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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by djrobins
How are you applying US heat and how do you keep it heated at 104 degrees? Which US device are you using?

2 US Pro 2000 at the same time. However, temperature is the issue right now. I will elaborate in detail once I start a new adjusted protocol since my last test showed this temperature flaw. I believe I have the solution.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
2 US Pro 2000 at the same time. However, temperature is the issue right now. I will elaborate in detail once I start a new adjusted protocol since my last test showed this temperature flaw. I believe I have the solution.

How are you applying the 2 US Pro 2000 at the same time? Are they touching the cock? Do you ever remove them from the cock? Timings?

Your new 1cm gain is from adding the US pro 2000 to your length routine?

Originally Posted by igigi

It is a breakthrough. I spent a year following the threads, reading, understanding, learning, until I started my own protocol based on Kyrpa’s experience and others contributions. In 2 weeks Im stretching my penis almost 1 inch over its maximum BPFSL. That is a dimension that I never reached, never even dreamed of in my life.

How long were you plateaud before this? Are you saying with the application of US heating during stretches and length work, you are now able to achieve a BPFSL 1” greater than ever before? That is huge, and will translate to at least .5-.75” length gain in BPEL over time.

Originally Posted by mr. Fingers
For how long do you keep your glans in the vacuum continuously would be my first question - it’s probably the biggest defining factor in this. I use a similar setup to Kyrpa’s and for me 30 minutes without a break is the most I’ve done. Once you learn how to use the system well, it gets fairly easy to release the pressure for half a minute or so in order to massage the glans for the fluid buildup to subside (Not counting the occasional case when a slipout happens which is annoying). Are you using the Penimaster Pro as an All Day Stretcher or with ultrasound? In the former case I’d imagine the risk to be significantly bigger compared to the US method which means less time in a vacuum.

Even though I’ve been careful not to cross the half an hour line, when finishing the last unheated stretch there is often quite a heavy fluid buildup at the topmost half of my glans but even that dissipates in less than five minutes. Haven’t encountered blisters luckily. Once you’ve taken a look at that, I’d look at the lubricant used and the vacuum pressure. Sorry to hear about the setback, hopefully you’ll find a suitable method for your gains.

I was keeping the vacuum attachment on for 2 hrs and 20 minutes.

1 hr of penimaster with heat to warm up
20 min of penimaster + US
1 hr of penimaster alone to cool down

Not using it as all day stretcher. Just using it with the above routine for 3 days on, 2 days off.

I also get fluid build up that dissipates. But sometimes I would get some small blisters.. Like 2 or 3 blisters that are like 1/3 the size of a tic tac each.

But a few times I got big blisters like the size of a peanut M&M. Not fun :)

Are most of you guys releasing the vacuum to take breaks, while doing a similar routine as above? Or did I misunderstand the routine in general?

Hey Kyrpa, I noticed in your stats page that during your 5 month decon you lost 9 millimetres in BPEL and BPFSL. Do you think you would’ve kept losing more and more of your gains if you hadn’t started again?

I would be interested in hearing your take on the reversibility of gains, and whether one has to keep on doing a minimum of PE to keep his gains.

Originally Posted by Ext64
I was keeping the vacuum attachment on for 2 hrs and 20 minutes.

1 hr of penimaster with heat to warm up
20 min of penimaster + US
1 hr of penimaster alone to cool down

Not using it as all day stretcher. Just using it with the above routine for 3 days on, 2 days off.

I also get fluid build up that dissipates. But sometimes I would get some small blisters.. Like 2 or 3 blisters that are like 1/3 the size of a tic tac each.

But a few times I got big blisters like the size of a peanut M&M. Not fun :)

Are most of you guys releasing the vacuum to take breaks, while doing a similar routine as above? Or did I misunderstand the routine in general?


Did the US extend your flaccid stretch?

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
Hey Kyrpa, I noticed in your stats page that during your 5 month decon you lost 9 millimetres in BPEL and BPFSL. Do you think you would’ve kept losing more and more of your gains if you hadn’t started again?

I would be interested in hearing your take on the reversibility of gains, and whether one has to keep on doing a minimum of PE to keep his gains.

Hey Plumwhipper,

Good question.
The loss of the gains happened in two stages. The initial drop should have been more linear and predictable dropping out of the protocol. The dimensions had been already stabilized more or less to a pretty nice level.

Another drop was caused by the ESWT. Not needed more than 3-4 sessions with the shockwave and the BPFSL had shrunken 6mm. So this to me is a confirmation the ESWT works like it should be , it causes collagen degradation in great fashion on any healthy connective tissue. You may need to read the shetland pony study to understand this. It is real phenomena.

All in all I am not concerned of the loss, it will come back in no time. It was all expected and having the bodybuilding background I have done it many times before. Going for a break, initially you lose some of the gains to be reversed quickly after the break. Bodily tissues can be easily stretched or grown to the dimensions they once were reached. Muscle memory it is called, maybe in this occasion tissue memory.

And no, I am sure there wouldn´t be more losses if stayed on the break.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Open questions

I can see plenty of questions posted , I will try find the time to cover all / or most of them.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hello Kyrpa, I want to know your opinion. There are people who write that they have BPFSL less than BPEL, do you think this is generally realistic from the point of view of philology? It’s just that for me this is wildness and ignorance, there cannot be an extended length less than an erection. Maybe people just do not pull very much during the measurement or they are simply not educated enough, but what do you say, is this possible?

