in the first place. The net benefit on collagen synthezis may still be marginal.

I agree that it can be one amino (glycine for instance) that has the benefit but aminos work together far more effectively than alone. I took glycine for years as a single supplement along with whey and eaa’s so covering the aminos needed but the last 6+ months I added in collagen peptides (bovine) and my skin has improved in a drastic way, my nails have gotten stronger and the skin flakes I would get on my scalp have vanished completely, I’m not trying to say I understand this but it’s something to consider and I’m not saying this will translate to any pe benefits.

Kyrpa, pudd1ng, I heard you, tnx.

Well, according to naturopathic science, taking one vitamin for this, one mineral for that, one amino acid for this, does not work. According to their science, all essential nutrients work synergistically in the body, and the chronic deficiency of at least 1 of them will lead to chronic symptoms and diseases in the long term. So your experience makes perfect sense.

I agree with that. It has also been my realisation. You might find the method “Nutritional balancing” interesting. It is a scientific approach using a hair tissue mineral analysis as a basis to interpret your mineral and heavy metal household and how it affects you physically and emotionally. From there you are recommended a certain a lifestyle and mineral/vitamin/and more products to get in you in balance with the right quantity thereby improving every aspect of your health. I have done it for a couple of months and it worked but I could not continue because of lack of money. It is still high on my list when I do have enough money.

There is no guessing, it comes with measured numbers and it is tracked throughout. The website is drlwilson.com. The design sucks but the content is good with exceptions.

First of all, thank you so much for your effort, for your view on things, for sharing, for being so humble and scientific at the same time and for trying to make life easier. In my opinion this is breakthrough work. I stumbled upon it a few days ago after having had a break from PE for several years. Actually my thinking was I would probably never do it again, only some maintenance as I tried a lot of things in the last years of my PE career to gain length without success. I added time, weight and methods but without success. There was a clear halt on things. I am pretty certain it is because of the septum and the dorsal thickening, as well.

So I came across this new approach and had a feeling there is something to and I have been digging deeper and deeper, educating myself. Still reading through it. I ordered the recommended US device. It will be here in 2-3 weeks and since I am pretty impatient I wanna start the program based on the principles already. I have a few questions.

What kind of routine would you recommend for the next 2-3 weeks before I get the US device? I guess I have to adapt it a bit but I am not quite sure how.

I am a little afraid that this phase might prevent me from future long term gains. Is this fear justified or can I just go for it? I guess as long as I don’t cause too much of a trauma it should be fine, so no more strengthening of structures, but I am not convinced, though.

I have a vac extender ready to be used, a bib (don’t wanna use it, though), my hands, weights, IR etc.

I am thinking about making a progress log on here, as well and I already started measuring parameters. I have already begun a “warmup” routine for experimentation, basically. I am documenting it as well and hope to be better able to realize interrelationships.

I would be happy if you could help me out on this quest.

Cheers Wurst,

Thank you for the compliments. You know I am just happy to be able to wake up some minds to explore things a bit more.

You can´t harm yourself in 2-3 weeks doing what ever you do. After a long absence you would need to do some basic newbie routines with jelqing and light manual stretching , maybe in conjunction with light load extender 30 minutes sets to prepare yourself for the actual work ahead. You shouldn´t push the limits at this point. Magic start to happen later on with a absence of trauma, you´ll see it yourself.

You could get yourself used to the angles required for us heating so that bits figured out because it was a learning curve for myself using new angles. Could be different for you but for me the only way I feel heat properly from us is hanging otl or bundled otl. I wish I could make it work with fulcrum hanging but no dice. So I use IRL for the fulcrum hanging. This is the way I found it most effective for me personally =

Stress relaxtion = 1.5” fulcrum hanging (IRL, LG hanger) 2kg
Heated = otl hanging (US, Bib hanger) 4kg
Cold = 1.0” Fulcrum hanging (Bib hanger) 6kg, I heat for 10 mins with irl then 10 mins cold

Thank’s for the suggestions. I am going to experiment with phase 1 (conditioning phase) and see what gives me the best results with the least load using a vac extender. I take Kyrpas protocol as a basis. I am also going to start a progress log.

@Pudd1ng
You use a bib hanger and as far as I can remember you do it because you struggle with a vac hanger, right?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to get a vac hanger working and do it this way? In my opinion you need all the length available to be heated and stretched out and that can be achieved much better using a vac hanger as the bib hanger has such a big attachment site.