Thank You, Thunder's Place

Not very much changed in the last few days, I saw little growth since the last update but I have a feeling I know why. I began adding a short amount of ULI like movements, to which my member has responded well to in the past. I’ve also begun slowing lengthening my routine, by about 1 minute of stretching extra every cycle, and 2 minutes of jelqing every cycle. A "cycle" for me, at the moment, is 2 days on 1 day rest or every 3 days.

At the moment my EQ is raising once again, morning wood is way WAY more consistent now. I have a feeling the ULIs stunted my length gains because almost immediately after beginning these ULIs I added 0.1" to my girth.

In addition, I managed to put together some of Eroset’s Vein Oil - for thrombosis and more not because of any injury, but I figure a vasodilator wouldn’t hurt any kind of recovery and be an alternative to moisturizer. Visibly, the oil is great, it looks like I get more vascular the moment I apply it, mechanically I am not sure that anything is happening. Either way I’ll run this for a few months and see if there is any notable difference after stopping. Additionally, I am hoping to soon get my hands on the materials and privacy required to build a My $3.00 homemade penimaster! or something similar, the moment I am able to I’ll be moving to the P phase outlined in Xeno’s IPR protocol.

Current Measurements: 7.0" BPEL (standing) and 5.1" EG

Alright, just demarking the day where I move to the “P” phase for a short time. Want to move a bit quicker than I normally would simply because I don’t think I have conditioned too hard, considering I only progressed only to the end of the newbie routine. With that in mind I’ll be doing this P phase for only a month. I wonder how adopting this protocol so early into a PE career would affect someone in the long term.. Hopefully I’ll see some rapid gains in October.

Due to time and privacy constraints, I’ll be aiming for 2-3 hours of very light hanging a day and more whenever I can.

I’ll be back sometime late October to post a new update :)

Just wanted to update a bit, now closing in on 7.2” sitting very close to 7 3/16”.

The only work I’ve done for the last 12 days is hanging whenever I can with about ~1.5 lb. I gotta say, even this sporadic and limited application of IPR “P” is providing amazing results thus far. Coaxing an extra 0.1” from whatever work was done for the past several months in the first half either indicates that I respond well to hanging, or that the IPR protocol is very effective (or both).

Morning wood is basically back to pre-PE states because I’ve been extremely lazy with Kegels without a workout to stick them to the end of.

In an effort to not need a drill or red hot nail in order to build one of ChickenChoker’s $3 hangers, I replaced the string with elastic hair ties and included some shoe heel padding for comfort. The weight is hung from a connective piece between the two hair tie connectors. Hair ties work in this scenario because I only intended to hang very lightly, and I still find it slipping from time to time. Either way, I can easily wear this device for half an hour or more.

I wonder now if I am being too granular, but I suppose this is more of a journal than anything else.

Officially broke BPEL 7 1/4” (or ~18.5cm)! In the nick of time too, will be going on a small decon break before starting up the regular workouts again in a few weeks. This new measurement marks a hair over 1/4” gained in 50 days. (Which happens to be ~0.042” a week, which is fun)

I feel like I set 7 1/4” as a sort of goal a month or two ago and seeing it just shy of the mark for weeks, then over it suddenly today felt like a mile’s difference despite it being less than 1/10”.

Considering posting progress pics if for no other reason than to provide some kind of proof of my experiences..

If anyone is reading these still, do you think a decon break is even necessary? I only started PE about two months ago. Time seems to move so slowly!

I sort of did a decon. It was decon from pumping for 2 months or so.

I did a lot of stretching still. I’m glad I did it. I was getting burned out more than anything and busy with the family.

I’ve never understood a break when you’re growing. It’s never made sense to me. Stay smart and have regular rest days.

You make a good point. Especially considering my own situation, not much to decon from in the first place. Xeno put it well in his explanation of the IPR protocol, taking breaks in an effort to make a few weeks of gains more easily. I feel like that would be the reason to take a decon break at all.

Have you seen consistent gains without decon breaks? Have you ever taken one?

I just finished up that sort of stretching decon, and am trying to figure if pure decon would be at all beneficial at this stage. I feel the burnout thing and wonder if resting would give me a new fire to continue in a few weeks.

Thanks for your thoughts, guys :)

Anyway, sometimes life hands you a decon whether you want it or not. Some unexpected life crisis or something. That’s how it always works with me.

