Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold

My EQ has been rising steadily for the last 4 months. However, most successful clampers will attribute a rising EQ to the effectiveness of clamping. Also, I haven’t done a routine since my last clamping episode where I bled a little bit. I suspect despite the show of blood that the session was highly effective.

However the reason I tribute the success of my EQ to the subliminal is because most of my erection problems are mental period comfort with being erect, embarrassment with showing in my clothes, other mental stumbling blocks that are the result of a troubled childhood and various kinds of abuse. My latest subliminal I aimed at targeting mostly my mindset because physically there is nothing wrong with my penis or reproductive system. By mentally being more comfortable with the concept of being erect nocturnal erections have become far more frequent where they simply didn’t exist before.

So I would split the difference with saying my clamping experiments and the subliminal are resulting in EQ that I’ve never seen before. This is my personal opinion.

Makes sense TG. Thanks.

I always found the concept of chasing “penis fatigue” to be dangerous. Everyone can’t feel it. Or tell when it’s happening to them. I’ve seldom felt it and it’s difficult for me to play with.

I got fatigue here: Lost Round #6: The useful element

But, using this hose clamp I get a lasting warm and worked feeling. Similar to a muscle stretched at a chiropractor. It’s rather interesting for me to note as I experience record breaking numbers of erections and extreme levels of erection quality.

I am making a note here about it. This trend needs to be tracked.

I agree, I certainly can throw a ton of work at my cock and it just keeps taking it with positive PI’s. Typically I need to impose rest regardless of continued positive PI’s.

I haven’t done girth work for some time, but if I am going to feel worked, typically it’s going to come from expansion based routines, if at all.

This comes with experience. Doing it by feel removes the control and science aspects the can tweak. A strong cock day doesn’t dictate long term tissue rebuilding and generation of new tissue.

Wise to stick to your schedule. I am liberal with my rest days as I run extreme intensities and it would be unwise to ignore the consequences. Additionally, weak EQ or uncooperative cock days get auto rest.

I find it works best for me at any rate.

I’m thinking pump expansion is tricky. As is any expansion but pumping gives you some incredible potent yet controllable forces.

Edema is the enemy but greater capacity to stretch is the goal and commonly is confused for edema. I am going to try my 2.25” tube and see if I pack it at all. Or if it’s still halfway up.

Theory is, since I couldn’t pack it before, that even packing it with edema would indicate some level of progress. So I’m curious.

I’m not stoked about edema prospects. But I am excited about some permanent change in capacity.

Today, after this session: Round 19 (55): Expansion patterns trending up I came to a turning point.

Exactly 10 months ago, I started the PE4F log and I was on the rudimentary track of PE4F. After this, a user named RomeoPlus gave me some tips and insights that bore fruit as far as the usage of this type of pumping setup. I followed his ghost track after swapping theory points with him in the thread that I found quite useful. Now, I’ve reached the turning point I targeted originally based on some other pumping theory and stories.

I have packed a tube I previously could not. And now I can only expand lengthwise in it. This was my target. Now that it has happened I am posed with two options.

Plan A

First option is the original plan. Work with this tube for probably 6 more months. See if it can pull my penis straight and continue to work my curvature out. If this is the case, looking at the clamping effect I would need to cut it out so that the pump negative forces have a better chance of pulling on my malformed CC and packing the tube that way versus packing the tube with some boosted temporary gains from clamping. I am prepared for that idea. It dovetails into my new project for 2019 where I want to do Vacuum Hanging with an LG hanger that I’m going to purchase very soon. i am leaning towards this option. Aesthetically it is the best option since length and curve correction have always been the most passionate and valuable parts of PE for me.

Plan B

Second option is the girth explosion plan. I’ve packed this tube. Move to the next. Keep working clamping aggressively and keep a steady hand on the pumping so that I can continue to prompt more girth gains. I -cannot- get any thicker at this point. The 2” tube has a circumference of 6.28” inside. So me coming out of the tube at 6.29” is the extent of what it will give me. Period. And I like the sensation and look of more girth but usually I’m more concerned with girth when I’m dating or fucking around. I am doing neither right now so it isn’t priority one.

