Retarded ejaculation

Has anyone had any luck taking the amino acid histidine to increase histamines. Supposedly this connection exists. I tried it any didn’t notice any effect.

No, I assume that your best route would be the slower way, the nutrients would flow into the nooks and crannies where needed besides just raising the histamine. The health effects would be there, besides the goal of a more balanced levels. This will affect your body and your brain chemistry, so better to not be hasteful and rush through things. I do understand your quick desire to fix the problem, but personally I wouldn’t recommend it.

I had some contact with the pharmacist and he says that they do not do those test over the counter in any pharmacy in the UK owing to the fact that the medical board here is of the mind the self tests are not accurate. This the only method left would be either to get a test off the internet from the US or somewhere else,if that fails then the apparently “expensive” blood test.

Yes through that which I have been reading and that which I know from my experiences; I think there is a strong case that lower histamine levels could very well be a contributing factor.I am going to follow some of the guidelines pertaining to those with low/lower histamine levels and see what follows. I will keep you posted, thanks for all those links Twatteaser.

Read up on it, and come to your own conclusions. I would at least try the simple test of how you react to taking Niacin, before you piss away any real money on this. It is almost more akin to the old tricks mechanics use to see how bad your plug wires are quickly. You take a spray bottle (get them anywhere here in America, like a 99cent store), fill it with water, and add a few pinches of table salt. Shake it up and with the car running, spray on the wires all over and see if any lightning or sparks come up.

It is almost like a reverse allergy test, in which they jab you with needles of this, that, and some other thing and see how you react. Instead you take Niacin (b3) in 50mg intervals until you see a flushing on an empty stomach. It isn’t complicated at all.

I just don’t want to see anyone parted with money and time, when something so incredibly simple can be a reliable indicator of any problems you have. A normal chemist or pharmacist, doesn’t even know the ins and out of histamine since it is such an extreme niche area to know about. I was talking with the manager of the Vitamin Shoppe near me, whom has a PhD in Chemistry (why would someone with this manage a franchised supplement shop, I have no idea) and he didn’t know about this at all. Of course it isn’t mainstream at all.

Quick, INEXPENSIVE, and Dirty testing vs big money. If you wish you can do both.

Perhaps we have a misunderstanding here, I think you believe I am saying there is a supermarket commercial established test for this. I am not, I am saying there is a quick and dirty, effective way to test yourself by buying Niacin. I just reread some of your posts and perhaps that is the miscommunication?

Yes that is exactly what I went looking for some or other self test, I apologise if I did not quite understand that which you were trying to get through. Either way I have been reading how to use the Niacin as a self-test via consumption of the tabs on an empty stomach. I will get back to you with my finding; thank you for your contributions.

T. T. Can you clear up the Niacin thing for me. If we flush does that mean we have enough histamine? Or too much?

Okay, let me first explain I am no real expert at this. I have a weak background in any type of hard science since I was a Liberal Arts major. So no real sciences for me, I do have a decent psychology background, but am weak again in specific angles such as physiologic psych, psychopharmocology, etc… the closest courses that I had was a shadow specialization in addictions psychology, only cause they were psych electives.

The angle that I am entering all the conversations is from a psychological one looking through the filter of Orthomolecular-based treatments, specifically a psychiatry aspect. The literature that I read had a depression/anxiety, etc.. focus and housed certain symptoms on both ends of the spectrum about how libido and climaxing is fast or slow from histamine levels.

1. Histadelia Means HIGH HISTAMINE

Histadelic depressives have a particular imbalanced amino-acid cycle, which results in low levels of serotonin and elevated histamine. Histadelics often exhibit obsessive-compulsive tendencies, perfectionism, seasonal allergies, easy tears, high libido, and headaches. They have addictive tendencies with a high incidence of alcoholism, drug abuse, anorexia, and bulimia. They often are diagnosed with seasonal affective disorder which is most serious during Fall and Winter. The decisive chemical test for this condition is whole blood histamine. We treat histadelia with a biochemical one-two punch in which (1) calcium is given to release excess histamine from tissues into the bloodstream, and (2) methionine is provided to add a methy group to blood histamine and hasten its exit from the body. With good compliance, improvement is usually noted in 4-8 weeks with about 3-6 months needed to correct this chemical imbalance.

