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Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

Originally Posted by lapsslap
Zinc is definitely difficult to digest. ALWAYS have that with food. Are you taking everything at once? What are you taking for lecithin?

I would recommend taking each individually to isolate the cause.

You can take l-arginine between meals.

Maybe try lecithin and zinc in the morning with food. Maybe switch to sunflower instead of soy if that doesn’t work for you, or leave it out altogether to see if you can stomach the zinc. What form of zinc? And are you taking it everyday? I would recommend Now Zinc Picolinate, every other day. For example: I do Mon, Wed, Fri. The dose is sufficient to carry over the odd days.

You can take arginine in its pure form in between meals. I recommend l-citrulline for a longer lasting effect.

Take Pygeum with a meal preferably, and with lunch or supper. I personally wouldn’t take it at all.

Thanks for the tips. I started taking the pills throughout the day, one or two at a time, to minimize nausea and help identify the problem. I think you’re correct that Zinc is the tough one. I don’t eat much breakfast so I’ll start taking Zinc, alone, with the day’s biggest meal (usually dinner). If that still causes issues, then I’ll try it every other day as you suggest. The Lecithin soy based. Basic’s Brand from Walmart, I think. I’ll see if it still hurts when taken separately from the Zinc. If so, I’ll try a version sourced from sunflower. I didn’t have any problems today until just taking the Zinc (by itself). Probably needed more food in the stomach.

Originally Posted by Redditest

Probably needed more food in the stomach.

Yes. Try having it with the biggest meal. I suggested morning because for me, it’s one of the more significant meals.

You can also split the dose into 2.

L Arginine or Cialis?

I have recently started the “holy grail” stack. I already have a script for Cialis. Both L arginine and Cialis are vasodilators. Which should I drop? Cialis works great, but L arginine doesn’t seem to be having the same effect, but is much cheaper. Thanks in advance.

If you’re using arginine already, and it isn’t giving you the rigid erections, you should drop that. I don’t believe arginine has any effect on volume

I’m starting with 500 mg pygeum bark twice a day. Would that be enough for more precum? How long to wait? I leak a lot already, but wish for a terribly lot more. What should I take also? All advice welcome! Also vids what to expect, thank You!

Drink more water. You’ll get the results you seek.

Do you guys think that testosterone levels may affect ejaculate volume?

The reason that the grail or any other supplements are of help to some, but do nothing for others, might be because of high/low levels of testosterone?

This is probably the last thing I want to try if it exists, a testosterone booster (I am going to cut back on drinking and doing more weight lifting as I’m sure that will help with testosterone levels).

Does anyone here know of a safe way to increase testosterone? And I’m not looking for steroids or any crap like that.

Newbie to PE and supplements. I’m hoping to bring something new to the bedroom. Feeling like I’m losing my partner..

I got myself:
100mg Pygeum (400mg bark) x2 daily
1200mg sunflower lecithin x2 daily
50mg zinc x1 daily

60-80fl oz of water daily.

I started this week after reading this thread. I read something about cycling? Do I not take this “stack” everyday? I think cycling said something about five days and a two day break vs three weeks and a two week break?

Please advise for someone new to all of this.

Supplements or PE won’t help you keep your partner

Originally Posted by Brundari
Do you guys think that testosterone levels may affect ejaculate volume?

Normal hormone balance is important for normal sperm production. Many hormones contribute to the production of sperm and therefore maybe even volume. It’s not as simple as high testosterone=high semen volume. Many factors are involved.
Aim for a wholesome lifestyle including whole foods, good sleep, regular exercise, reasonable alcohol consumption, and yes, lots of good sex! These all help towards your goal. If all this fails to improve somewhat your condition, then you can try certain supplements that MIGHT assist you in reaching your goal. Many have been discussed here prior, which may help healthy testosterone levels and increase sperm production.

My preferred list for myself:
Vitamin D: Association of vitamin D status with serum androgen levels in men - PubMed
Ginger: Ginger—an herbal medicinal product with broad anti-inflammatory actions - PubMed
LJ100: Standardised water-soluble extract of Eurycoma longifolia, Tongkat ali, as testosterone booster for managing men with late-onset hypogonadism? - PubMed
Zinc: Zinc status and serum testosterone levels of healthy adults - PubMed
Ashwagandha Clinical Evaluation of the Spermatogenic Activity of the Root Extract of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) in Oligospermic Males: A Pilot Study - PubMed

Originally Posted by lapsslap
Supplements or PE won’t help you keep your partner

Partner has a cum kink and I don’t give much and I hardly pre at all.

And, god forbid, things don’t work out. I would like to be able to do that for my next person, y’know?

[QUOTE=coolbill]
I just picked up some Lecithin and immediately saw the word ‘soy’ which raised this flag. Any comments?

Great thread. You must have been reading my mind.
What are you taking or doing to make it that big.

Super, thanks for the input Lapslap.

Originally Posted by lapsslap
Normal hormone balance is important for normal sperm production. Many hormones contribute to the production of sperm and therefore maybe even volume. It’s not as simple as high testosterone=high semen volume. Many factors are involved.
Aim for a wholesome lifestyle including whole foods, good sleep, regular exercise, reasonable alcohol consumption, and yes, lots of good sex! These all help towards your goal. If all this fails to improve somewhat your condition, then you can try certain supplements that MIGHT assist you in reaching your goal. Many have been discussed here prior, which may help healthy testosterone levels and increase sperm production.

My preferred list for myself:
Vitamin D: Association of vitamin D status with serum androgen levels in men - PubMed
Ginger: Ginger—an herbal medicinal product with broad anti-inflammatory actions - PubMed
LJ100: Standardised water-soluble extract of Eurycoma longifolia, Tongkat ali, as testosterone booster for managing men with late-onset hypogonadism? - PubMed
Zinc: Zinc status and serum testosterone levels of healthy adults - PubMed
Ashwagandha Clinical Evaluation of the Spermatogenic Activity of the Root Extract of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) in Oligospermic Males: A Pilot Study - PubMed

Why have I never cum across a girl with a fetish for cum :(

Actually I shouldn’t complain, one of my previous gf’s pretty much was into whatever I wanted to do.

But as for your current partner, if you break up, the next gf might not be interested in any fluids coming near her, keep that in mind.

Originally Posted by Maerobin
Partner has a cum kink and I don’t give much and I hardly pre at all.

And, god forbid, things don’t work out. I would like to be able to do that for my next person, y’know?

Has anyone measured their cum load before and after using the stack? On average, men produce between 1.25 and 5.00 ml (1/4 of a teaspoon to 1 teaspoon) of semen when they ejaculate. I’m curious what your results are. I think this would be the only true test for determining whether the stack is effective.

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