Originally Posted by Renholder
Be careful Dino.Regarding clamping, I wanted to make a thread about this but I`m not allowed to do so.
The consensus on this board is to clamp while 100% erect, right?
Bib has a different approach with his ULI thing. He says that porn and erotic stimulation is completely unneccesary.
You just need a 30-50% erection if I remember correctly. The clue is to close outflow while providing inflow. Eventually the cock will expand far beyond 100%.
If you clamp a 100% erect cock, it is much harder to get expansion and it is also more dangerous.
Poorly explained by me perhaps, but I can write later as I think this is important.
What has been generally called “clamping” for several years isn’t specific.
Applying a clamping force to an existing erection may or may not be dangerous, but I doubt it would be effective for PE purposes.
Extreme Ulis are about establishing 100% engorgement in front of the device without being “erect” (though a little erection is needed to initially build the engorgement), then cinching the device down tight to provide even more pressure in the shaft. Think of inflating one of those long balloons to near its maximum pressure, and then squeeze it. Blood inflow and outflow are completely shut off. Sets shouldn’t exceed 10 minutes maximum. Anyone claiming to do EU’s for far longer and still has a penis doesn’t understand what they are.
Wrapping for girth is at the opposite end of the constriction extreme. It restricts the outflow of blood while still allowing some inflow. You’re putting a bottleneck on the outflow, so the pressure gradually builds within. No “erection” is required or wanted. In fact, becoming erect during a set screws up the delicate balance you’re trying to maintain.
By “erect” I mean the erectile mechanism at play — your body is trying to sport wood.
By “engorged” I mean full of blood and expanded in size, perhaps even with intense pressure within the shaft, without the erectile mechansism being involved.
I think many who are “clamping” mean various things in the middle of these. Some deliberately maintain an erection through the set. That’s not necessarily bad. Edging while wearing a cock ring is similar. A ring, wrap or clamp applying low-moderate constriction can boost pressure in the shaft while the erection is held.
The main problem with all of this is consistent terminology hasn’t been used to differentiate erection from engorgement. Renholder mentioned Bib referring to degree of erection. Erection was often used in the past to describe both. Keep that in mind as you read older material, and even new.
I have no desire to do Extreme Ulis again, but to better explain, here is how I did them:
I wrapped the base somewhat loosely with sweatshirt material while flaccid or near flaccid. Then I applied an approximately 1” wide strip of leather over that. A hose clamp was placed over the leather. At this point the attachment was fairly loose. I became slightly fluffed (very mild erection). I built pressure in front of the device by kegeling while pulling the EU setup rearward. Jelg the blood into the shaft. Had to be patient. I’d adjust the clamp tightness as necessary, gradually tightening a bit through the kegeling and jelqing. After several minutes of this I’d have a fully engorged and pressurized shaft and head in front of the device, yet no “erection” behind the clamp.
By this point, the pressure was already high. Then, the whammy: tighten the clamp. Using a socket wrench I’d tighten the hose clamp considerably more. I’d feel an internal aching/stinging sensation throughout my shaft with the pressure increase. Set the timer. I usually went around 8-9 minutes, less if the stinging grew too intense. Then I rested for a few minutes and repeated.
I want to reiterate that an intense program of EU’s did not produce gains for me, and I advise against it. Try using honey instead of vinegar.
