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Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Aquaflex is perfect wth acoustic performance . To use it more than once you have to be careful not to use too much compression as it starts to crumble.

Thank you Kyrpa, I will look it up.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Aquaflex is perfect wth acoustic performance . To use it more than once you have to be careful not to use too much compression as it starts to crumble.

Also there are reusable standoffs available, usually costing+ $100 .
One possibility is to mold a a permanent standoff pad fixed into transducer using DIY synthetic medical gelatin such as Humimic.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I really don´t know how to describe any better than already did. Did you read me discussing this topic very recently also, few pages ago with watermann888.
Few responses page 58 onwards. There you can see the study involving IC muscle strength and stamina relative to ED problems.
In the study you can see in the picture that if penis stretched upwards in 30 degree angle to the upper body the IC muscles deliver the most powerful contraction when doing the kegel.
Now if you want to isolate each IC leg separately and minimize the BC contraction, then direct the pull more to your left or right.
Pointing towards your hip is a good starting point for learning to isolate each separate IC leg.
Maybe the easiest way to learn the control would be laying on your back.

Later you can try to some bends and twists to activate striations along the shaft. Once you find the right angles and bends, you can discover the muscular striation actually going quite further along the shaft.

Never seen this study before. That’s a great finding and i also believe that this excerise is very valuable for curing ED or simply for improving EQ. We know that the IC muscle plays a huge role in the erection process.

From my own expreriements with kegels i have find that i can feel the strongest ICM contradictions while i am erect. When i kegel during an erection i place my fingers to the side where the ICM is located and i can feel it strongly contracting. Also by pulling carefully the erect penis to each side and kegel we can target each ICM leg more accurately.

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
Never seen this study before. That’s a great finding and i also believe that this excerise is very valuable for curing ED or simply for improving EQ. We know that the IC muscle plays a huge role in the erection process.

From my own expreriements with kegels i have find that i can feel the strongest ICM contradictions while i am erect. When i kegel during an erection i place my fingers to the side where the ICM is located and i can feel it strongly contracting. Also by pulling carefully the erect penis to each side and kegel we can target each ICM leg more accurately.

That´s because the ICM is best activated during the erection by nitric oxide. Despite being striated muscle it differs form normal skeletal muscles having high tonal activity. This activity keeping the ICM highly alerted state contracting spontaniously. BC muscle instead being fully relaxed if not contracted .

I get spontaneus semi erection training ICM very easily, and it seems to allow the full potential contractions.

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
Take the more experienced guys answers over mine. I have been measuring immediately after my workout

Have you been doing manuals for your post? I have read that v stretches help the thick septum too, could be beneficiary that in conjunction with your over the leg?

For my next cycle, I am contemplating using the bathmate as a quick 5 minute pump after the cyclic manuals to help force some blood at the newly elongated state. I had read in this thread (many pages ago) of sometime attempting that too.

Wondering the effectiveness of it.


I think the bathmate should wait for the latter part of the campaign. After the post-exercise BPFSL gains has stalled it sounds a fine choice.
At this point you just push the envelope and watch it bend


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by igigi
Anybody recommend a specific site for gel pads? I was searching online and there are a few but I am not sure about quality.

What I am thinking is, since I am using the US with pernis over the leg, as mentioned before I can feel the burn in the leg surface underneath. Since I already have the notion of the direction of the waves, I was thinking that if I add a layer of gel pad on top of the shaft, then I can make the waves hit completely the Septum and almost nothing in the leg, making it more efficient.

I also use the aquaflex. It works better for me, but depending on the device it isn’t really a 1 for 1 change in heating depth. Acoustic gel is made to allow the waves to mostly pass through. So what I’m saying is that a 2cm standoff doesn’t necessarily raise the max heated tissue 2cm. You’ll still likely feel the heat on your leg, but in my experience the standoff helps.

Of course this is different if your device has a focal point. In which case the standoff completely changes the location of the focal point in the tissue. I also think the standoff helps me maintain better contact with the shaft.

Originally Posted by Tutt
I also use the aquaflex. It works better for me, but depending on the device it isn’t really a 1 for 1 change in heating depth. Acoustic gel is made to allow the waves to mostly pass through. So what I’m saying is that a 2cm standoff doesn’t necessarily raise the max heated tissue 2cm. You’ll still likely feel the heat on your leg, but in my experience the standoff helps.

