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Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

It definitely works...

…along with hydration.

I have been following the regime described in here for a few years. I also pump with Bathmate X40.

It is not like you gush like crazy every time, but it’s definitely a big improvement. I find my orgasms are more powerful when I come more, period. My favorite orgasms ever always resulted in several, prolonged contractions.

Just as an example, the other day my girlfriend and I really went at it several times at night. So the next morning she said she was sore, but she gets turned on if she plays with herself with her head on the pillow while I kinda kneel and she gives me head. When I came, it was otherworldly, it was a ton of precum and then several long shots. Her face was a mess. :-) But she’s a champ, and laughed it off, and claimed she’d post it as a new profile pic on Facebook. :-)

I believe Lecithin and Pygmeum are the most important ones for me.

Originally Posted by soonerbomb
I just looked up the site. Seem kind of gimmicky and suspicious.

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On the surface yes with the ad. But if you look at the numerous reviews they have good results. So I figured I would give it a try and document my results here. I have no stake in it other than the same thing as most guys on here. Just a real test. So as an update to the first day. The results of the first day must have been due to edging throughout the day because the second day was not as good but only a little better than before the volume pills. So started on December 9th. 1st day a lot more, 2nd day not so much, rest on the 3rd day. We will see if I make it through the 4th without a test.

Originally Posted by Smooth99
…along with hydration.

I have been following the regime described in here for a few years. I also pump with Bathmate X40.

It is not like you gush like crazy every time, but it’s definitely a big improvement. I find my orgasms are more powerful when I come more, period. My favorite orgasms ever always resulted in several, prolonged contractions.

Just as an example, the other day my girlfriend and I really went at it several times at night. So the next morning she said she was sore, but she gets turned on if she plays with herself with her head on the pillow while I kinda kneel and she gives me head. When I came, it was otherworldly, it was a ton of precum and then several long shots. Her face was a mess. :-) But she’s a champ, and laughed it off, and claimed she’d post it as a new profile pic on Facebook. :-)

I believe Lecithin and Pygmeum are the most important ones for me.

This was an endorsement of the original NON-BRANDED stack in this thread - not of any branded product. Just the supplements, nothing else. Just to be clear.

Originally Posted by Neisvane
Well, I was looking for Pygeum in Hungarian online stores and could not find it anywhere. However, I did find information suggesting that some of these stores used to sell the stuff but it is no longer available. One or two of these shops stated that Pygeum was “protected and thus cannot be sold in the EU”.
Pharmacies sell several supplements and medicines for the prostate, but these are all saw palmetto- or pumpkin-based, some of them also containing various herbs, but no Pygeum.

Perhaps the info I found at the online stores was wrong, and there is no EU-wide ban, but there must be some reason why this particular ingredient is unavailable in my country. Maybe it’s just local law that prohibits its import. Hungarian conservation legislation is (or at least used to be) stricter than that of the EU.
On further thought it is unlikely that Pygeum’s presence on Appendix II of CITES would be the reason for its being unavailable in Hungary. The USA is also a CITES member (a founder, in fact, which you expect from a Convention signed in Washington DC), as are most (if not all) EU member states, yet Pygeum is available in these countries. Trade of animals and plants in Appendix II of CITES (and products made from them) is illegal only if the specimens were collected in the wild, or more precisely, these specimens (or their parts) cannot be exported from their native countries. However, captive bred specimens can be sold legally, with appropriate documentation. So if you have a legal Pygeum africanum plantation, you can harvest and sell (even export) them.

Anyway, since Pygeum does seem to be illegal in my particular country (for why else would it be unavailable?), my original question remains: is there anything else I could use as its substitute?

I guess you can give Saw Palmetto or Lecithin a try. If you read among this thread using the search function, there are lots of people who had good results using Lecithin. With Saw Palmetto, it seems to work for some, not for others.

Originally Posted by renly84
I guess you can give Saw Palmetto or Lecithin a try. If you read among this thread using the search function, there are lots of people who had good results using Lecithin. With Saw Palmetto, it seems to work for some, not for others.

That’s exactly what I’m doing. It’s my second week on Lecithin, I took 1200 mg/day on the first week, but saw no result, so switched to 6x1200 mg/day (recommended in another forum). I also began taking Saw Palmetto and Zinc (400 mg and 10 mg respectively) three days ago. I dare not take more Zinc, as the 10 mg/day is very close to the recommended dosage of 11 mg/day, and I’d like to avoid toxic levels. Speaking of which, all the sites I read agree that 40 mg/day is the Tolerable Upper Intake level for adults, warning of adverse health effects if exceeded for a long time. Is it wise to take 50 mg/day (+ natural intake via food), as recommended in the OP, in the light of this?

I’ll see if these supplements make a difference, although I don’t really know how after how much time I should see some results.
I’m curious about Pygeum (and a possible substitute for it) because I read info on some forums that it is Pygeum that activates the Cowper’s Glands (while Saw Palmetto affects the prostate, if I recall correctly), and it would be awesome to have an abundance of precum. Well, in fact it would be great to have any precum at all, for I have never had any, save the occasional tiny drop at the tip of my penis after a lot of edging.

By the way, I have inquired about the alleged EU-wide ban on Pygeum at the online store that is referring to the ban. As of now, I’m waiting for their reply.

neisvane

I take zinc 25mg and I’m still here lol, the important thing is not to overdo it and always take breaks in its use, just like anything

Originally Posted by jojota
neisvane

I take zinc 25mg and I’m still here lol, the important thing is not to overdo it and always take breaks in its use, just like anything

I take 50mg Zinc tablet per day.


