New York Texan's PRP Experiment

Rocco, yes, both into the CC. The PRP along with trimix once a month for a total of 6. Between those ideally trimix every other day.

Igigi, the IGF1-LR is per the Chaim by Stage(I forget remainder of name) who used it as well. From my research this compound is longer lasting in terms of half life. The receptor grade isn’t cheap, but at .20mcg added each time it will stretch (hopefully literally and figuratively). I know Stage chronicles over an inch in girth, with good length too. and he was solely using the Toronto protocol, albeit with his own modifications.

is it a chemical PE so done by a doctor?

I don’t understand how often Trimix should be injected?

Thanks NY. As always, I completely disagree with "bro-science", something that is very prevalent in our American culture and is a problem. People rely on youtube or forums to read, modify, copy. It is different of course when we read real science on forums. Anyways, I wanted to share with you this clinical trial about PRP alone vs. PRP with IGF-1 for patellar tendinitis.

Keep in mind, this is biological IGF-1 extracted from the same blood of the patient. And on a side note, the vast majority of those IGF-1Lr3 and IGF-1Des sold are plain garbage. That user stage might have gotten something better quality, but we dont really know if his results came strictly form the IGF-1Lr3 or combination, but even if these peptides were legit, there is absolutely no reason nor justification to use a peptide of the hormone. The hormone, which is RhIGF-1, is more potent and effective as proven by the existing medication, Increlex available by prescription. There is plenty of peer to peer research about Increlex, not so with those peptides sold for bodybuilding.

Heres the clinical trial about PRP with IGF-1

PRP vs PRP Plus IGF for Patellar Tendinosis - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov

Chemical PE progress report

The guy’s name is Stagestop, and I hope I have properly cut and pasted his 134 page trail/experience above. He chronicles his multi-month journey via Dr. Adams’ patented process (I have no idea how it is patented, but it now apparently is), including IGF-1-LR 3. Igigi, I always appreciate seeing your comments and cautions, but I think this guy’s experience is more than Bro’ science? Yes, sourcing the safe and effective ingredients is key. I read your linked article with interest, and it sounds like concentrated IGF may actually exist in the discarded portion of the blood spun off as part of the PRP process. But, that concentration may also depend on whether one’s body is still producing sufficient IGF to begin with? Not a sure thing for a 60-plus year old such as myself. I have had baseline IGF tests in the past, and have used at various times Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, and similar secretagogues. A few years ago I know they helped cut me down to 185 lbs with a 32" waist. I lost that over a few years after an injury that curtailed my lifting regimen, trying to get it going again, now under 200. 6’ 1" tall.
Stagestop appears to have used small and constant doses of actual HgH, which I am leery of, as I don’t want to shut down natural production. But, his progress reports and answers to many questions are illuminating, I think.

I wish that guy was still around to provide a longer term update, but I think he covered about 2 years?

I took a quick look and he was still responding into pages 127-129 or so. There’s a fairly detailed summary or two by him of his multi-year experiences and conclusions. I think his was about the most detailed an long term “study” I have seen, but did not include PRP.

It was suggested I could link to progress in the Member’s Only section: New York Texan’s another go

I will update there and here as I go now and then.

I have experimented with peptides and hormones for MANY years, and with the help of my doctor. I would personally prefer DES for PE work given its makeup vs LR3. I have used IGF-DES in conjunction with BPC and TB500 for a PE routine. I can certainly vouch for the healing benefits of BPC and TB both as stand alone peptides and in conjunction with the Des. As for the IGF DES, I am not sure at this moment what role it played in my last routine as I have been at plateau for a little while and did not make significant gains last time. Still though I feel it shows more promise for gains than LR3.

I will most likely go back to using IGF DES midway through my current routine to see what can be done.

SIDE NOTE:
There is a lot of talk of the quality and validity if Peptides - especially the IGF’s. There are a couple of companies out there that specialize in testing and they will test your stuff for you for a fee.

Hey NY thank you for posting Stagestop link.

Intersting approach, not new to me to be honest, but his experiment was extremely rudimentary in terms of data. There are no previous measurements, initial stats, BPFSL/BPEL, not daily/weekly progress, no doses, nothing. The purpose of experimenting for our community is to gather the necessary data in order to create some sort of standardization after proving positive outcomes following existing literature. So far with his experiment, there is zero legacy for our community other than his claim of gaining half an inch.

Still, interesting to read. I have never experimented with so many compounds mixed at the same time, but I got great results from PGE-1alone.

