Gentlepsycopath's road to 8 inches

Do you care how long you hold your reps anymore? I’m moving up to 30 minutes and holding for 10 minutes at a time seemingly pretty easily. I know you said you had done 10 minutes before, do you ever go over that? I am doing only one kind of stretch though, as opposed to you needing to rotate to get your fulcrum stretch in. I think I held one rep for 12 minutes today. Just curious about your experience.

Phenomenally informative thread. Congrats on the gains, and grateful you are sharing your experience.

I dont really care so much how long i can hold the set. The minimum for me now is around 5 mins and if my grip is really good i can go for 10 mins or a little more. In my experience when i go over 10 mins i need to release my grip because i find out that i apply high pressure on the glans and maybe i cut the blood circulation. If i am not careful with this the result is a red dot on the glans and its not an ideal situation. So my ideal is around 6-8 mins. I care more about how big is my workout, the total time under tension is more important.

Often as i have said i rotate from a downward stretch to a fulcrum stretch using my wirst or my forearm. My fulcrum stretching is mostly downward(A stretch) and sometimes to the side. I dont release the stretch, i do this rotation with the penis stretched. Although this can be really fatiguing for the hands and the body.

I dont count them, i go with my feeling. Some days i feel that my penis respond great to fulcrums and others does not.

Thank you very much. I am glad that you find it so informative.

Hi Gentlepsychopath. Congratulations on your gains, your experience is inspiring since lately I’ve seen measured gains only from people using device and/or advanced routines, while you seem to only do manual stretching. I have a couple questions if you don’t mind me asking:

1) Did you see any girth improvement as well?
2) How is your EQ?
3) Do you have any little habit or exercise other than stretching and edging, like a little warmup or some jelqing once in a while?

Thank you rocoloco!

I believe most men think that they will gain more with devices. Maybe they see it as the next step in their PE journey and they associate manual stretching with the newbie routine. The most trustworthy before and after pictures of big gains comes from manual stretchers in my opinion. For length manual stretching is king: 1) you dont have to put thousands of hours to make gains like the extender or hanging 2) its time convenient 3) more tension applied smoothly in the whole shaft 4) you can target the tunica in a more effective way with fulcrum stretching.

Good questions:
1) i am sure that i have gained girth, but not so much. I have never take consistent girth measurements. I have gained girth mostly at the base.

2) my EQ comes and goes. Little EQ drops are common when you do pure length work. Its a good sign because it means that the penis loses elasticity and the “repairing” proccess has started. Although i have find the sweetspot not to overtrain. When my EQ is bad and it is not time for a day off, i cut the volume and the intensity of my workout by 50% for the 2 next days . It is really working.

3) i have never jelq, not even once. I have not the time and privacy to learn how to do it and practise. The only form of heat that i am using is sometimes when i stretch during a hot bath.

Great answers thank you. One last thing, did you ever try dynamic stretches? For example the side to side stretch, which is part of big al’s jelq-free routine. I’m asking you because every time I try this exercise or any other dynamic stretch, I obtain an erection within a minute. So I’m curious to know if this happens to other people as well. I exploit this by making the dynamic stretch a “gateway” to jelqing work.

By dynamic stretches you mean Jai stretches? I have tried them when i was a newbie but not for so long and i dont know if they were effective because i was gaining anyway in that time.

Some people gets nice results from Jai stretches and thats fine but i dont recommend them. Thats because its not the force you apply that will lengthen the penis but the time under stretch. Although someone can gain with short duration stretches done at high frequency, but my opinion is that one stretch should last at least 60 seconds.

Big al’s side to side stretch seems like simple stretching to me. The side to side movement is unnecessary and you are right that it can cause an erection. There is no reason to move your penis during the stretch, if you want to target different spots fulcrum stretching is the answer.

As a general rule remember to relax into the stretch and go for longer holds. We try to enlongate a living tissue not a material. Start the stretch with low force and progressively and smoothly increase the force. Then stay at that length and relax.

rate of loading and deformation

When connective tissue is loaded at faster reate, it deform less than when the same tissue is loaded at a slower rate. Furthermore, the CT structure will have a higher ultimate strength (ie, the highest load applied
before failure).

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Great post!

Hi gentlepsycopath,

I’m doing PE for a while now (about 4 months). My BPEL has increased 0.5 inches since I started but my BPFSL is more or less the same. It is 0.5 inches less than my BPEL.

So I did some research and found out that I must target my tunica. This is by manual stretching. Length is my primary goal.

I’m planning to start this routine:

5x 4 min stretches (4 downward 1 straight out)
50-100 wet jelqs to ‘restore the circulation’
10 mins edging to ‘expand to maximum length’

Any thoughts on the routine?

I have done the routine comfortably for two days straight in a row now. PI’s are positive. There is no pain but the EQ is dropping; initially I had a 9/10 EQ but now it’s more like a 7 or 8 at the most. This is a good sign I suppose. The penis is somewhat feels tougher and stretched after the stretching but without any discomfort or pain. Is that a good sign?

Also, could I spread it twice the day? Like 2x 4min stretch in the morning with jelqs
3x 4min stretch in the evening with edging.
Right now I’m doing it together.

Please also let me know the recommended frequency while starting such a routine. Meaning, how many times in a week should I practice the routine.

This. This way has proven to be productive combined with precise heating in my case. With slowly approached relaxation one can reach every bit of elastic potential available. And even beyond.

Hi man your log is truly inspirational. I agree with you the most trustworthy gains are from manual stretchers. Im tired of spending all day in an ads and hours of PE work. Going to start manual stretching now, never done it before!

The one thing I wonder is where to grip? Clamp on mid shaft or just behind glans? I dont want to directly grip the glans I want to have blood trapped in the shaft to give me grip rather than gripping against or on the glans. Please advice on grip!

Great gains! I think your routine is very good. Because length is your goal after some months when you are ready try to increase the total stretching time.

Of course you can spread your routine. My favourite schedule is 5on-2off. You should find what work for you with practise and time.

Little EQ drops are common but if your EQ is bad you should rest. Its a good sign when you cant easily reach 10/10 but if your EQ is 7 or 8 you should take 1 or 2 days off. Also in my experience the EQ should always come back after some days of rest or after a period with EQ drops.

Thanks man, appreciate it.

Yeah thats why i prefer manual stretching. People have lives and its hard to be consistent when you have to put 5-7 hours every day for PE. Also because the force is very low compared to manual stretching you have to reach thousands of hours to make respectable gains. One hour of manual stretching every day can give to most men more length gains that they can imagine.

About your question you should never grip mid shaft. I grip just under my glans. The tension is better transferred to the whole shaft when you grip just under the glans. If you grip mid shaft you target the base of your penis.

You dont want blood trapped in the penis while stretching. The more effective stretch is when you are completely flaccid, the blood provides resistance to the stretching force. Practise the V grip with toilet paper, thats what works for me.

Thanks a lot, seems I was heading the wrong way right away, thanks for steering me on the right course. Mental burn out from so much time for PE is real. I have come to roads end with wearing penis ads now after a year. It didnt give me any more gains than when I extended without it so for me I cant see the use for it except a bigger bulge…