2. Histapenia Means LOW HISTAMINE

Histapenic depressives have a low level of histamine in blood and neuronal tissues and are believed to be individuals with high levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine. Common symptoms include high anxiety, academic underachievement, social isolation, food allergies, chemical sensitivities, low libido, dry eyes, and upper-body or head pain. About one-third experience anxiety disorders, panic attacks, or paranoia. Histapenics usually exhibit blood histamine levels below 40 mcg/dL, and react badly to anti-histamines, which naturally reduce their histamine levels even further. Treatment revolves around folic acid, vitamin B-3 (niacin or niacinamide), Vitamin B-12, and a high-protein diet. Gradual improvement usually begins within 2-4 weeks, with several months needed to properly correct this chemical imbalance.

More background from a commercial site

One way you can test your histamine levels is to buy some nicotinic acid (the niacin that causes the flush) in 50 mg. dose. If you have high histamine levels then you will experience a flush from only 50 mg. dose. If it takes 100 mg. to cause you to flush then you have normal (or balanced) histamine levels. If it takes from 150 mg. to 250 mg. dose of niacin to flush then you have low histamine levels.

To do this test you need to take the dose on an empty stomach. Do not try repeating this test for several hours or it may cause a flush from the accumulation of the two doses.

If you think you may have high histamine levels, then you may want to have something on hand to counter that flush. Aspirin, calcium or amylase will help to lower your histamine levels. Usually high histamine types will find the flush uncomfortable. There is nothing wrong with experiencing the flush, so you don’t have to counter it if you don’t have anything to use. But be aware that you should try this at home and have at least a hour or 1.5 hours to test this so you don’t have a red face while out in public.

A lot of people say they can match both low and high symptoms, so it is not always easy to figure out your histamine levels from the symptom list. The niacin has to be normal niacin not delayed release.

Generally high histamine dudes often have pre-mature ejaculation problems supposedly. So that is the quick cumming angle.

So let us say you buy the ingredients above, on an empty stomach try 50mg and see what happenings. If no result of flushing occurs at 50mg, Wait a good amount of time let us say maybe 12 hours and try (2) 50mg capsules of non-delayed normal niacin on an empty stomach. If nothing happens at 100mg, wait 12 hours, and try (3) 50 mg capsules for a total of 150mg and see what happens. If nothing happens, keep repeating with an empty stomach and time apart, until you flush, by adding another 50mg to the previous amount all at once.

The time factor is assuming that you have shit to do, you want to eat, go to work, etc… hence the long length before the stomach empties. You could do this over a period of a week every morning when your first get up before eating instead. That would be 5 days worth if you had to go all the way to 250mg of Niacin.

You could do this in 25mg doses if you wanted, just as well too. Either double the 25mg to equal 50mg or count in units of 25 while attempting the test.

If a niacin tablet is taken on an empty stomach, a flush will occur (if it is going to occur at all) within about 20 minutes. If niacin is taken right after a meal, a flush may be delayed. In fact, the flush may occur long enough afterwards that you forgot that you took the niacin! Don’t let the flush surprise you. Remember that niacin does that, and you can monitor it easily.

So the Less Niacin you have in the body, the more you need to get a flush. A high histamine type will flush right away and a low histamine type is at the opposite end of the scale, needing a large dose of Niacin to flush.

The niacin “flush”

It’s important to note that this niacin flush is not harmful or dangerous. Some people worry about it, but it is actually a sign of improved blood flow.
When you get the niacin “flush”, it’s an indication that the niacin is causing small blood vessels in your body to be expanded in size. Many of your small blood vessels, called “capilaries” are so small that blood cells can only go through them in single file. Sometimes, in fact, that small capilary passageway is clogged and blood doesn’t get through at all.
niacin and capillaries

While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the skin, get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and nutrients) from these small capillaries.

The niacin causes these small capilaries to expand - so they might be able to carry 2 or 3 blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow.

You experience this as a “flushing” of the skin, simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As the blood flows in these areas, the cells of the small capilaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce ‘histamine’ as part of this process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body when a cell is under attack, or is eliminating toxins. Histamine causes an ‘itchy’ feeling.

