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Where did this guy “Tutt” go? He was very active but suddenly just disappeared. Why is it that most of the guys starting a US protocol just seems to fade away?
190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0
210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3
___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3
Where did this guy “Tutt” go? He was very active but suddenly just disappeared. Why is it that most of the guys starting a US protocol just seems to fade away?
Yeah it’s weird, longerstretch, Manko, Tutt seemed to be the ones very involved with us then nothing?
Yeah it’s weird, longerstretch, Manko, Tutt seemed to be the ones very involved with us then nothing?
Yes, and there are at least 5-6 other guys that I know of. Maybe some of them are on deacon?
190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0
210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3
___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3
Yeah it’s weird, longerstretch, Manko, Tutt seemed to be the ones very involved with us then nothing?
I have tried to contact Manko with no response as we are surely missing him. Longerstretch has more important things in his life at the moment but surely coming back some day.
Tutt, comes and goes without no real serious interest on building his penis, his involvement is all about scientific/engineering based. Last time we have been in contact he was pondering on really, really significant investment on experimental equipment. I don´t know how that have been panned out.
START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"
When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)
Was there ever a consensus reached on the safety of using ultrasound while clamping ?
I don´t know can we call on any consensus as the participants have been lacking.
Anyways this is what we know:
It is difficult to heat clamped penis with moderate intensity because of the blood inside.
About the safety, potential issues have been listed in ultrasound thread.
No one has been reporting any issues at least that I am aware of.
There are indications that heating stretched or bundled stretched penis before hand and then use the clamp for semierect expansion work results significantly better girth enlargement during the exercise . In long term not any major groundbreaking results but at least gains.
START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"
When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)
Yes, and there are at least 5-6 other guys that I know of. Maybe some of them are on deacon?
Some gainers are on extended decon, and let´s be honest some could have been hoping for easy gains just like that without the consistency needed.
START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"
When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)
I am back on it myself. Have already ran three sessions with penimaster pro with major frustration. Seems obvious that I can´t any longer get the session lasting grip with it so I am turning on noose style stretching. Tried once already and I am going to perform the whole period with it.
START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"
When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)
I don´t know can we call on any consensus as the participants have been lacking.Anyways this is what we know:
It is difficult to heat clamped penis with moderate intensity because of the blood inside.
About the safety, potential issues have been listed in ultrasound thread.
No one has been reporting any issues at least that I am aware of.There are indications that heating stretched or bundled stretched penis before hand and then use the clamp for semierect expansion work results significantly better girth enlargement during the exercise . In long term not any major groundbreaking results but at least gains.
Fair enough.
I’ve just started playing around with ultrasound while stretching, seems positive so far in terms of superb EQ.
I’ll try it clamped and report back.
I’ve mentioned this before but anyone having trouble with vachanger type slippage issues should try using water in it, for short high weight sessions ie 20mins or so it’s unbeatable.
I don´t know can we call on any consensus as the participants have been lacking.Anyways this is what we know:
It is difficult to heat clamped penis with moderate intensity because of the blood inside.
About the safety, potential issues have been listed in ultrasound thread.
No one has been reporting any issues at least that I am aware of.There are indications that heating stretched or bundled stretched penis before hand and then use the clamp for semierect expansion work results significantly better girth enlargement during the exercise . In long term not any major groundbreaking results but at least gains.
Do US heating restarted your stalled gains? It sounds like you were clamping along with it.
Manko I sometimes worried was going to push things too far - I hope he didn’t hurt himself.
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Kyrpa,
Did the noose work much better than the penimaster pro? Where did you get your noose? Is circulation a potential concern?
I am building a slightly modified captains wrench as grip/comfort is a major issue for me with other methods I have tried.
"Relationships aren’t all about penetration." Mrs NicholasVan
I started my log in June, with promising and exciting results. Then my gains stopped, but it was due to my rudimentary setup. While doing tests, I believe I found the cause of the problem.
I am addressing that finding with Kyrpa to confirm with his experience, meanwhile I have a new vac hanging setup coming to improve my technique. As soon as I receive my new cup I will resume the protocol with certain modifications in order to correct the mishaps.
Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")
Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")
Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL
I want to clarify something, since I’ve started this program. I’m on my second day of my second cycle of this. My BPFSL was 21.6 cm initially (day 1 cycle 1, before doing the 30-min pre-stretch or the ultrasound).I’ve been doing 30 mins prestretch, 27 mins ultrasound (my inexpensive unit only does 1MHz, so I’ve been using 2.0-2.5 W/cm^2), then 30 mins poststretch with intermittent fulcrum stretches. All manual, so there’s probably forearm gains in my future..
At my postworkout measurement, my BPFSL was 28.3 cm. I’m consistently getting ~3% increases each session, still getting nocturnal erections, still getting erections with appropriate stimuli hands-free. How soon/after how many cycles should I expect BPEL gains?
Give it a month. Please update your PE stats.
I started my log in June, with promising and exciting results. Then my gains stopped, but it was due to my rudimentary setup. While doing tests, I believe I found the cause of the problem.I am addressing that finding with Kyrpa to confirm with his experience, meanwhile I have a new vac hanging setup coming to improve my technique. As soon as I receive my new cup I will resume the protocol with certain modifications in order to correct the mishaps.
How are you applying US heat and how do you keep it heated at 104 degrees? Which US device are you using?
I want to clarify something, since I’ve started this program. I’m on my second day of my second cycle of this. My BPFSL was 21.6 cm initially (day 1 cycle 1, before doing the 30-min pre-stretch or the ultrasound).I’ve been doing 30 mins prestretch, 27 mins ultrasound (my inexpensive unit only does 1MHz, so I’ve been using 2.0-2.5 W/cm^2), then 30 mins poststretch with intermittent fulcrum stretches. All manual, so there’s probably forearm gains in my future..
At my postworkout measurement, my BPFSL was 28.3 cm. I’m consistently getting ~3% increases each session, still getting nocturnal erections, still getting erections with appropriate stimuli hands-free. How soon/after how many cycles should I expect BPEL gains?
This does not sound realistic. I am sorry but staring your penis more than 7 centimeters in one session doesnt even sound possible. From 21.6 pre BPFSL to 28.3 BPFSL?? Thats like 2 inches and 3/4. Almost 3 inches in one workout.
Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")
Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")
Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL