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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by igigi
And is not gonna grow magically. This specific US therapy being applied to the Septum DOES NOT directly affect BPEL. All this does is grow the septum which opens the door for new gains in EL. Also 1cm is not much. It is of course significant new real gain, but in reality if we want to grow our EL we need to add at least a couple of BPSFL centimeters in order to have room to play.

BPEL will grow once you take a break from US and you exercise specifically for EL.

This is why I haven’t even measured BPEL at all this time of doing this US protocol. Because my primary target and intention is to grow the Spetum. Once I grow the septum then I have potential for ANYTHING else. Without Septum growth, is game over.

Well said


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

What is the BPEL-focused part of your protocol like?

Do you target BPEL simultaneously when you’re lengthening the septum via US, or do you only address the BPEL after the BPFSL work is done with what I would guess girth workouts?

I have recently purchased a stress relaxation based extender and modded it with a velcro strap, I also own an IR lamp. Do you have any recommendations on how I should structure my routine?

I was thinking I should start 1-2cm below my BPFSL and reach it in 20-25 minutes, increasing the length every 5-6 minutes. After that I would introduce IR-heat and extend for another 30 minutes, increasing the strain every 6 minutes or so. After that I would remove heat and let it cool down for 10 minutes. I know IR-heat might not suffice, but I’m willing to try.

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
What is the BPEL-focused part of your protocol like?

Do you target BPEL simultaneously when you’re lengthening the septum via US, or do you only address the BPEL after the BPFSL work is done with what I would guess girth workouts?

I have recently purchased a stress relaxation based extender and modded it with a velcro strap, I also own an IR lamp. Do you have any recommendations on how I should structure my routine?

I was thinking I should start 1-2cm below my BPFSL and reach it in 20-25 minutes, increasing the length every 5-6 minutes. After that I would introduce IR-heat and extend for another 30 minutes, increasing the strain every 6 minutes or so. After that I would remove heat and let it cool down for 10 minutes. I know IR-heat might not suffice, but I’m willing to try.

Mainly the approach is to extend the restricting septum to point gains diminish.
At the point the trend begins to descent introducing the girth orientated exercises.
Then continuing with it for some time before the decon break.

This has been the protocol for latest rounds. I have to remind that I used to have 2-3 jelq sessions a week in the earliest rounds during the lengthening phase. The results were better on BPEL but there isn´t really any proof was it because of it or just the latter rounds just naturally producing diminishing gains.

For the BPEL focused part I have no established protocol. I have been doing several different versions of pumping, clamping and a plethora of manual expansion workouts.
Anyways I have been able to produce BPEL gains following the BPFSL gains. BPFSL gains being crucial for any erectile gains at all either length or girth.

For you then is another thing. I would be advising you to compose the protocol adapting the thing fitting to your environment .With IR it is possible to get some gains as there are examples already posted in my log by IR users adopting the protocol.
You are describing slow introduction of load which can be very productive for you.

With IR you can be expecting reaching the peak temperature at the deepest tissue level at 30 minutes.
This means the last minutes of the heated stretch are really crucial as are the first five of the cooling at extended state.
The window of therapeutic temperature is really narrow comparing to the ultrasound application.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Mainly the approach is to extend the restricting septum to point gains diminish.
At the point the trend begins to descent introducing the girth orientated exercises.
Then continuing with it for some time before the decon break.

This has been the protocol for latest rounds. I have to remind that I used to have 2-3 jelq sessions a week in the earliest rounds during the lengthening phase. The results were better on BPEL but there isn´t really any proof was it because of it or just the latter rounds just naturally producing diminishing gains.

For the BPEL focused part I have no established protocol. I have been doing several different versions of pumping, clamping and a plethora of manual expansion workouts.
Anyways I have been able to produce BPEL gains following the BPFSL gains. BPFSL gains being crucial for any erectile gains at all either length or girth.

For you then is another thing. I would be advising you to compose the protocol adapting the thing fitting to your environment .With IR it is possible to get some gains as there are examples already posted in my log by IR users adopting the protocol.
You are describing slow introduction of load which can be very productive for you.

With IR you can be expecting reaching the peak temperature at the deepest tissue level at 30 minutes.
This means the last minutes of the heated stretch are really crucial as are the first five of the cooling at extended state.
The window of therapeutic temperature is really narrow comparing to the ultrasound application.

Appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions! Very helpful.

With what you said, I think I should start the heat assisted phase five minutes earlier, already starting it at the point I haven’t yet reached my BPFSL, but just about to. It’s a shame I don’t have a system which I could use to gauge the load I would be producing, as it would be really useful.

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
Appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions! Very helpful.

With what you said, I think I should start the heat assisted phase five minutes earlier, already starting it at the point I haven’t yet reached my BPFSL, but just about to. It’s a shame I dont have a system which I could use to gauge the load I would be producing, as it would be really useful.


I am not sure what is the adjusting mechanism on your setup, but in general there is a possibility to use standardized loads on static/stress relaxation extenders.

Using miniature/nano torque wrenches for tightening the rods in some cases. This way the load is at least controlled by some accuracy.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I am not sure what is the adjusting mechanism on your setup, but in general there is a possibility to use standardized loads on static/stress relaxation extenders.

Using miniature/nano torque wrenches for tightening the rods in some cases. This way the load is at least controlled by some accuracy.


I’m afraid to say I’m quite useless when it comes to anything to do with tools and mechanics. The extender is the basic LeLuv slider extender: Penis Extender SLIDER Kits - Basic, Hybrid, Deluxe

Well, then don’t worry about it. Try to keep it in range by the feel


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper

I’m afraid to say I’m quite useless when it comes to anything to do with tools and mechanics. The extender is the basic LeLuv slider extender: Penis Extender SLIDER Kits - Basic, Hybrid, Deluxe

You can always use a hanging scale for pulling the slider with determined load and adjusting the rods to place every time you re-adjust.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
You can always use a hanging scale for pulling the slider with determined load and adjusting the rods to place every time you re-adjust.


Well there’s an idea.

Do you have any information about Tutt’s current efforts by the way?

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
Well there’s an idea.

Do you have any information about Tutt’s current efforts by the way?

Radiosilence


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Radiosilence


That’s a damn shame.

Do you think AM practices could work as BPEL growth inducing workouts?

After a semi recent stretching injury I’m all about safety. No unnecessary forces ever again.

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
That’s a damn shame.

Do you think AM practices could work as BPEL growth inducing workouts?

After a semi recent stretching injury I’m all about safety. No unnecessary forces ever again.


For EQ and as a maintenance between sets for sure. Purely for size, not so convinced at all. More than cushing blood back and forth is surely needed.

If you are concerned about forces in BPEL/Girthwork, then you may need to adapt a semi erect clamping procedure and manipulate the expansion manually with your hands. That is very effective way of having maximal expansion with the lowest possible forces.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Swanglow223
Ok nvm on the question above.I’ve read through the thread and have been looking for sometime now and have decided I will partake. If some one could politely dum this down for me I have a US machine & have been running my own experiment with a LG hanger By starting off with 2ib with heating pad for warm up, then add 2 more US heate & finally 5 min of hand pulls mostly fulcrum I do feel fatigue but strain I’m not really seeing as much as I should any ideas?

Not having any detailed info it is very hard to give any advice. But in general it is very much depended on the temperature. Temperature elevation is straightforwardly proportional to given intensity and time if the heated area is maximum of 2-3 times the ERA of the transducer. The threshold intensity should be 1.5w/ cm^2 with continuous mode at least, to expect temperature elevation enough.

Secondly the measuring protocol has to be established with millimetrical scale to detect the differences.

Hopefully you have found the way. Good gains for you.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by djrobins
Do US heating restarted your stalled gains? It sounds like you were clamping along with it.

I can get girth gains with it. But I was not committed to continue with the gain rate. I keep looking for the possible breakthrough similar to length work.
In the case of not finding I surely take the change to work with modest gains.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
Kyrpa,

Did the noose work much better than the penimaster pro? Where did you get your noose? Is circulation a potential concern?

I am building a slightly modified captains wrench as grip/comfort is a major issue for me with other methods I have tried.

I am confortable with adjustable noose made out of Breakaway nylon coaster. Similar to Capernicus1 clamping device assembly.
I have a rubbery cockring with a perfect groove on the top of it for the clamp fit into.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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