Originally Posted by S.N.R
Hello Kyrpa, I want to know your opinion. There are people who write that they have BPFSL less than BPEL, do you think this is generally realistic from the point of view of philology? It’s just that for me this is wildness and ignorance, there cannot be an extended length less than an erection. Maybe people just do not pull very much during the measurement or they are simply not educated enough, but what do you say, is this possible?

I’m not Kyrpa, but I was on this site for many many years. MOST people have a BPFSL about 1” longer than BPEL. The guys where the BPEL is nearly the same or a little longer are the anamoly ( < 10% IMHO ).

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
Where did this guy “Tutt” go? He was very active but suddenly just disappeared. Why is it that most of the guys starting a US protocol just seems to fade away?

We’re still around. Some of us are on decons and others are still trying to experiment what works. I have gained 1.2cm in BPFSL but it has not transitioned into any BPEL gain.

I am currently testing two 3MhZ transducers, 15-17 minutes US at 1.8watts with 6lbs. I measure from the ridge of my penis glands to help eliminate the vacuum swollen glands effect. Although the last couple cycle’s I have not been gaining, therefore I need to re-evaluate everything similar to what Igigi has.

Originally Posted by DantheMan2020
We’re still around. Some of us are on decons and others are still trying to experiment what works. I have gained 1.2cm in BPFSL but it has not transitioned into any BPEL gain.

I am currently testing two 3MhZ transducers, 15-17 minutes US at 1.8watts with 6lbs. I measure from the ridge of my penis glands to help eliminate the vacuum swollen glands effect. Although the last couple cycle’s I have not been gaining, therefore I need to re-evaluate everything similar to what Igigi has.

It gets tricky, but I knew in my case had to be STRICTLY something I was doing. There is zero doubt in the science and literature, this is not “broscience” nor internet “theory”, this is real science applied by great guys like Kyrpa and Manko who created the anecdotal experience proving beyond any doubt the result of this science. That is why my whole approach has been to replicate what they did, while trying/testing/modifying a few things here and there.

In my case my gains stopped due to a bizarre event. Some sort of acoustic interference between the 2 transducers was eliminating the sound waves and therefore not heating up properly. The tissues HAVE to reach 40+ degree Celsius. Otherwise, there will NOT be a difference.

Make sure your routine is specifically structured based on proven methods. Some people are like “I throw some US here and there because I feel that works best for me”. That, has zero validity in terms of standardization of protocol or scientific approach, and can lead to countless amounts of inaccurate results making it impossible to deglose and find the cause of the problem.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
It gets tricky, but I knew in my case had to be STRICTLY something I was doing. There is zero doubt in the science and literature, this is not “broscience” nor internet “theory”, this is real science applied by great guys like Kyrpa and Manko who created the anecdotal experience proving beyond any doubt the result of this science. That is why my whole approach has been to replicate what they did, while trying/testing/modifying a few things here and there.

In my case my gains stopped due to a bizarre event. Some sort of acoustic interference between the 2 transducers was eliminating the sound waves and therefore not heating up properly. The tissues HAVE to reach 40+ degree Celsius. Otherwise, there will NOT be a difference.

Make sure your routine is specifically structured based on proven methods. Some people are like “I throw some US here and there because I feel that works best for me”. That, has zero validity in terms of standardization of protocol or scientific approach, and can lead to countless amounts of inaccurate results making it impossible to deglose and find the cause of the problem.

I’m wondering if my strategy with applying two 3mhz transducers has also limited my gains too. I’ll keep you updated! It’s great to see you back at it with :)

Originally Posted by igigi
It gets tricky, but I knew in my case had to be STRICTLY something I was doing. There is zero doubt in the science and literature, this is not “broscience” nor internet “theory”, this is real science applied by great guys like Kyrpa and Manko who created the anecdotal experience proving beyond any doubt the result of this science. That is why my whole approach has been to replicate what they did, while trying/testing/modifying a few things here and there.

In my case my gains stopped due to a bizarre event. Some sort of acoustic interference between the 2 transducers was eliminating the sound waves and therefore not heating up properly. The tissues HAVE to reach 40+ degree Celsius. Otherwise, there will NOT be a difference.

Make sure your routine is specifically structured based on proven methods. Some people are like “I throw some US here and there because I feel that works best for me”. That, has zero validity in terms of standardization of protocol or scientific approach, and can lead to countless amounts of inaccurate results making it impossible to deglose and find the cause of the problem.

How are you measuring temps? I know not with a thermometer stuffed in the urethra.

Originally Posted by djrobins
How are you measuring temps? I know not with a thermometer stuffed in the urethra.

I posted that in my thread a couple of times.

I put the thermometer between the leg and the penis. Since my penis is twisted to rest the dorsal side where the Septum is on my leg, thats the spot where I need the heat to go. While measuring, I push down the rear end of the thermometer. This raise the tip, putting it tight against there septum which is exposed between the leg and the penis, therefore measuring as close as possible to the target tissue. I keep the thermometer there and measure again every 2-3 minutes.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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