Originally Posted by pudendum
I totally agree that like any other protein, collagen has multiple interactions (covalent, van der Waals, electron) that bind individual collagen fibers to one another to form discrete collagen bundles. I am talking about collagen bundle cross-links and splay, not individual fibers.I dare say you will rip your penis off your body before you can apply enough force (energy) to break the covalent bonds between the collagen fibers. You could hang cars and you wouldn’t affect these bonds. You’ll rip the collagen bundles apart but not the fiber interactions.
IMO collagen bundle splay in one layer allows semi-independent PE work in the other (we know that hanging increases girth as well). The resistance and plateau we observe over time comes from increase in the collagen bundle diameter in the direction of our efforts and not from cross-links between the fibers running perpendicular in the other TA layer.
Hello Pudendum,
If you cannot apply sufficient force to break the covalent bonds, or to unbind individual strands of collagen by mechanical force, then would it not make sense to look for other methods that can be used to accomplish that goal?
If that is a reasonable conclusion, then looking at the methods that the body uses to repair collagen could be enlightening?
With the possibility that some people have three layers of collagen in the tunica, others two and still others only one, perhaps that is the reason that some gain better than others? If so, then would it not make sense to again look at how collagen is repaired and replaces to find the method of tissue remodeling?
Certainly in the area that I have been spending time the main factor was PGE-1. That has a number of disadvantages for the common PE user in that it can be dangerous and requires an injection into the penis. But DSMO is topically applied. It does give one bad breath, and a degree of body odor for a while, but perhaps some may not find that objectionable.
As with any PE method, validating a protocol is difficult, but in light of the challenges so well described in this thread, perhaps it may be worth looking into?