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Steel Cord and stretching

Steel Cord and stretching

Hey,

Whenever I go to stretch, I notice a long hard, almost steel like cord running along the top of my penis. It doesn’t allow me to stretch the penis itself, just the cord. What is the best way to tackle this and what type of stretches should I be doing?

Help appreciated!

Originally Posted by Ezza
Hey,

Whenever I go to stretch, I notice a long hard, almost steel like cord running along the top of my penis. It doesn’t allow me to stretch the penis itself, just the cord. What is the best way to tackle this and what type of stretches should I be doing?

Help appreciated!

Do a thunders search for “septum”.

Someone PM’d me recently asking about this - here’s what I said to them: (I’m not in the habit of doing personal PM routine advice in detail - this was an exception, so please don’t ask!)

OK, happy to share what’s worked for me.
If you have a dick like a steel hawser, normal PE methods are going to be like hanging a 2 pound fish on a 50 pound line and expecting it to stretch. It just isn’t going to happen. The approach becomes more vigorous. The problem with any collagenous tissue is it adapts to stress, so if you just add more force, you will create more tensile strength - this is a problem many guys who get no gains encounter - they think pulling harder will give faster gains, but all it does is create tougher tissues, more resistant to stretch.
So what approach overcomes the strong tissues without creating excessive strengthening (some is inevitable)?

Heat is essential to increased motility in collagenous tissue. I’ve had guys without super tough dicks try the experiment: one day take your penis to its max flaccid stretch length after a normal PE workout without heat - next day use heat and do the same routine and measure FSL again afterwards. The majority got a notably higher reading after using heat. I’ve also had many guys PM me who gained following the newbie routine properly, then their gains stopped when they changed routines. When asked if they continued using heat after the newbie, it is the most common thing they left out. When they added heat again, their gains re-started.
So heat is vital.

After heat comes more force. Lots more force. The fact the tissue is heated and the collagen bonds are more motile stops it toughening as much as if applying a stressor to ‘cold’ tissue.
Really the best way to apply force to target the septum/dorsal thickening/cord is the approach outlined in Mem's Momentous Rapid Gain Mechanism which stretches the tissues over a fulcrum, instead of directly along their longitudinal axis (their LA is their plane of strongest resistance to stretch). The times, force levels and methods laid out in that thread are highly applicable to us.
The jelqing is important also, as it helps to ‘loosen’ all the penile tissues by applying force against the longitudinal and circumferential tissues, making them all more amenable to stretching.

Mem’s routine may be enough. But for a super tough penis it may not. If it isn’t, you need to capitalise on the weakening/tiring of the bonds it creates. If you are purely after length, re-heating then hanging for 20+ minutes after the fulcrum stretching will encourage ‘creep’ in the tissues. If you are wanting girth as well, pumping for 20+ minutes (again, better done after the fulcrum stretching if the ‘cord’ is your main sticking point) is a good option.

This is a tough routine and can reduce or even kill your EQ (erection quality) for a couple of days. So I suggest doing it for 2 or 3 days max, then having a day off, then a day of normal newbie routine (stretch/jelq) just as active recovery, then if your EQ is back up, repeat the process. If your EQ is not fully back, do another day or 2 of normal newbie routine before hammering it again.

Hope that helps some.


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Great response! Added this to my favourites :D


Sept 2008: 6.0 X 4.9

Sept 2012: BPEL: 7.125 x 5.125

Nov 2015: Returned, stats unknown.

Amazing help, thank you so much for this!

Originally Posted by firegoat
Someone PM’d me recently asking about this - here’s what I said to them: (I’m not in the habit of doing personal PM routine advice in detail - this was an exception, so please don’t ask!)

OK, happy to share what’s worked for me.
If you have a dick like a steel hawser, normal PE methods are going to be like hanging a 2 pound fish on a 50 pound line and expecting it to stretch. It just isn’t going to happen. The approach becomes more vigorous. The problem with any collagenous tissue is it adapts to stress, so if you just add more force, you will create more tensile strength - this is a problem many guys who get no gains encounter - they think pulling harder will give faster gains, but all it does is create tougher tissues, more resistant to stretch.
So what approach overcomes the strong tissues without creating excessive strengthening (some is inevitable)?

Heat is essential to increased motility in collagenous tissue. I’ve had guys without super tough dicks try the experiment: one day take your penis to its max flaccid stretch length after a normal PE workout without heat - next day use heat and do the same routine and measure FSL again afterwards. The majority got a notably higher reading after using heat. I’ve also had many guys PM me who gained following the newbie routine properly, then their gains stopped when they changed routines. When asked if they continued using heat after the newbie, it is the most common thing they left out. When they added heat again, their gains re-started.
So heat is vital.

