New York Texan's PRP Experiment

I think that the micro-tears and stretching from PE exercises can create the environment for PRP to be most effective in an otherwise healthy penis. I assumed that this was the reason for the pump being included with the treatment along with the recommended 2x20 min. regimen. In addition, something is added to the plasma to activate the repair agents (I’m using laymen’s terms). More specifically, it is used to trick the body into thinking there is an injury, which I suppose is what triggers the release of growth factors.

Yes, that is the supposed mechanism.

I think you took the line out of the context.
And that’s okey.
What I meant due the whole post, was the population benefitting tremendously from PRP, mentioned above are way more in need of healing than any of us ever pulled the thing for size.

Maybe I did, my bad. I definitely don’t challenge the benefits of PRP, I’ve had the shots as well. Its PRP, and PRP alone, solely for size that I question the efficacy of.

Exactly. Hence the experiment to add to the PRP alone. I mis-stated the additive in another post. I think the add is calcium chloride, which (so the theory goes) tricks the tissue into thinking it needs to be healed, and it also has some type of “sticky” (not very scientific, sorry) properties to help the injected tissue retain it longer before being washed-away. This is actually one discussion in the article I circulated above earlier today. The PGE-1 is to expand, but also help retain the PRP in the CC longer by restricting the outflow.

I am with Kyrpa in the approach of the whole chemical topic in the sense that, we always have to take all these studies and research with a grain of salt, because all of them have been done with the intention to treat, cure, regenerate tissues. Thats it. So these PRP protocols are “based” on studies and research, but in own Kyrpa’s words: What are we going to heal in an already healthy penis?

Remember, we are not trying to heal anything here. We are trying to enhance already healthy tissues, if anything alter the biochemical structure to make it easier to stretch and/or aid the internal smooth muscle to grow quicker.

The purpose of the “activator” on the PRP, is not to trick tissues, it to trick the platelets. By adding that activator, is the platelets who think there is an injury and they release all the growth factors. But those factors are going to do nothing, if theres nothing broken to repair. Those growth factors doesnt mean that they make everything around to grow. No, it doesnt work that way. That is a confusion with semantics. The growth factors all they do is to re-grow or recover a damaged tissue in the surrounding area. A healthy tissue is untouched by a growth factor in the blood platelet.

Now, I am not totally discrediting this approach. Not at all. I believe there has to be an overall enhancement as part of the whole process. For example, compare it to an amateur teenager who start lifting weights. Imagine a kid who lifts weight, eats garbage the whole day and little to no water, compared to another similar kid with a healthy diet rich in essential nutrients plus all the necessary supplementation of creatine, amino acids, multi vitamins, minerals, herbs, protein, etc. The latter will get better performance and overall results than the former kid. Will it be a day and night difference? No. The second kid will get improved results and have a healthier life.

Now in the case of NYTexan, it is nothing new for all of us to know that as we age, our tissues age and therefore our performance. At your age you will certainly see improvement in EQ and even perhaps, you will actually benefit from repair and regrowth of tissues that are already damage as the normal process of aging. In fact we know from several studies that we lose penile size as we age, and PRP might help revert that process by adding all those growth factors in the internal tissues.

My potential approach of this, and I am still carefully reading and digging information, is to use growth factors not included in blood platelets and that can work synergistically with IGF-1 for example. I believe I shared with you guys a study done on PRP plus IGF-1 taken from the patients blood and included in the injection. There is plenty of research on the effects of IGF-1 on tissues causing hyperplasia and for that process, the tissues might require all those growth factors plus others once again, not found in the blood platelet or at least at the right doses. Doses that once were different before puberty as it is instructed in the DNA sequence.

Last PRP was 6/16. Took a break over the weekend for better pursuits…today is trimix day: 18.6-7 cm fully erect, so somewhat more than the 7 1/4 I had been logging. Girth about the same as before (base close to 6”).

> What are we going to heal in an already healthy penis?

We put it under stress and do minor damage with PE, and we trying to get it to heal in its altered state.

Yes, some may do. Is the magnitude of the damage significant enough that we will make any difference with such a healing vehicle?

We wish and so many lifestyle biohackers jump on the snake oil wagon. Giving thousands away just like that.

I do genuinely believe that there need to be more out of the place. Aging related smoothmuscle mass loss and cavervous collagen accumulation being one.

Since we don’t have the histological examinations taken, I can only suggest, that any of the perfectly healthy below mid-age PE user have neither of the symptoms emerging.

The tissue streching per se ignites normal tissue regenaration aka healing responses by high degree.

