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New York Texan's PRP Experiment

10/11 hang

I felt as though my hang was looking particularly nice this morning, so off to the ruler and tape! Flaccid girth still 5”, but length was over 6”. This was pre-doing anything, pump or otherwise. Yes, flaccid can literally vary as the wind may blow….But the overall trend continues in the right direction!

Do you think it would be useful to try to get in contact with the researcher of the “35mm x 30mm” gains trial?

Originally Posted by newyorktexan

I felt as though my hang was looking particularly nice this morning, so off to the ruler and tape! Flaccid girth still 5”, but length was over 6”. This was pre-doing anything, pump or otherwise. Yes, flaccid can literally vary as the wind may blow.. But the overall trend continues in the right direction!

Again, impressive progress!

Originally Posted by juniorRomano
Do you think it would be useful to try to get in contact with the researcher of the “35mm x 30mm” gains trial?

You mean that study on the west coast? Can’t hurt, but I suspect it’s not complete yet. Only one way to find out! Go for it.

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
You mean that study on the west coast? Can’t hurt, but I suspect it’s not complete yet. Only one way to find out! Go for it.

I mean the one that inspired you, I think it was made by an indian clinic. Not sure how reliable was the info, but since it was on the Journal of Sexual Medicine, I guess it was true.

I wouldn’t have the slightest idea how to contact those folks. But from what all I have read and experienced, expansion is based on some force that expands the tunica, maybe the septum too. Those are what restrict the size of the Corpus Cavernosa. They are related. Vacuum (pumping) applies an external force. Stretching applies a traction force. PGE-1/similar, however, applies an internal force, and coupled with PRP’s additional volume of blood (at least temporarily) seems like it should be a perfect storm of internal forces. Then adding a more gentle external force while injected with the PGE-1/similar may induce an even greater stretch. I know the pain felt seems to be the tunica straining. Caution is advised.

There have been multiple guys here who have tried variations on this theme. I think a key probably is the regular use of PGE-1/similar between the monthly PRP sessions, but I just couldn’t keep as regular a protocol on that part as I had wanted. But, I have seen results!

November Status

Thought I should check in…

It’s 11/9, so about 8 months into the PRP experiment. I have fallen off the baseline protocol somewhat, in large part due to head blisters from the Size Doctor. So, I am acclimating to a more traditional traction device still. I just don’t think one gets as good a pull, really more like a push. But, I am seeing around an 8” stretched length in it, somewhat under where I had gotten to with the SD. The head attachment (straps) are a pain in the ass, and I am still trying to figure out comfort and slippage minimization.

I am presently (as I type) under a trimix-induced erection. Again, I still think if one can do this every other day, with GENTLE heated pumping, the tunica is going to stretch. Historically (at least since March) what I was seeing were good trimix results, but that the following day showed stretched increases in the SD. I surmise this was/is due to the trimix expansion to the maximum. There will be pain, so be careful, but I conclude the pain is the tunica stressing beyond its prior limits. Just like pumping may attempt to stress the tunica via external vacuum, the trimix allows maximum internal expansion. Combine the two carefully and it stands to reason that one may see results.

I showed just under the 19.5cm I had seemed to be hitting earlier (I saw some in excess) for a full BPEL. The girth is around 6” at base, just under that at mid.

Results as of today are about the same as a few posts ago. Good gains, but potentially stalling. Would I have achieved without the PRP experiment? I will never know, but I do plan to continue the path I am following for protocol, and may be mixing in more of a heat under stress program as under the Kyrpa protocol with US, or maybe the 5.5 Squared method. I am seemingly within reach of the 8x6 goal. Though I suspect when/if I get there, I will be greedy for more….

I can confirm the PRP does improve skin and overall condition of the penis. And at least for the short term the erection quality is astounding. I do think quality shockwave treatments on combination can help EQ (for we older guys). But, the key is getting the actually soundwave type, not the piston strike type.

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Thought I should check in…
It’s 11/9, so about 8 months into the PRP experiment. I have fallen off the baseline protocol somewhat, in large part due to head blisters from the Size Doctor. So, I am acclimating to a more traditional traction device still. …


I think I’ve asked before. Do/can you tape your glans when using the size doctor?

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I am presently (as I type) under a trimix-induced erection. Again, I still think if one can do this every other day, with GENTLE heated pumping, the tunica is going to stretch. Historically (at least since March) what I was seeing were good trimix results, but that the following day showed stretched increases in the SD. I surmise this was/is due to the trimix expansion to the maximum. There will be pain, so be careful, but I conclude the pain is the tunica stressing beyond its prior limits. Just like pumping may attempt to stress the tunica via external vacuum, the trimix allows maximum internal expansion. Combine the two carefully and it stands to reason that one may see results.

I’ve been playing around with the idea of viagra inducted erections with a cock ring and 30 mins of my heating pad while edging. If I went down this path I suspect that I’d need tirmix to induce the erection. As you said, stress the tunica under heat.

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I am seemingly within reach of the 8x6 goal. Though I suspect when/if I get there, I will be greedy for more….
I can confirm the PRP does improve skin and overall condition of the penis. And at least for the short term the erection quality is astounding. I do think quality shockwave treatments on combination can help EQ (for we older guys). But, the key is getting the actually soundwave type, not the piston strike type.

I’m about to start a short decon. I’ll have about 4 weeks of hang time in Dec to make a run for that last centimeter that may make a BPEL > 8” possible. But of course we will have to wait and see if my commitment holds. Of course, if I did hit a chemmed 8”, then I’d need to get a easy/no chem 8”, then i’d be 1 or 2 cycles from 9” and so it goes…..