Of course this is different if your device has a focal point. In which case the standoff completely changes the location of the focal point in the tissue. I also think the standoff helps me maintain better contact with the shaft.


What do you think of this idea for making your own gel pad..
Using a Food Saver vacuum sealer, place ultrasound gel into either the 11” or 8” sealant roll making a “gel pad” bag and then seal it using the vacuum sealer. You would then have a pad of ultrasound gel you could place under the shaft of your penis while using US on the dorsal side. You could hold it with the opposite hand while directing the US with the other, or fashion a holding stand to rest the pad on that then sits underneath your extended shaft to hold it while administering the US heat from above.

Originally Posted by DaytonaJonah
What do you think of this idea for making your own gel pad..
Using a Food Saver vacuum sealer, place ultrasound gel into either the 11” or 8” sealant roll making a “gel pad” bag and then seal it using the vacuum sealer. You would then have a pad of ultrasound gel you could place under the shaft of your penis while using US on the dorsal side. You could hold it with the opposite hand while directing the US with the other, or fashion a holding stand to rest the pad on that then sits underneath your extended shaft to hold it while administering the US heat from above.

The bag material that comes with my food saver is textured which would likely interrupt the sound transmission.

I really like Kyrpas idea of creating a US phantom with a DIY gel kit. Essentially a 2-3cm wall thickness tube with an inner diameter a bit smaller than the flaccid stretched shaft thickness, and a slit down the side.

I would definitely be making one, but I’ll be experimenting with RF heating instead and won’t be needing US gel. If the RF doesn’t work though, I’ll be making a phantom.

Originally Posted by DaytonaJonah
What do you think of this idea for making your own gel pad..
Using a Food Saver vacuum sealer, place ultrasound gel into either the 11” or 8” sealant roll making a “gel pad” bag and then seal it using the vacuum sealer. You would then have a pad of ultrasound gel you could place under the shaft of your penis while using US on the dorsal side. You could hold it with the opposite hand while directing the US with the other, or fashion a holding stand to rest the pad on that then sits underneath your extended shaft to hold it while administering the US heat from above.

Sounds fine enough to me to give it try.
Down side would be the bag material and the surface texture.
Causing reflction attenuating the intensity and diverged beam.

The bag material acoustic impedance should be as close as possible to the gel and soft tissue.
Everytime beam collide with surface having differering acoustic impedance some percent is reflected back.

I know professional physio therapists making standoffs using a latex glove filled with water.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Sounds fine enough to me to give it try.
Down side would be the bag material and the surface texture.
Causing reflction attenuating the intensity and diverged beam.

The bag material acoustic impedance should be as close as possible to the gel and soft tissue.
Everytime beam collide with surface having differering acoustic impedance some percent is reflected back.

I know professional physio therapists making standoffs using a latex glove filled with water.


“making standoffs using a latex glove filled with water.”
Even a better, more simple idea. Thanks Kyrpa.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Sounds fine enough to me to give it try.
Down side would be the bag material and the surface texture.
Causing reflction attenuating the intensity and diverged beam.

The bag material acoustic impedance should be as close as possible to the gel and soft tissue.
Everytime beam collide with surface having differering acoustic impedance some percent is reflected back.

I know professional physio therapists making standoffs using a latex glove filled with water.

So can the phantom kit you linked to earlier can be used as a stand-off? I was thinking about making a two piece mold, one side being a phantom and the other acting as a stand-off. How thick would the phantom need to be to be effective.

Originally Posted by Diy549
So can the phantom kit you linked to earlier can be used as a stand-off? I was thinking about making a two piece mold, one side being a phantom and the other acting as a stand-off. How thick would the phantom need to be to be effective.

Yes. Some percentage of the intensity will be lost though.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

The phantom should be 2-3 cm thick to ensure the outer boundary reflection not interfering the incident wave anymore.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Кирпа Tell my, I’m going to buy the same device as you, explain to me, some area of the transducer head will not fall on the penis, is it bad or does it not matter? My girth is 11 cm in a sluggish state.

Originally Posted by S.N.R
Кирпа Tell my, I’m going to buy the same device as you, explain to me, some area of the transducer head will not fall on the penis, is it bad or does it not matter? My girth is 11 cm in a sluggish state.

The effective radiating area is 4cm^2, makes it 23mm in diameter so it should fine.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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