After heat comes more force. Lots more force. The fact the tissue is heated and the collagen bonds are more motile stops it toughening as much as if applying a stressor to ‘cold’ tissue.
Really the best way to apply force to target the septum/dorsal thickening/cord is the approach outlined in [you]Mem’s Momentous Rapid Gain Mechanism[/you] which stretches the tissues over a fulcrum, instead of directly along their longitudinal axis (their LA is their plane of strongest resistance to stretch). The times, force levels and methods laid out in that thread are highly applicable to us.
The jelqing is important also, as it helps to ‘loosen’ all the penile tissues by applying force against the longitudinal and circumferential tissues, making them all more amenable to stretching.

Mem’s routine may be enough. But for a super tough penis it may not. If it isn’t, you need to capitalise on the weakening/tiring of the bonds it creates. If you are purely after length, re-heating then hanging for 20+ minutes after the fulcrum stretching will encourage ‘creep’ in the tissues. If you are wanting girth as well, pumping for 20+ minutes (again, better done after the fulcrum stretching if the ‘cord’ is your main sticking point) is a good option.

This is a tough routine and can reduce or even kill your EQ (erection quality) for a couple of days. So I suggest doing it for 2 or 3 days max, then having a day off, then a day of normal newbie routine (stretch/jelq) just as active recovery, then if your EQ is back up, repeat the process. If your EQ is not fully back, do another day or 2 of normal newbie routine before hammering it again.

Hope that helps some.

Sorry to bring an old thread back but was hoping Firegoat would chime in here and regarding the above routine, I posted already in Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum (p. 35)

Sorry for the repost below but Would love to know where to go with PE now.

I have an upward curve and the cord runs along the middle, When stretching the penis the stretch is restricted by the cord and the shaft will stay plump.

Over the years I have gained nothing. I shrugged the cord off for a long time after reading this thread and now I believe the cord is the issue. Always been A big believer in Low force stretching/Extending over longer periods of time.

The only way I think it would be possible to gain is Fulcrum Extending, Hanging and Stretching As it takes the Cord out of the stretch but the issue that I think is possible is If you gain in the shaft but the Cord does not, Then the cord will pull as it did before but creating more of an upward curve.

Originally Posted by Sbik
Sorry to bring an old thread back but was hoping Firegoat would chime in here and regarding the above routine, I posted already in Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum (p. 35)

Sorry for the repost below but Would love to know where to go with PE now.

I have an upward curve and the cord runs along the middle, When stretching the penis the stretch is restricted by the cord and the shaft will stay plump.

Over the years I have gained nothing. I shrugged the cord off for a long time after reading this thread and now I believe the cord is the issue. Always been A big believer in Low force stretching/Extending over longer periods of time.

The only way I think it would be possible to gain is Fulcrum Extending, Hanging and Stretching As it takes the Cord out of the stretch but the issue that I think is possible is If you gain in the shaft but the Cord does not, Then the cord will pull as it did before but creating more of an upward curve.


Are you already using lots of heat?


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

What exactly do you mean by “lots of heat”

I have read this many times and this varies alot.
Some say air heater is fine, some say wash cloth or glass of hot water.
Others say IR lamp.. and so on.
So whats the optimal (and preferable cheap) way of heating?

I could search for it but Im too busy & lazy for it.
Sry :P


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

Perhaps I should really focus on heating it up to the point of almost burning it, bordering to it..

Earlier I have been warming up in the shower with glass of very hot water for 10 minutes (refreshing the water every 2.5 minutes for maximum temperature).
Nowadays I am just using an air heater. This might be a reason why my gains have slowed. Never really paid attention to it.. I always thought heat is heat..

So.. what do you say?


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

Avoid getting to the ‘burning it’ stage, as the penis is essentially meat; you don’t want to cook it :)

I know a few folk have extolled the virtues of hot air, but I don’t consider it a very effective or efficient way of heating. Moist heat and IR are the best for penetrating the tissues. IR seems harder to get hold of in the USA than in Europe, so my advice would be to get a microwaveable gel pack (hot and cold pack) from your local drug store or on line, experiment with the heating times until you find a temperature that you can stand for 5 minutes (to give the heat time to penetrate). Put the gel pack over some thin, damp material to thoroughly warm up before your routine. A good gel pack will hold its heat for quite a while, so you can stick it back on between exercises to warm up again.


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Thanks, Ill look into gel packs.

Im dropping the air/space heater and using glass of hot water for the time being until I get the gel packs.


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

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