I have been on a modified version of this stack for about 2 weeks now, and I have added and subtracted things from it as things have gone on. Here has been my experience thus far with these.
All supplements were purchased on amazon, I am in the US so some of these may not be available outside here.
Pygeum-Swanson brand. 100mg extract(6.5%phytosterols) with 400mg bark, taken 2-3 times daily
In terms of precum, about a week in I noticed that I was shooting out some a couple seconds before orgasm. Other than that I am still bone dry until the point right before orgasm. I was excited about this one when I started it, I really wanted to see the “leaking” that some users have described. Hopefully this will kick in over the next few weeks. In terms of side effects I may have experienced slight libido or EQ effects, but not much. Maybe its just the placebo effect from worrying about my DHT.
Saw Palmetto- nature’s truth brand. 1200mg(1000mg whole berry 10:1 extract + 200mg whole berry) taken 3 times daily
I tried this a couple times throughout the last 2 weeks, and noticed a drop in energy and libido after 2 days. I have discontinued this
L-Arginine-now brand 1000mg taken 3-5 times daily
This one started working almost immediately, definitely within a few days. Definitely increased energy, but more importantly much harder erections. After 2 weeks I have noticed much more veiny and stiff erections, lasting longer. Will definitely keep this. I have cold sores, whatever herpes virus that is, the one that like 50 percent of people have. After about a week I noticed that I was beginning to get cold sores. I upped my L-Lysine to 2000mg and they went away. Other than that, some increased heart rate and some insomnia if taken too late in the day (I don’t take it after 3pm). This one is a keeper
L-Lysine-PureNaturals brand 1000mg taken twice daily.
I only take this one to counteract the cold sores from L-Arginine. It works if I take 2000mg a day. No side effects
Sunflower lechitin-now brand 1200mg taken 2-3 times daily
This one appears to be improving load size. With this and zinc, I have gone from 5-6 ropes to 10 or more. Orgasms are definitely more intense. This one also seems to keep me fuller throughout the day, I can go longer between meals without getting hungry.
Maca yellow, black, and red-Gold Health brand 1500mg taken twice daily
This was a good supplement, gave me energy and an increased libido after only a few days. However I have discontinued this supplement after finding another maca supplement that is only black maca. No side effects
Black maca root extract 100%- The Maca Team brand 1/2 tsp taken 2-3 times a day
This is a liquid extract, and is therefore hard to compute real dosage of the stuff, but it is my favorite maca supplement over the previous one. It is a liquid, so it kicks in after maybe an hour. Very effective for increasing energy and libido, general mood. I would take this even if it didn’t effect my libido, and it doesn’t have an effect on load size or anything
Tongkat Ali complex-double wood brand 1000 mg 200:1 root extract and 20mg tribulus terrestrial fruit extract
This is a good supplement for increasing energy and libido. It gave me a mini anxiety attack about 1 hour after taking the first dose, but I continued to take it for about a week after that and didn’t experience that again. I discontinued this after finding another tonkat supplement
Ferodrox testosterone support matrix- kaged muscle brand 30mg zinc monoethionune, 600mg ksm66 (proprietary) ashwagandha extract 5 percent standardized, 200mg LJ100 eurycoma longfolia root extract, and some other proprietary sundries
This one was a little pricey, and I have only been on it for a few days, so it’s a little too early to tell. This replaced the tongkat ali supplement because it has LJ100 in it
99% pure icariin powder-liftmode brand 50-200mg taken 2 times daily
This one is awesome. This is the active ingredient in Horny goat weed (HGW). This seems to be more effective at increasing libido than plain old HGW, albeit a little pricey. It is in powder form, and the taste will make you gag if you don’t gulp it down really fast and chase it with something. However, I have found that the liquid maca extract I take, when combined with water and the icariin powder, seems to somehow cancel out the taste of the icariin and maca and is much easier to take. I highly recommend this one. Effective after the first dose
Daimana-wild harvest brand 750mg daimana leaf taken once daily
This one is the only one I had to discontinue immediately after one dose. In terms of its effects, it took about 2 hours to kick in and it made me incredibly tired. The thing that made me discontinue use was the disorientation and dizziness. It was as if I had downed a whole bottle of robitussin or something. I was glad I didn’t have to drive anywhere that afternoon, because I don’t think I would have been able to. I haven’t seen anyone report these kinds of side effects from daimana on this thread, but if you choose to take it please be cautious.
I have decided to try megadosing the Pygeum to see if that has any effect for a couple weeks, and if I don’t notice anything I will probably reduce dosage or discontinue use. Heres hoping I’m not one of the people that pygeum doesnt work for.
I will continue updating if anything changes
Thank you to all the pioneers of this thread a decade ago, this is some great stuff.