Starting 10/09/17: BPEL 7” & MSEG 4.75”

Current 12/18/17: 7 1/2" BPEL & 5" MSEG

Goal: BPEL 9” & MSEG 6”

If you take the lecithin try sunflower. My hubbies libido dropped when taking the soy but came back when he switched to sunflower. He’s been taking his recipe of the stack that we have learned works best for him through trial and error and are going to try for baby #2 hopefully over the weekend! 😊

Originally Posted by Heidi25
If you take the lecithin try sunflower. My hubbies libido dropped when taking the soy but came back when he switched to sunflower. He’s been taking his recipe of the stack that we have learned works best for him through trial and error and are going to try for baby #2 hopefully over the weekend! 😊

Thank you for the update. I was getting to place a hefty order of supplements. I figured it was best to check here for any suggestions.

I started a week ago.

I’ve noticed stronger orgasm.

But it didn’t increase the volume. I’m actually cumming less than before and it’s thicker, even tho I drink plenty of water.

I’ll cut 1 pill from now on for a week, to find the culprit, I’ll start with lecithin and will get back to you if I find which one makes me cum less.

Originally Posted by bazingaaaaaa
I started a week ago.
I’ve noticed stronger orgasm.
But it didn’t increase the volume. I’m actually cumming less than before and it’s thicker, even tho I drink plenty of water.
I’ll cut 1 pill from now on for a week, to find the culprit, I’ll start with lecithin and will get back to you if I find which one makes me cum less.

I’ve been on it for two months. I’ve worked on my kegel to give the strength to shoot further. I had the same problem as you. The orgasms are much better. But, semen is thicker and I wouldn’t consider increased. I was running the original CHG (cum holy grail) without Pygeum. I was only taking Lecithin, L-Arginine, and Zinc. I just ordered and received Pygeum, Damiana, Maca, and Bioprine (used to better utilize the supplements taken). I will update here as well as my report page with any findings.


Starting 10/09/17: BPEL 7” & MSEG 4.75”

Current 12/18/17: 7 1/2" BPEL & 5" MSEG

Goal: BPEL 9” & MSEG 6”

I dont know if some of you guys noticed that, but I believe edging is related to amount of cum we have during orgasm, as the matter of fact it is less than we would usually have, despite the fact we are on CHG - cum holy grail and we expect huge loads. I have tried CHG myself without pygeum, and, same like you, didnt experience increased cum loads. Reason behind is “edging without cumming” at least in my case. I cannot tell you more from scientific side cause I have no idea why is that so, but I saw somewhere TG is pointing to the same issue, maybe he can tell you more.

Try not to ejaculate or edge for a couple of days, Preferably more than three and than see what will happen, i am sure you will see much increased loads. One more thing VERY important is, once you start yerking off, do not refrain urself not to cum, do not control your orgasm, when it first comes, just let it blow…


Starting stats 16.11.2017. BPEL: 15.5 cm 6.1 In MEG: 14.8 cm 5.8 In

Jason's quest for length - Progress Log With Pictures

Originally Posted by soonerbomb
I’ve been on it for two months. I’ve worked on my kegel to give the strength to shoot further. I had the same problem as you. The orgasms are much better. But, semen is thicker and I wouldn’t consider increased. I was running the original CHG (cum holy grail) without Pygeum. I was only taking Lecithin, L-Arginine, and Zinc. I just ordered and received Pygeum, Damiana, Maca, and Bioprine (used to better utilize the supplements taken). I will update here as well as my report page with any findings.


I’ve heard that lecithin extract from sunflower might be better too.
I’ll give it a try if I ever finish the other bottle (soy extracted)

Originally Posted by JasonSt92
Try not to ejaculate or edge for a couple of days, Preferably more than three and than see what will happen, I am sure you will see much increased loads. One more thing VERY important is, once you start jerking off, do not refrain urself not to cum, do not control your orgasm, when it first comes, just let it blow..


I’ve noticed that too.
It’s hard to explain, but I feel like not letting myself cum at the first urge, will give that strange feeling that the semen is already “loaded in the barrel” but stuck at the bottom, not a very pleasurable experience.
So I’m not sure how to make edging enjoyable.

I wouldn’t have that feeling before taking the supplements

Originally Posted by bazingaaaaaa
I’ve heard that lecithin extract from sunflower might be better too.
I’ll give it a try if I ever finish the other bottle (soy extracted)

I’ve noticed that too.
It’s hard to explain, but I feel like not letting myself cum at the first urge, will give that strange feeling that the semen is already “loaded in the barrel” but stuck at the bottom, not a very pleasurable experience.
So I’m not sure how to make edging enjoyable.

I wouldn’t have that feeling before taking the supplements

Yes, something like that. I had that feeling even before supplementation. So if you just want to experiment and to put this CumHG on test, do not edge for a few days and after that just ejaculate on first urge, do not pay attention how fast that might be, load volume greatly depends on the factor how horny you really are at given moment, beside many others.

Regarding the edging, I understand and share your oppinion, how to make it enjoyable… well edging should really be just keeping you hard as long as possible, but not taking yourself to the PONR and eventually stop and resist our orgasm urge and do it all over, that is more like ballooning and what we are doing can be described like something between Edging and Ballooning, if that makes any sense.


Starting stats 16.11.2017. BPEL: 15.5 cm 6.1 In MEG: 14.8 cm 5.8 In

Jason's quest for length - Progress Log With Pictures

L-arginine and pine extract

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I’m over 45y old I used to have very poor erections but after taking l-arginine and pine extract for about 5 to 6 month it help me a lot. Before I couldn’t last more then 30 second but now I can go for way longer and it help me stay active as b4 I was feeling sleepy most of the time my wife notice that a lot.

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