BPEL: 5.5" --> 7.9" ; BPFSL: ~5.6" --> 8.5"

Progress log summary: Hanging with FIRe

"Going hard, fast and heavy is all against the scientific knowledge of tissue expansion or elongation." - Kyrpa

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
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I can confirm the PRP does improve skin and overall condition of the penis. And at least for the short term the erection quality is astounding. I do think quality shockwave treatments on combination can help EQ (for we older guys). But, the key is getting the actually soundwave type, not the piston strike type.


I paid a doctor big bucks for the name brand eswt (gainswave) treatments, then I bought my own chinese eswt unit which cost about the same as 3 gainswave treatments. Over 3 years later and around 100 self treatments my chinese unit is still going strong and is an effective tool for combating ED. Why would anyone waste money going to a doctor for eswt treatments when it is easy and extremely inexpensive doing it yourself?

Even if you think the chinese units are not as effective as the high end units the doctor’s office has, just add another treatment to even it up.

But one foundational truth we have learned from our PE efforts, every dick is different and what works for one may not work for another.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
I paid a doctor big bucks for the name brand eswt (gainswave) treatments, then I bought my own chinese eswt unit which cost about the same as 3 gainswave treatments. Over 3 years later and around 100 self treatments my chinese unit is still going strong and is an effective tool for combating ED. Why would anyone waste money going to a doctor for eswt treatments when it is easy and extremely inexpensive doing it yourself?

Even if you think the chinese units are not as effective as the high end units the doctor’s office has, just add another treatment to even it up.

But one foundational truth we have learned from our PE efforts, every dick is different and what works for one may not work for another.

Were you able to actually find a unit that emits the sound wave-type of shockwaves (like the gainswave units)? I have a Chinese unit that cost quite a bit, but it’s one of the pneumatic piston types (like the “Rocket” device, etc). Both cause a “shockwave” as I understand, but the one that does so via soundwaves is on more of a cellular level (as I understand from way too much research). What unit do you have?

Originally Posted by 5.5Squared
I think I’ve asked before. Do/can you tape your glans when using the size doctor?

I’ve been playing around with the idea of viagra inducted erections with a cock ring and 30 mins of my heating pad while edging. If I went down this path I suspect that I’d need tirmix to induce the erection. As you said, stress the tunica under heat.

I’m about to start a short decon. I’ll have about 4 weeks of hang time in Dec to make a run for that last centimeter that may make a BPEL > 8” possible. But of course we will have to wait and see if my commitment holds. Of course, if I did hit a chemmed 8”, then I’d need to get a easy/no chem 8”, then i’d be 1 or 2 cycles from 9” and so it goes…..

Yes, I was taping AND using a glans cap (big toe cap). I am sure it was my own fault the last time. I had developed small raises that indicate baby blisters, didn’t wait long enough and then likely went too long and too much suction under tension and got the nasty one I chronicled. I think once you’ve had one, you are more prone as well. If I know I won’t be seeing my paramour for an extended period I may get back to the SD, and with more care. But I am not going to jeopardize time for putting it to use… :)

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Were you able to actually find a unit that emits the sound wave-type of shockwaves (like the gainswave units)? I have a Chinese unit that cost quite a bit, but it’s one of the pneumatic piston types (like the “Rocket” device, etc). Both cause a “shockwave” as I understand, but the one that does so via soundwaves is on more of a cellular level (as I understand from way too much research). What unit do you have?

Mine is a Lingmei SW10 from Alibaba, which is the standard chinese piston type. They all produce shockwaves, the difference is in the quality of the shockwave produced as you noted. I’m not saying my $1200 chinese piston type eswt machine is as good as the $30,000 german units many doctors use. I am suggesting that by increasing the number of treatments you can get close to the same results, at a fraction of the cost. My self treatment of 100 procedures would have cost $50,000 at my gainswave doctor. This is my experience; others may differ.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Yes, I was taping AND using a glans cap (big toe cap). I am sure it was my own fault the last time. I had developed small raises that indicate baby blisters, didn’t wait long enough and then likely went too long and too much suction under tension and got the nasty one I chronicled. I think once you’ve had one, you are more prone as well. If I know I won’t be seeing my paramour for an extended period I may get back to the SD, and with more care. But I am not going to jeopardize time for putting it to use… :)

Pro tip. Cover those baby raises with a piece of gorilla tape then tape regularly.


BPEL: 5.5" --> 7.9" ; BPFSL: ~5.6" --> 8.5"

Progress log summary: Hanging with FIRe

"Going hard, fast and heavy is all against the scientific knowledge of tissue expansion or elongation." - Kyrpa

Originally Posted by 5.5Squared
Pro tip. Cover those baby raises with a piece of gorilla tape then tape regularly.

I know Igigi swore by that tape. It just seems like it should tear the skin right off! But, I will give it a shot.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
Mine is a Lingmei SW10 from Alibaba, which is the standard chinese piston type. They all produce shockwaves, the difference is in the quality of the shockwave produced as you noted. I’m not saying my $1200 chinese piston type eswt machine is as good as the $30,000 german units many doctors use. I am suggesting that by increasing the number of treatments you can get close to the same results, at a fraction of the cost. My self treatment of 100 procedures would have cost $50,000 at my gainswave doctor. This is my experience; others may differ.

Not questioning whether that type works. I think it does, just not to the level, maybe depth of the “pro” units that generate deeply penetrating sound waves, versus surface strikes. I agree they are cost prohibitive for treatments by docs or to buy your own (if it could even be done).

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