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New York Texan's PRP Experiment

Thanks for sharing. What settings do you find most effective?

Originally Posted by 32quarters
I paid a doctor big bucks for the name brand eswt (gainswave) treatments, then I bought my own chinese eswt unit which cost about the same as 3 gainswave treatments. Over 3 years later and around 100 self treatments my chinese unit is still going strong and is an effective tool for combating ED. Why would anyone waste money going to a doctor for eswt treatments when it is easy and extremely inexpensive doing it yourself?

Even if you think the chinese units are not as effective as the high end units the doctor’s office has, just add another treatment to even it up.

But one foundational truth we have learned from our PE efforts, every dick is different and what works for one may not work for another.

I have found that 70mj and 12 hz (or lower) works well for me. I am still testing wand placement, but am leaning towards 3 on each side of the penis and then each crura, with minimum 250 pulses each location.

One potential knock on these chinese units is that their depth of penetration of the shock wave is not as great as the high end units. One article I found discussed the comparison and while admitting that getting definitive results between units is difficult, they reached the conclusion that the shock wave of the low end units had a quality signal at 1.5 cm, vs 2.5 cm or more for the high end units. By treating both sides of my penis I feel I am getting a good coverage even with the potentially less penetration of the shock wave.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
I have found that 70mj and 12 hz (or lower) works well for me. I am still testing wand placement, but am leaning towards 3 on each side of the penis and then each crura, with minimum 250 pulses each location.

One potential knock on these chinese units is that their depth of penetration of the shock wave is not as great as the high end units. One article I found discussed the comparison and while admitting that getting definitive results between units is difficult, they reached the conclusion that the shock wave of the low end units had a quality signal at 1.5 cm, vs 2.5 cm or more for the high end units. By treating both sides of my penis I feel I am getting a good coverage even with the potentially less penetration of the shock wave.

Two Days Post Tri

Per an earlier post I used the Trimix 11/9 to get a maximum erection for measure and to push gains. I still think a more regular use has benefits, along with other protocols.

I had been lamenting the apparent lesser stretch I was getting from a more standard traction device versus the SD. I outlined in the members’ section how it occurred to me that I now should be measuring to the bottom of the coronal ridge, rather than top/end of head, because a strap connection has the effect of compressing the head, while the SD expands it (a very nice feature). I had been able to measure under 7” to the ridge when I last measured while in traction…today 7”-plus. I also used the cm measure and show 18cm….a good thing! I will try to use this measure (“BOR” or bottom of ridge) to track progress via this type of device. While the full measure to the tip is 8” +/-, that is a compressed head, and I know my actual head length is well over 1 1/2”. May be back on track!

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Per an earlier post I used the Trimix 11/9 to get a maximum erection for measure and to push gains. I still think a more regular use has benefits, along with other protocols.
I had been lamenting the apparent lesser stretch I was getting from a more standard traction device versus the SD. I outlined in the members’ section how it occurred to me that I now should be measuring to the bottom of the coronal ridge, rather than top/end of head, because a strap connection has the effect of compressing the head, while the SD expands it (a very nice feature). I had been able to measure under 7” to the ridge when I last measured while in traction…today 7”-plus. I also used the cm measure and show 18cm….a good thing! I will try to use this measure (“BOR” or bottom of ridge) to track progress via this type of device. While the full measure to the tip is 8” +/-, that is a compressed head, and I know my actual head length is well over 1 1/2”. May be back on track!

Impressive gains man!

By the way how did you manage to get a prescription for trimix? My doc refuses to prescribe me that, he rather prescribes me caverject.
Also, how many hours does your erection last?

Originally Posted by fdersby8
Impressive gains man!

By the way how did you manage to get a prescription for trimix? My doc refuses to prescribe me that, he rather prescribes me caverject.
Also, how many hours does your erection last?

Thanks! I am surprised he won’t Rx Trimix. Perhaps try to locate a men’s clinic as an alternative source? They specialize in prescribing such things, among other assistance. I have never used Caverject, and I would presume it can accomplish much the same result, but is, I suspect far more expensive as a name brand drug. You can titrate dosage to experiment to a hive longer or shorter affect, but I squally shoot for at least 3 hours of very hard, with following hours that vary. What I may do, depending on time on hand, is add a rubber ring to base to trap blood to fully engorge again, remove, repeat, etc. along with the low pressure pump I mentioned.