Yes let life dictate your rest and decon days.
Personally I always do active decons even in weight training.

But if the going is good, keep going by all means!

Alright, fair enough! Sounds like sort of a consensus that a decon break is less prescriptive than I thought. I’ll take a week off and celebrate a bit, then get right back to it.

Thanks all for your input :)

Well, a bit has happened since my last update. Life caught me in the ass and kept me pretty busy, but still started up my second macrocycle of IPR inspired workouts about three weeks ago, jumped in length again, and now pretty reliably up to 7 3/8”. After a good workout I can approach 7 1/2” but it only lasts for five minutes, tops. All in all, just feeling fortunate that I haven’t hit any big plateaus yet.

I’ve been sticking with the same base workout from before. Basically 5 minutes manual stretches, 10 mins Jelq, and lots of warming all throughout. As I progress into the last two weeks or so I’ll be upping the times on both of the main workouts. I’ve been lazy about the cold/hot at the end of the workouts thus far, but with the new things I’ve been trying I will be bringing it back very soon.

Speaking of those new things, I looked for a thread on this but couldn’t seem to find anything. I’ve found that if I stretch StS and down while erect it gives a really really good stretch to something deep under the skin. The closest thing I’ve read about was Kyrpa ‘s post where he explains penile bodybuilding. I loved the idea of incorporating multiple avenues of growth, but so far feel like the actual stretching is more useful to me than the muscle building aspect of it. Especially considering the bends cause a sort of ULI/Cockring effect. Though I will admit it is easy to go too hard with these kinds of stretches and being sore is not uncommon even after very light work. Since incorporating these maybe once or twice a week for 10 or so seconds per stretch (10s each side, 10s down) my flaccid hang has been.. Noticeably larger. Take these findings with a grain of salt, by all metrics I am still a novice at this and it may all just be newbie/temporary gains.

Thinking back I realize that I am doing the opposite of what I was planning way back when I started and focusing almost entirely on length for the time being. I figure I’d like to hit my length goals first with the general consensus being that a thicker member is harder to stretch.

Haha, I just read your entire thread. I noticed you were gravitating towards the length goal and I think that happens to a lot of guys, depending on what gains show up first. Regardless, length before girth never seems to be a bad idea.

Even I am guilty of throwing in about an extra 20 min of stretching the past 48 hours since reaching a goal BPFSL. I remember a time a year ago when I was doing only manual stretching 4-5 days a week.. I got this feeling of fatigue right at the base of my unit on downward stretches. It felt great, and I think I was almost there today. The reason I want to get there is because I believe after that you can “ride the fatigue” and stay in that length gain zone.

Anyway, I enjoy reading your style of reporting. You certainly have a better attitude and understanding than what I started with. Keep it up, stay safe, and good luck!

Hey, Thanks Braun. Nice to know people are reading :) . Congrats on meeting your goal!

Trust me I know the desire to throw an extra bit of stretching or whatnot to the end of a great workout. Always an extra few minutes of stretches, or a different stretch than normal, whatever. For me “riding the fatigue” is especially noticeable during hanging, even with the super light weights I’ve been using.

I’ve noticed in the last few days that I’ve had a sort of non-measurement goal met. So, I’m a relatively large person, standing 6’1” and pretty steadily 220lb, which means I’ve got big hands. Up until about two weeks ago, I could pretty easily cover the length of my shaft with my palm, but today I’ve got “wiggle room” so to speak. Very cool to feel the change instead of just measure it!

Speaking of measuring, sitting at about 18.8cm (~7.4”) BPEL now. Moving forward I’ll include the metric and convert it to the Imperial measurements. I read a post about how the metric system was more accurate and turns out there really are more lines on the cm side. Who knew.

This was the post, it mentions the cm thing as a side note but the entire thing is a great read.

Alright, moving on to hanging for the next month. Noticed gains starting to peter out -don’t mind the pun- in the last week or so, and figured to continue testing the IPR method. Ended this phase right about ~18.85cm, some days 18.8 some 18.9 so I’ll call it in the middle.

Definitely didn’t get everything I could’ve out of this cycle. Spent a little too much time being busy and pretending to be busy instead of buckling down and doing a workout. Did have fun experimenting with what I could call ‘erect s2s stretching’ and erect turns that I’ve mentioned earlier in this thread. Real great pumps from those.

Moving forward, same protocol: very light weights for as often as I can until the end of January.