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Found the link to the study.
Interesting that the only search results for penile length and vitamin d3 are ln the PE boards. I can’t find any informarion on this study being peer reviewed or replicated or acted upon.
Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG
Current: 7.75” BPEL; 7.25” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.
Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.
That all 14 members of the study survived for 3 months and others were okay for 6, then we can assume the odds of death if you are careful aren’t overly high or there would have been at least one death.
Although the odds of death may not be overly high, isn’t extending your dong using methods that may involve any possibility of death a bit extreme? Also, a study involving only 14 participants may not pick up even quite common negative effects that might show up in a larger study size.
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Progress report:
Today was trimix day. Morning low pressure pump, then ADS/Size Doctor extender.
Then trimix.
Once again at 71/4” fully tumescent. So, a steady 1/4” since first baseline measure around March 15. Girth has some increase, about 5 3/4” today.
Although the odds of death may not be overly high, isn’t extending your dong using methods that may involve any possibility of death a bit extreme? Also, a study involving only 14 participants may not pick up even quite common negative effects that might show up in a larger study size.
Have cursory Google and you will see it is by no means the only study that has used such daily doses of D3 and found no harm.
I am not underplaying the risks, I am not overplaying the risks.
There IS a risk for sure, that risk depends on the person, but is significantly mitigated by k2 and magnesium (take a bioavailible form in a decent dose).
And the risk is majorly mitigated by running tests on blood-work for Calcium and Vit D levels and only running it for 3 months then stopping.
Also if overweight, if deprived of sunlight then you should be less likely to experience overdose due to a low starting level, and overweight people have a harder time absorbing vitamin D3.
Now I did come across a more highly bioavailable form of D3 and if that one were taken you would want to cut the dosage in half IMO to be safe, but it is too expensive, better to get some from Pipingrock for next to nothing.
~1997 age 18 I was 4.7" BPEL and somehow grew either because I wasn't done growing and or some PE work to a bit under 6 inches without measuring or noticing progress at the time. Girth has always been about 6 inches but is slowly getting larger 6.2" at widest
Current BPEL after a little work is 6.2" also, Bone pressed stretched flaccid 6.5" Will update with gains.
NYTX, I think your process might be flawed.
PRP is blood which has had red blood cells removed, white blood cells removed and platelet poor plasma removed.
I believe that the injections should firstly be in the meat of the penis not into a cavern, but realistically I question how much this can be controlled except the the injections into the head, and even then.
But the corpus cavernous is a mess of holes, and if the injection dumps the PRP into a hole, it is going to have reduced utility.
The only think keeping it from being useless in such a circumstance is if the penis isn’t engorged with blood, but that is just what you are doing.
So what I suggest is that the injections only be plunged when there is resistance indicating it is going into flesh.
But moreover I think that there is no advantage of the Boner.
I think the best option is to avoid an erection for a while (say an hour or 3) while using an ADS and then use a vacuum pump.
The vacuum pump is basically priapism extreme on demand anyway (you can pump strong enough that the pressure difference will wreck your penis if you so wish), there is no advantage of adding more pressure on the penis side when it just means you can’t pump to the same level with the same safety (the harder the boner, the less safe any given partial vacuum is.
~1997 age 18 I was 4.7" BPEL and somehow grew either because I wasn't done growing and or some PE work to a bit under 6 inches without measuring or noticing progress at the time. Girth has always been about 6 inches but is slowly getting larger 6.2" at widest
Current BPEL after a little work is 6.2" also, Bone pressed stretched flaccid 6.5" Will update with gains.
In reply to the multiple posts by new member Penislongerer that have hijacked my progress log, and with all due respect, please begin your own thread.
Your multiple posts here (and elsewhere) in my estimation have often urged members, including myself, to take undue risks based on questionable studies, but more so out of a perceived desire to use others as a type of test subject. Your immediate post above in particular also compels this response.
I question your knowledge of basic penis anatomy. By suggesting that a process (PRP) that has been applied and studied for well over a decade has been misapplied all along, and that injections should instead be into the penile “meat” (which I interpret to refer to the head and the corpus spongiosum), you show a basic misunderstanding of that anatomy. I will not get into the well-known details, but you may do that research yourself. I know from your other posts that you intend to obtain the medical equipment necessary to self-perform PRP preparation and injections, and I welcome reading about your results and experiences, regardless of where you inject. I will adhere to the known science and medical facts. I do urge the utmost caution.
I know you are new to this board, but please also do not assume others here are neophytes in what we are exploring. I personally (along with many others) have extensively read and studied PRP and related methods and procedures, along with multiple studies. Yes, your Vitamin D posts are interesting to read, but for all the reasons stated in many replies by others, I respectfully decline. I was particularly concerned by your wanton suggestion that I simply inject Vitamin D into my penis. I suspect you could have found someone willing to do so, with the risks of embolism that I raised. If you choose to partake in that protocol, please keep us posted with regular updates, measurements, and photographic proof.
I am already spending too much mental capital on this. To reiterate, please start your own thread to explore your various suggestions, and I would read with interest any log you may keep on your own progress once you are up and running with your home-brew PRP.
Respectfully, NYT.
In reply to the multiple posts by new member Penislongerer that have hijacked my progress log, and with all due respect, please begin your own thread.
Your multiple posts here (and elsewhere) in my estimation have often urged members, including myself, to take undue risks based on questionable studies, but more so out of a perceived desire to use others as a type of test subject. Your immediate post above in particular also compels this response.