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Thanks! I am surprised he won’t Rx Trimix. Perhaps try to locate a men’s clinic as an alternative source? They specialize in prescribing such things, among other assistance. I have never used Caverject, and I would presume it can accomplish much the same result, but is, I suspect far more expensive as a name brand drug. You can titrate dosage to experiment to a hive longer or shorter affect, but I squally shoot for at least 3 hours of very hard, with following hours that vary. What I may do, depending on time on hand, is add a rubber ring to base to trap blood to fully engorge again, remove, repeat, etc. along with the low pressure pump I mentioned.

NYT,

Be careful and good luck. I think this may be a fruitful path. I look forward to your results.


BPEL: 5.5" --> 7.9" ; BPFSL: ~5.6" --> 8.5"

Progress log summary: Hanging with FIRe

"Going hard, fast and heavy is all against the scientific knowledge of tissue expansion or elongation." - Kyrpa

I have often wondered if trimix can cause fibrosis and does one need to increase the dosage after long term usage?

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Thanks! I am surprised he won’t Rx Trimix. Perhaps try to locate a men’s clinic as an alternative source? They specialize in prescribing such things, among other assistance. I have never used Caverject, and I would presume it can accomplish much the same result, but is, I suspect far more expensive as a name brand drug. You can titrate dosage to experiment to a hive longer or shorter affect, but I squally shoot for at least 3 hours of very hard, with following hours that vary. What I may do, depending on time on hand, is add a rubber ring to base to trap blood to fully engorge again, remove, repeat, etc. along with the low pressure pump I mentioned.

Originally Posted by Azmike
I have often wondered if trimix can cause fibrosis and does one need to increase the dosage after long term usage?

I think there is a danger of having to increase dosage over time. As for fibrosis, I think the true danger lies in poor injection placement and practice, resulting in scarring of the CC. Be sure you know what you’re doing, and consider an auto injector as well to remove some of the “operator error.” Read up on use and possible side effects, as there are many articles to find.

11/21

21.2 cm to tip while in stretcher. 18.4 cm to “BOR”. Heated pump, stretch, some with heat, shortened heated pump in narrow tube, back in stretcher under heat. Seems to be some gains still.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
I have found that 70mj and 12 hz (or lower) works well for me. I am still testing wand placement, but am leaning towards 3 on each side of the penis and then each crura, with minimum 250 pulses each location.

One potential knock on these chinese units is that their depth of penetration of the shock wave is not as great as the high end units. One article I found discussed the comparison and while admitting that getting definitive results between units is difficult, they reached the conclusion that the shock wave of the low end units had a quality signal at 1.5 cm, vs 2.5 cm or more for the high end units. By treating both sides of my penis I feel I am getting a good coverage even with the potentially less penetration of the shock wave.

Another thing with the chinese electromecanical type SW machines is related to the frequency used.

Both the quality of the wave and the energy level produced Is at its best at the lowest frequency possible.
Going worse quickly as the frequency Is increased.

So we need to spend more time on the treatment than with best of the field professional equipment.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

11/27

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
21.2 cm to tip while in stretcher. 18.4 cm to “BOR”. Heated pump, stretch, some with heat, shortened heated pump in narrow tube, back in stretcher under heat. Seems to be some gains still.

Today (11/27) is close to the same in total length, but at least 18.5cm BOR. Same general effort as above from 11/21.

12/19

I have been fairly busy over the last month…but have been fairly consistent at least with heated pumps and stretching (via the rod ADS). Measured a short while ago, show a bone pressed 21.5+ cm in stretcher! 19 cm BOR….Not sure this has translated to erect lengths yet, but will need to check! Merry Christmas to me!

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
I have been fairly busy over the last month…but have been fairly consistent at least with heated pumps and stretching (via the rod ADS). Measured a short while ago, show a bone pressed 21.5+ cm in stretcher! 19 cm BOR….Not sure this has translated to erect lengths yet, but will need to check! Merry Christmas to me!

Took a while to check back in! I am still fairly consistent with the morning heated pump, with breaks for gentle jelqs, sometimes up to an hour total or so. Then, I try to get into the ADS for a stretch, at least for a cool down period, though I sometimes continue with heat. Did a pretty heavy work out this morning, and checked on BPEL: still at +/-19.5 cm, just under 6” girth. But, the veins are getting more prominent I think. Most important is that I had a couple day get away with my paramour last Sunday to Tuesday…and heard the magic “you feel so big”…and that is what it’s all about. After 2 1/2 days of pretty constant screwing I am ready for a rest! My sorry now 63 year old self is not what it used to be!

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
BPEL: still at +/-19.5 cm, just under 6” girth.
My sorry now 63 year old self is not what it used to be!


Why be sorry?

You are working on improving yourself, as long as you are healthy, age is just a number ma Man. You are 0.5cm away from 20cm! Keep up the grind!

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