The above is from first week in June. Now 6/26/21: A little over one week out from PRP number 4. Not doing as regular Trimix for various reasons, but continue the daily low pressure pump, Size Doctor, sometimes Phallosan to follow. Don’t think I will go into Phallosan today due to some glans irritation. But, just finished the SD (3 plus hours, with removal +/- each hour), and also did flaccid girth and BPFSL measures once out of the SD (I used heat while in SD too). So, at end of SD session, over 20cm, around 20.2 or 20.3cm while in the SD. So…using my conversions to inches, this is some growth over the early June update quoted above. The BPFSL is just about the same as above, however, with girth out of the SD at about 5 3/4”. It still interests me that stretching seems to help girth as well.
Overall, I continue to see gains, both erect and stretched/flaccid. Will see what the next week brings! There will be a few Trimix days mixed in.

Trimix day. The above quote was from 6/24, the last Trimix day….today is a good day! I measured multiple times and show as long as 19.5cm….girth still about the same, just under 6”. I had to measure multiple times in case I was screwing up the measure…but sure seems accurate! Even assuming I somehow am over-showing, it’s a clear increase from just 4 days ago. I will do another Trimix in a few days to see if these measurements are replicated. I suppose it could also be that I under-measured on 6/24. Will see.
Pics from today in members section. Ruler is bone pressed, held at +/- 45 degree angle on top.

Raptor had asked about length while in the tube, and the quote above is from 6/8. Yesterday was trimix day. This morning I started with the usual low pressure pump in the 2” and was about to switch to the 2 1/4 inch when I thought “why not check in-tube length….” Again, two measures to make sure, first in inches, right about at 8”! Then took in cm and looks to be 20.5, and I seemed to continue to lengthen (and pack) in the tube. Maybe I was hitting that magic time I have read about “here” where length starts to increase once fully packed. I thought about staying in the 2” but instead kept with the protocol Now in 2 1/4” and will swap out into the Size Doctor in a few more minutes.

Today was a Trimix day. I injected post-low pressure pump, but skipped the Size Doctor stretch due to what may be an area on the glans that wants to form into a blister. Better safe than sorry. Once fully erect, the best measure I could get was 19cm, so not as encouraging as last Tri day, but still overall improvement from baseline at 7” (17.78cm or so). I also approached the day a bit differently, other than skipping the stretch. Instead of doing a fairly quick very low pressure heated pump post injection I allowed the Trimix to take full effect for about an hour. Then I went into the tube, with pressure never higher than around 3. It can really hurt! I think (as I said before) the pain may be the tunica being caused to further strain against the unnatural engorgement, but using very low pressure you can actually find a comfort level of sorts (not for the faint of heart), and I swear you can almost feel the tunica stretch. In any event, the length does not pull up as with an ordinary pump packing, probably because the rigidity is impossible to match normally. Even post a 20 minute low pressure pump the best was about 19cm length. However, the girth was 6”, not “just under” as I had been recording in prior posts. I then went to the rubber rings I use and dry jelqed with them. That hurts about the same as pumping with Trimix at full effect. Then, after a short break, I went into the 2 1/4” tube for about 10 minutes (with heat) and found I could use a little more pressure than when in the 2”. On exit the girth was easily over 6”, and seemingly not just from fluid. Because this larger tube allows more side expansion than length, the length did not improve. But, the 6 1/8” girth was nice.

I did leave out the IGF-1/LR3 and the pain is clearly less than when I had used it too.

My next Tri day will follow the same general protocol in terms of only Tri (no IGF-1/LR3) and waiting to do a post injection initial pump.

If this continues….I hope it does: yesterday was Trimix day. Today the SD measure is 8+”, 20.5 cm….closely matching the in-pump length I saw in one of the above reports. Though I did not see a Trimix erection length increase yesterday from the prior Trimix result, the stretched results are still increasing.

Took a few days off. Today, just the heated pump and Size Doctor then Phallosan. In SD I was still hitting about 20.6cm+/-. BPFSL post Phallosan was 19.6 cm.

Update: Yesterday was a Tri day, although without all of the usual stretching before, etc. Today I just finished two 20 minute +/- heated pump sessions. At end of pump I measured in-tube (at pressure level 5) and showed about 19.6cm. So, not as long as prior in-tube measure. Then out of tube I slow jelq’ed to full erection and measured 19.6cm again! So, the post-pump BPEL essentially matched the in-tube length. That was interesting. I know a measure post-PE may not equal a true permanent gain, but it is a useful measure to me, and I think continues to show promise. No stretching today as I need to leave the house. I need to get back into my daily routine leading up to next Wednesday’s PRP #5.