Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

3 Days is about as long as I can go without absolutely needing to release. It’s a pretty “substantial amount” by that point, to use the words of a recent recipient ;-)

Hello! I am a new user of this forum, although I read this topic for a long time.

I’m interested in methods of measuring sperm volume, except visual. For example, I have a jewelry scales and a small glass. So I measure the weight of my sperm in grams. The density of the sperm is 1030, and the water is 1000, so the error is only 3%.

For example, recently, after 2 days without orgasm, the volume was 7.8 ml, the second time is 2.5 ml.

I take 2 capsules of soy lecithin x 1200 mg daily + I drink 2 liters of water

Hey, I can’t help you with maths, but I am sure that amount of sperm depends on many factors which you can’t control or keep count, such as how horny you are, how long was it since your last orgasm and so on.. So basically I believe every time will be different, but based on that you can calculate average.

Don’t stop until you fill coca cola can ! :D
Good luck bro.

I forgot to say that every day I do a testicle massage in the morning.

Also now I’m thinking about “modernized” Kegel exercises. If you are interested, I’ll write what I got.

I have been reading this thread for a while and just signed up because I wanted to share my first experiences. I am absolutely blown away by the wonders of these supplements!

Something about myself: 33 years old, I work out a lot, maybe 5 times a week and drink lots of water during the day. As a young adult I shot huge loads but in the past few years it just dribbled out, so I wanted to give the Holy Grail a shot.

I am a natural skeptic when it comes to these things, but after trying out the Holy Grail, I am a firm believer. Holy shit. I’ve started with the first supplements of the Holy Grail last week, Zinc 50mg, L-Ariginine and added some Maca. I added 75mg of Pygeum two days ago on Monday after it finally arrived in the mail. And boy did that do wonders. I shot a regular load on Monday night, was horny all day yesterday and couldn’t take it anymore today at work so I did some edging in the bathroom. I usually dribble some pre-cum but all of a sudden three clear creamy white shots of pre-cum shot out all over the floor without warning, I first thought I was cumming. It might have been a mini-orgasm but I remained hard and could have kept on going. I have never experienced anything like this before so I am totally stoked. I will shot a load tonight and report back. I am still waiting for my lecithin and celery seeds to arrive in the mail so I wonder how I will react after incorporating them to my stack. I don’t know if its even possible for the Pygeum to kick in within two days, but I have NEVER precumd like this before.

I’ve been on and off different stacks now for quite a while and wanted to share my progress a bit.
I’ve been trying for about the last three weeks the following,
Sunflower lecithin
L-arginine
Pygeum
Tribules terrestis
Zinc
Maca

Something or other took a while to sink in cause the first two weeks, without the trib added I didn’t have great improvements. I did have some though.
Normally my orgasms last between 5-10 seconds. Two nights ago after about an hour or wanking I came for 32 seconds, this was actually my third wank that day but the first two were quickies.
I’ve increased my loads from about 2-3 good squirts and a few dribbles, the other night I had 2-3 good precum squirts, 11-12 small orgasmic squirts and a bit of drainage after.
The surprising thing is I haven’t been hydrating myself much or holding of on cumming with a general daily wank.

I’m gonna try now edging every day, not cumming and trying to mainthin a gallon a day of water to see how it goes.

I’m really happy with this stacks effects to say the least.

Okay guys. I have been following this site for a while now. Tried the Grail formula but it was just a little better than without. Just some stats: 53 years old, no problems with desire, stamina or penis size. What I wanted help with was load volume size. In my younger years I had a large load, shot long distances. Over the years it has diminished to no shot distance but just a few drops and it dripped out. So I came across this site. The grail combination wasn’t enough for me. It helped but not where I wanted to be. That brought me to looking to any real reviews of additional supplements that would help without taking 10 separate pills. So that brings me to my new test and review of a supplement called “Volume Pills.” So I was taking 2000mg of L-Arginine and 50mg of DHEA. My energy levels were great with just that combo. But didn’t do what I wanted for load volume size. Ordered Volume Pills and started yesterday December 9th. I have a 60 day supply. I have to say, the first day was very encouraging, even though they say that I wouldn’t see an increase until it got into my system for 2 weeks. The first day I saw an increase of about 3-4 times more volume. Not much of shot distance but definitely an increase in load size in just one day. I hope it is a sign of good things to come and will document my findings here because I know guys would want to know and it isn’t something we discuss by the water cooler at work.

Whats in them?

Can you recommend something as a substitute for Pygeum? I live in an EU country, and I can’t seem to come by Pygeum, as I find it prohibited in the EU.

I just looked up the site. Seem kind of gimmicky and suspicious.

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Here in Switzerland Pygeum is an active ingredient in Prostate supplements, so you might wanna check the ingredients of the Prostate products you see in the store. I found them to be pretty expensive here though.

Cheaper option: I ordered my Pygeum from Swanson Vitamins in the USA, it cost only 8$ for shipping to Europe.

Well, as far as I know, Pygeum is unavailable in the whole EU both on its own and as an ingredient. Since the plant Pygeum africanum is in Appendix II of CITES, its trade is quite strictly regulated, due to conservation reasons.
I think in practice it may be possible to order the stuff online and have it shipped to me, but since it’s technically illegal, I’d run the risk of the goods being confiscated and me getting prosecuted for smuggling. It would be similar to having weed shipped to me from Uruguay (where it’s legal), although probably the punishment would be less severe for Pygeum.

So, instead of risking a probably illegal transaction, I’d like to find a legal alternative, if there is one.

Pygeum is the active ingredient in „Prostatonin“ which I bought at a pharmacy here in Switzerland. In Italy, its sold under the name „PGprost“. Also, both Amazon Germany and Biovea Germany sell Pygeum supplements, so I don’t think its unavailable in EU. Where did you get your info?

For Canadian Naturiste Prosta Complexe have :

270 mg Saw palmetto standardized to 25% fatty acids,
100 mg Pygeum,
100 mg Stinging nettle,
30 mg Saw palmetto.

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Well, I was looking for Pygeum in Hungarian online stores and could not find it anywhere. However, I did find information suggesting that some of these stores used to sell the stuff but it is no longer available. One or two of these shops stated that Pygeum was “protected and thus cannot be sold in the EU”.
Pharmacies sell several supplements and medicines for the prostate, but these are all saw palmetto- or pumpkin-based, some of them also containing various herbs, but no Pygeum.

Perhaps the info I found at the online stores was wrong, and there is no EU-wide ban, but there must be some reason why this particular ingredient is unavailable in my country. Maybe it’s just local law that prohibits its import. Hungarian conservation legislation is (or at least used to be) stricter than that of the EU.
On further thought it is unlikely that Pygeum’s presence on Appendix II of CITES would be the reason for its being unavailable in Hungary. The USA is also a CITES member (a founder, in fact, which you expect from a Convention signed in Washington DC), as are most (if not all) EU member states, yet Pygeum is available in these countries. Trade of animals and plants in Appendix II of CITES (and products made from them) is illegal only if the specimens were collected in the wild, or more precisely, these specimens (or their parts) cannot be exported from their native countries. However, captive bred specimens can be sold legally, with appropriate documentation. So if you have a legal Pygeum africanum plantation, you can harvest and sell (even export) them.

Anyway, since Pygeum does seem to be illegal in my particular country (for why else would it be unavailable?), my original question remains: is there anything else I could use as its substitute?