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Bib's LOT Theory

Worried At First

Hey everybody, I am new to this. This is my first time writing anything on this site. I have been doing PE for only about a month, maybe 5 weeks, and have absorbed much information in regards every area this exercise. When I first stumbled across this theory it had me worried, I tested it out and my lot is past 9 o’clock. I believe it is just about straight down. And the way I interpreted this theory is that would mean my gains would come hard and slow. Well, so far I have been blown away with my gains. I can only hope they continue to come as they have so far. I started out 7 ⅜ BPEL and now I’m at 8⅛. Also my girth at mid was 5 and have gained a quarter inch. I’m not sure if base girth is ever used but that is 6½. Anyways I think you have a good theory here but just wanted to let guys know that it’s possible to gain if your lot is down low. Thanks guys

Yes, LOT theory has pretty much been discredited. I wouldn’t bother with learning anything about it.


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Lot

Hi,

I am new to the forum.

Interesting idea. But I do not understand fully.

What do I have to stretch when my LOT is from 8:00 to 6:00 downward? Do I go for tunica or for the ligs?

Originally Posted by Lerkh
Hi,

I am new to the forum.

Interesting idea. But I do not understand fully.

What do I have to stretch when my LOT is from 8:00 to 6:00 downward? Do I go for tunica or for the ligs?

I believe you want to go for the tunica, you always want to stretch against your LOT, in opposite direction.

But this theory is still not proven to be effective, so maybe will not have your desired effect. Good luck buddy anyway.


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It’s true that LOT theory probably has nothing to do with gains potential, but there is still some valuable information.

At or above the LOT angle, any length work will pull through the entire shaft. The forces are distributed all the way to the roots of the inner penis.

Below the LOT angle, the forces of any length work are absorbed by the ligs. Only the external shaft gets a workout, and the inner penis will receive little to no stress.

The LOT angle does change throughout one’s PE journey, particularly if that includes downward angle hanging. At least mine has.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
It’s true that LOT theory probably has nothing to do with gains potential, but there is still some valuable information.

At or above the LOT angle, any length work will pull through the entire shaft. The forces are distributed all the way to the roots of the inner penis.

Below the LOT angle, the forces of any length work are absorbed by the ligs. Only the external shaft gets a workout, and the inner penis will receive little to no stress.

The LOT angle does change throughout one’s PE journey, particularly if that includes downward angle hanging. At least mine has.

Evety stretch pull the entire shaft. When i stretch downward i feel the stress more in the shaft than the ligs and my LOT is high.
In every stretch we stress both the tunica and the ligs, but because the gains comes from tunica lengthening, we want the angle that targets the tunica better.

I cant understand that “inner penis” thing. I think that is an obsolete theory. If the penis grows because the tunica has the ability to grow, why we want to target the inner penis?

Every stretch most certainly does not pull the entire shaft. I could hang for weeks on end at a downward angle without feeling anything in the internal shaft. Then I could hang for 1 day at an upward angle and develop an intense soreness throughout the entire internal shaft.

Once again.

Below the LOT angle, the ligs absorb the stress and the inner shaft (i.e. that portion proximal to the suspensory ligament insertion zone) receives little to no stress. Any weight or stretch is essentially hanging off the external shaft, ligs, and pubic bone.

Above the LOT angle, the force is transmitted through the entire length of all the chambers all the way to roots of the penis in the perineum. The weight or stretch is going through both external and internal shaft, and is ultimately absorbed by the perineal muscle attachments at the roots of the penis.

It’s not a theory, it’s simple anatomy and physics.

The right question to ask is “why wouldn’t we want to target the inner penis?”

Or “why not do resistance kegels above the LOT angle?”

These concepts can be used to inform a successful PE regimen and selectively target growth in different areas of the penis.

Instead of shitting on Bib’s discovery just because one part of it was incorrect, think of how all the rest of it can be useful.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

It was just an example of one application of the LOT angle.

I wish I could do weighted kegels more often. It’s so good for sexual health. I’ve struggled to find a comfortable and convenient upward angle hanging attachment, and it’s just not the same to do manual resistance.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

Sitting over the leg and then some degree twist does it for me. Very convenient and “comfortable”.
I was very surprised about the access to the muscles and it changes a bit depending in which direction I bundle.

If you think about it one aim of the muscles down there is to keep the dick straight out. OTL challenges that.
Feels like something is out of the way otl bundled(ligs?)

But I guess depending on LOT this can be different for others..

Lot

So what do you guys do to stress the inner penis( or the tunica) ? I mean there are not so many exercises.

Grabing the shaft and streching from the glans with one hand to get a tight strech throuhg the whole penis.

A- strech?? But I do not feel like there is going on something when I do it.

Where are the Tunica All day strechers out there?

Seeking clarity on this?

What do people think of the LOT theory now ?

If I don’t actually lose tugback, what then ?

While the tugback is much stronger the higher the angle of my stretched penis, it maintains throughout the full range of stretched angles.

Does this imply tight ligaments with a greater potential for growth or is it irrelevant?

Originally Posted by Cdawggy
What do people think of the LOT theory now ?

Does the fact this thread has been dead for so long give you a clue 🙂


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Thanks, Great answer

Originally Posted by firegoat
Does the fact this thread has been dead for so long give you a clue 🙂

Appreciate the response.

I was doing a lot of forum surfing last night.

Very Confused

I’ve tried to make sense of this and still get confused. If someone can shed some light I’ll be very grateful. I have a small flaccid penis and it grows when erect so I’m more of a grower. My erection angle is at about 60 degrees. I lose tucback at around 6 o clock. Does that means I’ll gain more easy or less easy. Seems most of the time that my entire penis is inside my body.


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