I got the third of six PRP treatments today. I added the trimix myself after (20-25 units), along with 20 micrograms of the receptor grade IGF/LR3 (for shorthand). Because I pumped post PRP (pre trimix) I did not pump again post trimix. I am currently sporting a 71/4 inch full erection with 6” girth, so that is encouraging, albeit likely the maximum presently attainable. I may pump again later at low pressure (with heat) once the trimix wears off a bit.
I need to stay in the mindset that this is a marathon, not a sprint. Plan remains to try to use the trimix every other day (+/-), though I may go with tomorrow for back to back days because of the PRP today.
I will go back to check full stats, but I believe I started at almost 7” exactly (a bit more) a few months ago on first measurements. Girth was under 6”.
So, core program is:
-morning low pressure pumping with heat. Now starting in 2” tube for 20 or so minutes, and moving to 2 1/4 inch for another 20 or so.
-go from pump to Size Doctor extender for +/- three hours
-in trimix days, inject 2-25 units, with 20 units IGF/LR3
-non-trimix days, possibly go to Phallosan for a few hours after Size Doctor, but concern is the Glans, will see
-I have also been using TB500/BPC157 blend in fat pad above penis, massaged downward, about 5x week
-I cycle with CJC-1295//ipamorelin before bed most nights (try to take 2 days off a week)

I am also trying to step up my overall fitness regimen. Want to see if I can get back under 190, maybe lose another inch from waist. I was down to a 32” waist a few years ago before hurting myself and falling out of my routine. Not sure 32” is realistic, but am 34” now. But, that’s a different story.

Thanks for the update NY!

Question:

- Did you measure BPEL before PRP day, after PRP day, before pumping or after pumping? Same with girth. Was if after pumping or before? How often are you measuring?

- I might have asked you this before, but how long is each trimix induced erection lasting?

Thanks.

Question:

- Did you measure BPEL before PRP day, after PRP day, before pumping or after pumping? Same with girth. Was if after pumping or before? How often are you measuring?

- I might have asked you this before, but how long is each trimix induced erection lasting?

Igigi, my current measurements are generally post workout, whether PRP days or otherwise. I should measure newer “baseline” conditions as I did at the start (posts in Member section). I am measuring pretty much every day, but not recording here absent some real change. I do plan to continue with periodic updates.
The trimix is 3+/- hours of good effect, but can be easily coaxed to full erection for a period thereafter as well. I am still experimenting with the dosage.

Awesome thanks!

What do you think about trimix safety? I never tried it myself. The doctor one time offered to me, but he said “I need to make sure your resting heart rate is normal because to kill the trimix erection the phenylephrine might rise your heart rate” And just by overthinking all of that my heart rate was through the roof and declined to try it LOL. Been playing for years with PGE-1 anyways. But I have been curious about trimix. How do you compare it to PGE-1 alone?

Igigi, I had never heard the heart issue with the trimix. I will be cautious! But I have yet to need the “remedy” to counter it. I was wondering about just PGE 1, and may see if I can try it. I have read it can have a benefit beyond just the erecting.

What I would like to find is a cost effective urethral suppository (like Muse), but it’s cost prohibitive, and I don’t know whether it would work as well as direct injection. Still wary of long term impact of too many needles in my cock!

Well, to complement your experience with mine, first of all I have interacted with many people who have tried Muse, I would say the ratings for it are very low. It just doesnt work as injectable PGE-1. They say most of it does not get absorbed or it goes systemic and is too expensive.

Second in regards to needles, I have many years of experience with it, not a single problem. Although, in my honest opinion all these possible side effects of injection sites are directly related to overall health and levels of essential nutrients in the diet and lifestyle, something that mainstream medicine has no knowledge about and will never advise the patient. But the ability of the body to repair tissue is 100% directly with the health of that carbon unit. If every single cell is not receiving every day the right amount of essential nutrients it needs, chances are mutation will happen at some point in time.

And last, do not worry about trimix and heart rate my friend. Trimix is not the cause of heart rate elevation, but rather the phenylephrine HCI to kill the erection. I worry that I would need to have it, since I am very sensitive to PGE-1. I tiny microscopic fraction gives me a 20-30 minutes erection. So I have always had the gut feeling that Trimix would be hard to dose for me.

I was just curious if you feel some systemic effect every time you inject it and pass your bloodstream around.

Igigi:
I do sometimes feel a slight flushing-type sensation, but nothing significant. I do more often feel a rush-type sensation in the head of the penis, which subsides quickly as the trimix begins to work.