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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Now after 9 sessions in 3 weeks I think I am getting it tuned in. The gain is possibly 2 mm now. Unfortunately got a small blister and will take time off. Do you guys think US can be done in a regular noose type extender? I saw Kyrpa’s Penimaster extender picture, apparently the rods are not in the way. LeLuv is selling an inexpensive extender on ebay in regular and large versions with opening 38 and 47 mm respectively. Is it worth picking up for our purpose or is there something better?

Originally Posted by Azazello
Now after 9 sessions in 3 weeks I think I am getting it tuned in. The gain is possibly 2 mm now. Unfortunately got a small blister and will take time off. Do you guys think US can be done in a regular noose type extender? I saw Kyrpa’s Penimaster extender picture, apparently the rods are not in the way. LeLuv is selling an inexpensive extender on ebay in regular and large versions with opening 38 and 47 mm respectively. Is it worth picking up for our purpose or is there something better?

Noose is allright, only getting in the way of heating though.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by pudd1ng
Kyrpa I was hanging a while before introducing us heating and did take a decon before starting up again and I’m nailing down the routine but I have a nagging concern that I should possibly be working girth at the moment to “fill the gap” after reading through the threads again. I’m 7.4” BPEL and 8.2” BPFSL, so 6/8ths of a gap. Do you think it would Be wise to concentrate on girth for now?

This too complex to answer conclusively not understanding your situation completely.

The gap you have would suggest that if you are well enough recuperated from the previous round, gaining for BPFSL with ultrasound should bring instant BPEL gains as well.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by cheeba
Are you heating with the ultrasound wand whilst hanging, stretch etc.. This sounds like an amazing way to heat as IR lamp is too much heat dispersed.. Am I understanding right how your US Wand works, which one do you have can you recommend one to buy?

Amazing thread

Yes. The heating is applied only during the strething effort, which ever the method may be.

Well, I have made it happen with the minimum spec machinery. Few pages ago I made recommendations on optimal equipment.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Кирпа, But what if we use our device as ultraphonophoresis with the conductivity of such a combination as димексид + Lidase, have you ever thought about this? It’s just that I have friends with medical education who injected lidase into the penis, or rather in the tunic area. The substance is extremely interesting, as well as dangerous, but those who put it had a positive result in some way. I also once prepared a mixture of димексид + Lidase and rubbed it into the penis every day for 6 months, but there was no result, since obviously the substances did not reach the desired connective tissue.

Hello how are you doing there are no major new developments since the previous period

Originally Posted by S.N.R
Кирпа, But what if we use our device as ultraphonophoresis with the conductivity of such a combination as димексид + Lidase, have you ever thought about this? It’s just that I have friends with medical education who injected lidase into the penis, or rather in the tunic area. The substance is extremely interesting, as well as dangerous, but those who put it had a positive result in some way. I also once prepared a mixture of димексид + Lidase and rubbed it into the penis every day for 6 months, but there was no result, since obviously the substances did not reach the desired connective tissue.

The permeability of the tissues should increase with ultrasound according to some studies. In the same token what is the substance you would think to help with our efforts is another thing. What makes you think using scar tissue dissolving agents to help us extent the collagenous tissue if there is no scar tissue to begin with?

I am not into substances similar to Lidase at all.

Would you enlighten us if you have some insights into russian papers about the lidase we have no access, as if there is no mechanism other than I described above, I would not spare any thoughts on the substances at all.

There is no studies available if DMSO can deliver any substance deeper than dermis , at least that I am aware of. Even if it had the potential can we assume that any of the substance is left reaching the target tissue.Most likely everything has been absorbed and flushed into systemic circulation by that stage already.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Hello how are you doing there are no major new developments since the previous period

Not at the moment ,just going through the decon. I have been studying further though but there is nothing to publish at the moment.
After few weeks I will kick in with my next lengthening period with more active involvement.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

Not at the moment ,just going through the decon. I have been studying further though but there is nothing to publish at the moment.

After few weeks I will kick in with my next lengthening period with more active involvement.

You are really a master to stick to your plan Kyrpa. With your gains you still can take those looong decons and do no PE at all. I’m one week into my 6 week deacon and I miss it and I (like many others) feel that I am losing time even when I now this is the right way to go for long term breaks.

How long is your deacon?

Do you do any type of penis exercises?

In your opinion, is 6 weeks deacon enough after 14 month of PE?


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
You are really a master to stick to your plan Kyrpa. With your gains you still can take those looong decons and do no PE at all. I’m one week into my 6 week deacon and I miss it and I (like many others) feel that I am losing time even when I now this is the right way to go for long term breaks.
How long is your deacon?
Do you do any type of penis exercises?
In your opinion, is 6 weeks deacon enough after 14 month of PE?

This will be almost 6 months long. It would have been shorter if I had started the ESWT sooner.
To this date none exercises whatsoever excluding occasional sets of IC muscle workouts. I will do some sort of light manuals, mostly concentrating on expansive excersises the last few weeks.

In my opinion based on the information available 6 weeks is nowhere near the decon duration needed.
It should be somewhere from minimum of 120 to 210 days ,depending on the elongation achieved and the level of stresses the used protocol has demanded.
If the stresses has been excessively high and the outcome has been relatively poor the longer the break should be.

I had mini decons during the one and half year process varying from 3 weeks to 8 weeks, and looking retrospectively with better knowledge, each of them should have been longer.The longer the better.

Unfortunately there is no conclusive formula available , the one I am using now is a loosely derived estimation from combining information from studies of hypothetical residual cellular stress decay (60% drop in one day, 70% drop in 1 month, 80 % drop in one year etc.) and the complete collagen remodelling and turnover in 1- 2 years.

If the the complete remodelling takes place at 730 days using the Pareto assumption for modelling, more than 80 % of the remodelling should have been completed before 210 days.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 07-12-2020 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
This will be almost 6 months long. It would have been shorter if I had started the ESWT sooner.
To this date none exercises whatsoever excluding occasional sets of IC muscle workouts. I will do some sort of light manuals, mostly concentrating on expansive excersises the last few weeks.

In my opinion based on the information available 6 weeks is nowhere near the decon duration needed.
It should be somewhere from minimum of 120 to 210 days ,depending on the elongation achieved and the level of stresses the used protocol has demanded.
If the stresses has been excessively high and the outcome has been relatively poor the longer the break should be.

I had mini decons during the one and half year process varying from 3 weeks to 8 weeks, and looking retrospectively with better knowledge, each of them should have been longer.The longer the better.

Unfortunately there is no conclusive formula available , the one I am using now is a loosely derived estimation from combining information from studies of residual cellular stress decay (60% drop in one day, 70% drop in 1 month, 80 % drop in one year etc.) and the complete collagen remodelling and turnover in 1- 2 years.

If the the complete remodelling takes place at 730 days using the Pareto assumption for modelling, more than 80 % of the remodelling should have been completed before 210 days.


Thanks man!
As always helpful.
One last question, aren’t you eager to start up again and curious to see the outcome?


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
I’m one week into my 6 week deacon and I miss it and I (like many others) feel that I am losing time even when I now this is the right way to go for long term breaks.

Missing time? Relative to what? After spending decades with “too small penis” another 6 weeks is nothing, especially if the long enough break ensure future gains at better rate.

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
Thanks man!
As always helpful.
One last question, aren’t you eager to start up again and curious to see the outcome?

Very much so. Very much


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

Very much so. Very much

I knew you were human😉


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
I knew you were human😉

Yeah, I was 28 years old when I found it out myself. It was disappointing at the time.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
The permeability of the tissues should increase with ultrasound according to some studies. In the same token what is the substance you would think to help with our efforts is another thing. What makes you think using scar tissue dissolving agents to help us extent the collagenous tissue if there is no scar tissue to begin with?

I am not into substances similar to Lidase at all.

Would you enlighten us if you have some insights into русский papers about the lidase we have no access, as if there is no mechanism other than I described above, I would not spare any thoughts on the substances at all.

There is no studies available if ДМСО can deliver any substance deeper than dermis , at least that I am aware of. Even if it had the potential can we assume that any of the substance is left reaching the target tissue. Most likely everything has been absorbed and flushed into systemic circulation by that stage already.


I just know 2 things: 1. Lidase helps stretch and soften collagen-based tissues, in particular tendon, one way or another, it’s very difficult to stretch it as far as we know (without taking into account the вязкоупругий properties that are revealed to us when using ultrasonic heating) but we know that the presence of tendon tissue in the body of the penis is about 25% on average. 2. There are medical studies on the elimination of Lidase using фонофорез that ended positively (at least in Russia). This is of course not a call to action, just as a contemplation, like the contemplation of Манько peptides. The only thing, of course, I do not have enough confidence that it is safe, so this is again, just thoughts voiced out loud in a conversation with an intelligent person.

Regarding the provision of evidence in the form of articles using lidase using фонофорез, this is not a problem, it will be much harder to translate, maybe I just don’t think it is appropriate to post such links (with a rare language) here on the forum.


Last edited by S.N.R : 07-13-2020 at .
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