Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Risky - The chord you struck is unfortunately incorrect. Do some research here, as firegoat has written, in this thread alone and you will better understand the dorsal thickening and the type of bend that guys with it experience (and elsewhere in other threads as well). There is a difference between normal anatomy and pathological anatomy. Read post #205 in this thread where I describe the anatomy of Buck’s fascia which is the “dorsal thickening” discussed here and in many other threads. It is an investing (covering) layer that is not truly a part of the tunica. It runs the entire length of the top of the penis. When it is tight, compared with the ventral (down side of the tunica of the CC), when you become erect, it is the limiting factor and your penis will take on the gentle curve up that many of us have. That bend limits increased length and is why many of us concentrate so much on dealing with this normal anatomy. This curve runs the entire length of the penis. The tunica is normal.

Peyronie’s is pathological anatomy. The so called plaque in the tunica caused by either abnormal repair of a tunica injury by the body or it can be just spontaneous (idiopathic - love that word). The abnormal thickening can be anywhere along the tunica. It is a very localized (focal) restriction in the tunica itself. This causes a very acute abnormal bend in the direction of the plaque. The size, thickness and tensile strength of the plaque compared with rest of the tunica determines the degree of the bend and the location determines the bend.

Remember who writes wikipedia; readers and anyone can change it. I read threads in it with skepticism and then go to true source materials. Picture #1 you describe is very misleading. If a guy has a very tight dorsal thickening, the upward bend shown can look like this; but not commonly. Even though I am not a urologist, I have seen enough to know Peyronie’s disease when I see it. The bend can be any direction and depending on the factors I described, it can be less than subtle.

Like firegoat,this is just friendly advice.

I believe this is the reason for my penis curve. I can feel it down the right side of my penis. I also have a severe curve to the right which I always thought was Peyronie, but never felt any plaque , and now I’m thinking its this cord. I have two questions. Mine is so taught that I can hook underneath the cord with my fingers. Is it safe to hook it and stretch it? My other question is for anybody who gets lig pops do you only get it on the side of your cord? I find if I stretch to the left against the cord or straight down where I find it gives me the most tension is the only time I get log pops and only pops on my right side.

morbidangel - The cord that is being discussed here lies on the top (or dorsal) portion of the penis; not the side. It gives the classic upward bent to many men’s penis. Bucks fascia is thick here to protect nerves and blood vessels.

You describe a side bend which cannot be the result of Buck’s fascia (dorsal thickening). There is no way that you can get your finger under this dorsal thickening; it is closely invested to the tunica.

Side bends of the penis (if not the Pyronnie’s acute bend) is not abnormal. The “cord” you describe seems unusual. Without seeing it (and even if I did), I’m not sure what it is. It could be a scarred thrombosed vein. It could be anything. It is restricting the extension of your penis to a straight erection. Should you hook it and stretch it? ABSOLUTELY NOT, until you get it looked at by a urologist, which I am not (I don’t even play one on TV). Explain your bend and what you feel. Be honest and don’t let him (or her) say it’s nothing because it is to you…

I will not speak to ligament “pops.” I know that Thunder is not a fan of inducing or causing “pops.” I have one penis and I like it to work right. I don’t like pops in it. You should think about it in this light…

Thank you for the reply. I assume it is not a ligament as I thought the ligs are more on the inside. The cord I feel is very tough and takes most if not all the tension from stretching, and I can feel it all the way into my fat pad. When I stretch I’m not exaggerating when I say I can hook it, but if I keep pulling it straight it tends to line up more in the middle but eventually down towards the head on the side of my penis.

I can’t tell you what it is; definitely sounds different. It could be a “normal variant” as we call things in medicine, though it might be something else. If it is affecting your sex life or body image (or your desire to perform successful PE), then I would see a urologist or a sexual medicine specialist. Advice from this or other sites regarding specific personal medical issues requiring examination is worth what you pay for it - nothing. I wish you luck. Keep us posted…

So final point , what is the best exercise to attack this septum/ steel cord and make it softer so to increase length gains??

Hanging Straight up, using Fulcrum or extender?

No cross posting please.

WTF?

He means that you already posted the exact same question in the thread about septum and extenders in the extenders forum. This is aparently a no-no.

I gave you my answer over there though, so check it out.

Roots

Some days I’ll stretch really thin and long, but others I’ll retain my girth and stretch maybe a half inch shorter. What could this mean?

Are you using heat before these stretches?

Can I just upload a picture here so you could tell me if I have this or not, or is this against forum rules? When I stretch it out in flaccid state, it doesn’t get girthier but if I put my finger under and bend the penis I can see those two lines at the top of it.

I too am a hard gainer. Having read most of this thread I have been trying to figure out how to soften this so called chord. I have followed the advice in this forum about heat and have been using that, also about bending the chord when hanging or stretching.

I have an idea that I have been using and I think after a long time I may be getting gains. If any one else can try this and see if it makes a difference it would be appreciated because I do not know if this particular part of my routine is making that difference.

I can describe it like this. Look at your thumb where it joins your hand, when you bend it towards the middle of your hand you will see it forms a blunt point, this is important so bear with me.

So this is what I do, either partly engorged or fully flaccid start the normal jelqing movement but this time force the part of your thumb knuckle into the chord and twist your hand so your penis bends in a circle to the right with your right hand and ditto for the left. The idea behind this is that it basically massages the chord.

I do this 50 times and then a stretch routine, then every time between sets.

I hope I have expanded this well enough for some of you to understand.

Comments would be appreciated and if this helps some it would be great.

Ps I hope I have not stumbled across an old idea.

That’s basically an Orange Bend or O Bend, except O bends are usually thought of for stretching the tunica. It’s the first time I’ve heard them referred to specifically for the dorsal thickening. I use them quite a bit as part of girth routines, and with more longitudinal stretch added to the lateral force they become a very useful exercise for length and girth. :)