If you do flush, drinking two 8-12 oz glasses of water immediately breaks the flush within 3 minutes in the great majority of people. It’s quite dramatic. Only an occasional person will need to take a 325 mg uncoated aspirin to more fully break the flush.

Possible Interactions with: Vitamin B3 (Niacin)

Also listed as: Inositol Hexaniacinate; Niacin; Niacinamide; Nicotinamide; Nicotinic Acid; Vitamin B3 (Niacin)
Interactions

If you are currently being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use niacin without first talking to your healthcare provider.

Antibiotics, Tetracycline - Niacin should not be taken at the same time as the antibiotic tetracycline because it interferes with the absorption and effectiveness of this medication. Niacin either alone or in combination with other B vitamins should be taken at different times from tetracycline. (All vitamin B complex supplements act in this way and should therefore be taken at different times from tetracycline.)

Aspirin - Taking aspirin before taking niacin may reduce flushing associated with this vitamin. This should only be done under the advice of a healthcare practitioner.

Blood Pressure Medications, Alpha-blockers - When niacin is taken with certain blood pressure medications known as alpha-blockers (such as prazosin, doxazosin, and guanabenz), the likelihood of side effects from these medications is increased.

Cholesterol-lowering Medications - Niacin binds bile-acid sequestrants (cholesterol-lowering medications such as colestipol, colesevelam, and cholestyramine) and may decrease their effectiveness. For this reason, niacin and these medications should be taken at different times of the day.

As described earlier, recent scientific evidence suggests that taking niacin with simvastatin (a drug that belongs to a class of cholesterol-lowering medications known as HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors or statins including atorvastatin and lovastatin as well), appears to slow down the progression of heart disease. However, the combination may also increases the likelihood for serious side effects, such as muscle inflammation or liver damage.

Diabetes Medications - People taking insulin, metformin, glyburide, glipizide, or other medications used to treat high blood sugar levels should monitor their blood sugar levels closely when taking niacin supplements.

Isoniazid (INH) - INH, a medication used to treat tuberculosis, may deplete levels of niacin and cause a deficiency.

Nicotine Patches - The use of nicotine patches with niacin may worsen or increase the risk of flushing reactions associated with this vitamin when used medicinally.

Drug Interactions
Alpha-blockers
Aspirin
Cholesterol-lowering Medications
Glipizide
Glyburide
Insulin Preparations
Metformin-containing Medications
Smoking-cessation Products
Tetracycline

http://www.umm. edu/altmed/arti … n-b3-000990.htm

This is a simple test to see if you have high or low histamine levels. I know some people find it confusing to tell from the symptoms. So this test can give you confirmation.

If high histamine levels get 50 mg. of niacin. It may seem a waste to buy niacin if you should avoid it but that is the easiest way to do the test I think. I know Carlson’s niacin is about $3, so it is not that expensive.

If you take the 50 mg. of niacin (nicotinic acid form) on an empty stomach and you have a flush you have high histamine levels. This test is accurate, I think. I have low histamine levels and that means I need higher doses, but when I finished the loading phase I would flush at a lower dose.

Normal histamine levels would cause the flush at 100 mg. of niacin. And a low histamine type can take as much as 250 mg. of niacin to flush.

Now, you must do the test away from other supplement that might affect this, like folic acid, histadine or carnosine. So, I recommend doing it first thing in the morning before breakfast so any nutrients - from supplements or even food have been metabolized.

Now, if you think you are a high histamine type (histadelic) you might have some vitamin c or amalyse (or even broad spectrum digestive enzymes) or methionine handy. These supplements or aspirin can help to counter the uncomfortable itching and redness of the flush.

I believe that William Walsh has said that b12 can go either way for histadelics, mean it can be a problem for some high histamine types or it can be fine too. But the niaicn test will tell you. I believe that a doctor can do simple blood test for mast cell histamine levels too. This is not the RAST test though or any kind of allergy test.
http://brain.ha stypastry.net/f … hp/t-21373.html

TT,

I’ve been reading the histamine test and I’m going to give it a try. Should it turn out that I do have high histamine levels is there a way to lower it? Due to the color of my skin how will I know if I’m experiencing the “flush” you speak of?

Thanks,

T.

From earlier on this page

Thanks Springer240 I missed that part.