Ligament ache pain, good or bad?

I picked up something important from this post and I have to ask about it: when you were unable to fatigue your ligaments, did the dull ache immediately after/day after also disappear? Is that when your gains stopped?

I’m not going to start trying to understand tunica fatigue just yet :)

Yes. That or some extraordinary phisiologic trait. I have to say the sole convincing photos of someboy who gained 2”+ in length are the ones of Bennet8, who did almost only manual fulcrum stretches, which don’t target the ligs at all. I don’t have seen all the pics on this forum though (I would be tempted to say ‘Of course’).

Stretching down is the best angle to target the dorsal side of the tunica, which is the harder to elongate since it is the thicker. Stretching BTC is basically stretching down plus using your body as a fulcrum, if it is clear what I mean; so what said for stretch down stands for BTC.

I never felt anything like that. If you push gently on the ‘aching’ area with your fingers, what do you feel?

I started to feel the fatigue in my inner penis.. behind the balls in BTC angle. It happened over couple of weeks, first I felt the fatigue in the ligaments, then at the later sets I started to feel it behind the balls. Then one day I only felt it behind my balls, not on the ligs at all and ligs were still sore. I can’t remember how long the ligament fatigue lasted. Probably couple days to a week, I’m not sure.

That’s when the gains stopped and BTC didn’t give good stretch anymore. It felt like its doing almost nothing. Only way I can feel BTC in the dorsal side of the unit is to hang fulcrum sets before BTC. Otherwise BTC goes to inner penis, behind the balls(if your ligaments are stretched).

Personally, I don’t see the point in making a difference in technique used (manual stretch or hanging) since the wanted effect is the same.

Perhaps you want to take a little time to explain to me how collagen restructures in response to load? I think that could help me a lot! If you don’t feel that you have the time, perhaps you could provide me with a good link to explain it?

When you say that “stressing it without letting it recover will not allot it to adapt/grow” - how does that apply to ADS? My understanding of ADS is that it allows the tissues to adapt/grow since the tissues recover in the elongated state, “filling in the blanks”. Is this wrong? Please tell me about how collagen re-structures in response to load!

I’m currently starting to lean towards that a slight “ache” is a sign that you are in the far end of the “risk scale” but that it is a useful sign for determining what frequency/intensity your dick can handle.

Wow thats amazing how you actually noticed a change like that. And how long, with what stretching routine, did it take for this effect to happen?
Is this effect a sure way to know that a person have maxed out their ligament gains?

Side note: you dont stretch BTC anymore, because you dont think that you will get gains from stretching your inner penis? Or because you actually stretched like that for a long time, without gains?

Alright, thats some useful information about the continued gaining. Thank you for that.

What does "fulcrum" mean?

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I was hanging BTC. Hard to say how long it took because I have been on/off. I would estimate that maybe a little more than year or so. I really believe that when you feel the stretch at the inner penis in BTC angle, it’s time to change angles.

I still hang one BTC set a day and other sets are RSDT and OTS. I believe that you can get gains from stretching the inner penis, BTC is just not the best angle for that. OTS for example can be used with less weight to get the same fatigue.

But when the inner penis stretches/grows, ligs should start to take tension on the BTC again. Inner penis “pushes” the whole outer penis out and ligs are getting tight again, if you get what I mean.

http://en.wikti … fulcrum#English

Its hard to stop completely at this point, as I was getting very into it. Even had a dream where my dick was totally enormous and I was fucking ultra horny women in a prison (wtf?), having to squeeze into them.

(Sorry about grammar, I’m swe)

Yes i understand exactly. Thank you for clearing that up.

Is what you just said about the progression of stretching angles (and the logic behind it) a commonly accepted idea here on TP? I’m asking you this based on your post count :D