I question your knowledge of basic penis anatomy. By suggesting that a process (PRP) that has been applied and studied for well over a decade has been misapplied all along, and that injections should instead be into the penile “meat” (which I interpret to refer to the head and the corpus spongiosum), you show a basic misunderstanding of that anatomy. I will not get into the well-known details, but you may do that research yourself.
I wasn’t trying to use others as test subject, just sharing what I have come across with abundant warning that I’m not suggesting people try these things when it comes to the D3 thing especially.
However if I misunderstand the anatomy of the penis then I’d appreciate any clarification especially since I plan to inject myself.
My understanding of the penis is that the shaft has skin, then maybe a later of muscle (unsure) then the Tunica and then a cavernous spongy (corpus spongiosum) material (plus blood vessels and urethra).
Now I don’t pretend to know the details of how different doctor gauge depth to inject, but I have seen a few videos of it on youtube and they appear to be going deep enough to be pumping it into the corpus spongiosum and I assume without care this is broadly similar to injecting something into a kitchen sponge and then putting water in the sponge.
What I am suggesting is that it might be possible (and maybe doctors sometimes do do this, I don’t know) inject into some of the structures more than the holes, such that the injection won’t become immediately diluted with blood.
I might be completely up the spout, just trying to grasp this, if there is a how to do P-shot manual I don’t know it.
If you can clarify any of this (maybe on my own thread titled “Length not girth, I want to be longer” I’d appreciate it.
I know from your other posts that you intend to obtain the medical equipment necessary to self-perform PRP preparation and injections, and I welcome reading about your results and experiences, regardless of where you inject. I will adhere to the known science and medical facts. I do urge the utmost caution.
I know you are new to this board, but please also do not assume others here are neophytes in what we are exploring. I personally (along with many others) have extensively read and studied PRP and related methods and procedures, along with multiple studies. Yes, your Vitamin D posts are interesting to read, but for all the reasons stated in many replies by others, I respectfully decline. I was particularly concerned by your wanton suggestion that I simply inject Vitamin D into my penis. I suspect you could have found someone willing to do so, with the risks of embolism that I raised. If you choose to partake in that protocol, please keep us posted with regular updates, measurements, and photographic proof.
I am already spending too much mental capital on this. To reiterate, please start your own thread to explore your various suggestions, and I would read with interest any log you may keep on your own progress once you are up and running with your home-brew PRP.Respectfully, NYT.
Sorry for the thread hijacking, just got carried away.
But if you are willing to share any knowledge you have on PRP with me, I’d be appreciate it, I didn’t think you had studied it that in depth.
Update, just checked p-shot diagrams and it is into the spongy part.
This might be best for improving erection quality, but for growth of the penis structure it might not be best is my take.
And immediately diluting it with blood I am sure would be counterproductive.
Update2 The corpun spongyism is the lower tube apparently, the left and right tubes are the corpus coverosa which is where I was mainly thinking of injecting + glans.
~1997 age 18 I was 4.7" BPEL and somehow grew either because I wasn't done growing and or some PE work to a bit under 6 inches without measuring or noticing progress at the time. Girth has always been about 6 inches but is slowly getting larger 6.2" at widest
Current BPEL after a little work is 6.2" also, Bone pressed stretched flaccid 6.5" Will update with gains.
Trimix day, post pump routine and stretch.
18.5 cm (more precise) at full tumescence
Don’t have a metric tape, but still 5 3/4 midshaft, at base over 6, was happy to see that!
Non-trimix day.
Protocol of heated low pressure pumping, minimum three hour Size Doctor extender, but with infrared heating pad. Measured in device at 19.5 cm bone pressed. What’s interesting is that girth is remarkable when device is removed. It stays almost as though just pumped, at 5 3/4 inches. I have noticed that stretching does seem to actually encourage girth as well.
Hey newyorktexan,
Have you been tracking you length inside the tube. Im curious your gains there in relation to your other gains.
Hey newyorktexan,Have you been tracking you length inside the tube. Im curious your gains there in relation to your other gains.
Raptor, not really. I will make a point to check. In the tube I am focusing primarily on girth, while letting the extender do the work on length. Once packed, or nearly so in the 2” (it doesn’t take very long under heat and 3-4 inHg) I go to the 2.25” and I suspect the focus then hits the girth anyway.
Good point, I didn’t think to ask about your methodology there.
Hey newyorktexan,Have you been tracking you length inside the tube. Im curious your gains there in relation to your other gains.
Raptor:
I made a point to check today. I hit 7 1/4” in tube (the 2”). That approximates what I can see on BPEL lately, but less than the 19.6 to 19.7cm I have been getting while extended in the Size Doctor.
19 cm…best yet for BPEL! Girth at base is 6”, though that may be on higher side due to pump pre-trimix and stretch, with short pump once injected too. Length, however, is what it is.
I took a few days easy, and may skip trimix until next Wednesday’s next PRP session (number 4 of 6). The self-injected trimix is resulting in more pain than usual, and I may drop the IGF-1/LR3 from the mix. It could be a culprit.
But, I continue a basic protocol of low pressure pump with heat, then Size Doctor for three hours (with breaks every hour, but with heat too). I just measured in the SD: 7 7/8”…I did the measure both ways (with tape and ruler). If I placed the ruler just slightly higher, I was well over 8”, but I suspect the measure tighter to the top of the base is a more accurate measure? I will need to read other posts on measuring.
I am now in the Phallosan for a while, but did a BPSL measure first and using cm, hit 19.6 stretched.
The stretched length in the SD appears to be regularly increasing, as does BPSL by hand. I will post updated erect measures over the next few weeks, but if erect followed flaccid stretched, I am on the right track.