The Quandary

I do not like the idea of using a perfectly good method to gain girth and basically discarding its potential to use it as a boost for length only. I like working on both if there’s potential and ability to work both. That isn’t often the case but here, it certainly can be. The 2” cylinder is so tight I felt the vaseline boiling on the side left of my glans where it packs against the tube. I literally cannot expand laterally any further and my girth gains WILL stop if I don’t go for the 2.25” tube next. I don’t want girth gains to stop now that I have them decoded. It simply is not a move I think is wise. Girth is very hard to get and the fact that I’m literally -controlling- and -limiting- my girth progress is innately upsetting. I do not like this idea. Not one bit.

Working more girth and moving up a tube size does basically mean I’m discarding curve correction for the time being. Until I pack the next tube. Splitting the difference would be going with Plan B but then, after I spend 10 more months packing that tube to capacity stopping the girth train and going for curve correction with the tighter tube (after growing into it and making it snug).

Other Thoughts

In 2019 I’m technically on the length train. Researching and running a vacuum hanger does mean that length is a goal and priority. Pumping in the 2” tube theoretically may be of more use than hopping the train to Girth City but I have to weigh running girth and length for an entire year. I do not think that it will affect length progress negatively compared to not pumping. I do think girth pumping will not boost length as much as snug tube length pumping will, however.

But, I’m only human. I’m a selfish male. Bigger is better and my research has given me enough insight that I can generate girth without a ton of effort, just time and attention, and I am loathe to give that up until I reach truly titanic proportions because part of me is still after more in that reflexive way that makes it nearly impossible for anyone to quit PE. I’ll be weighing it these next couple months as the PE4F log draws closer to its own conclusion.

I have the idea that Plan B is the path to take but that Plan A has merit worth exploring I need to sit back and decide if length and correction matter more than the concept of truly behemoth girth at will. It’s just another year of time. I simply need to plan it.

Plan C.

Do both A and B.

Working Plan B until the tub is tight enough for Plan A’s method of attack is something I considered. It’s definitely an idea.

Technically both can’t be attempted with any efficiency and efficacy.

TG, I noticed that you have used varying exercises/methods to work on straightening. Have you experimented with bending beyond straight in the opposite direction of your curve and holding that tension for extended periods of time while edging?

Sorry if this question has been addressed by you already in one way or another.

I may not have directly stated it but once. Your question is valid so I’ll post for posterity.

In my time with Big Al my second favorite exercise that yielded some length but little to no curve reduction was the Erect Bend. I do not speak much on it as Erect Bends are very intense and I saw so little benefit i was not comfortable recommending them for straightening or length, which was it’s original purpose.

I still do idly do a bend or two while edging. Nothing notable or regular. I would definitely not credit it for any reduction of my curve even still.

Got it. Thank you.

So I would take the course that most adequately allows you to focus the most energy on correcting curvature. Only because I know that this is something that is important to you. As far as measurements go you are currently a monster, so you can always come back to being a bigger monster.

I’m going to research and test my 2.25” tube after patching and calibrating it again. That is due in 3 days. So my Sunday results will show if my theories are going to bear fruit as expected.

And I’ll contemplate it heavily because I only noticed what was going on because I had started looking forward to more girth. So my mind is split on my desires.

Hey,

if I would be your in your place I would go for sheer volume and mass.
I would keep the clamping (or compression/constriction exercises) for sure and use the core expansion too grow the tissues in the pump. You definitely proofed that you are capable of taking the intensity of both exercises. As your EQ did not suffer so far, consider going all-in ;)
To ensure a good expansion in multi-directional directions in the pump, I would add O , slinky, or semi-flaccid bends and mid-eq squeezes before clamping as a warm up and add mid-eq jelqs after pumping to expand vertically as a warm-down.

As a pump template I would go for prelude’s style of pumping and adjust the times to high pressure.
Great read:

So probably high pressure until packing and than overpacking with lowered pressure, but longer holds.

Hopefully you go for girth as you worked so hard to get to that point in the pump.
I would avoid a Vac Hanger because of potential blisters that could be the end for pumping until healed.
Personally I would go for a extender and strap in bundled or do tunica tugs before girth work.

Whatever you do, just have fun and follow your heart ;) Great read as always.

I think TG has a good bead on what he needs to do….