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Oh good shot firegoat.


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11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

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While ligaments are being discussed I have a question. I don’t hang, but do some rather basic stretches before and during jelqs. Is it “normal” to feel a stretch as far up the torso as just below the belly button? Is that how far up these go? No I am not pulling overly forcefully. I even notice it with Fowfers.


Current average: NBPEL 7(ish)" / MSEG: 5.25"

ST Goal : NBPEL: 7" / MSEG: 5.5"

LT Goal: NBPEL: 7.25" / MSEG: 6"

Originally Posted by wda628

While ligaments are being discussed I have a question. I don’t hang, but do some rather basic stretches before and during jelqs. Is it “normal” to feel a stretch as far up the torso as just below the belly button? Is that how far up these go? No I am not pulling overly forcefully. I even notice it with Fowfers.

The ligs themselves don’t go up that high, but the Rectus Abdominis and Linea Alba do, and being connected it is normal to feel the stretch that far up.

If you feel that the main stretch force seems to be falling there, place your non-stretching hand on your pubis and push slightly ‘inward and upward’, in effect stretching the opposite way, so that more of the stress is transferred back to the ligs you are trying to stretch. The ligs are stronger than the opposing force you can generate, as you have nothing to really grip onto, but it will help.


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Originally Posted by firegoat
The Fundiform ligament extends from the frontal sheath of the Rectus Abdominis and the Linea Alba, and splits into two bundles of fibres which wrap around the base; yes, they are attached to the fascial sheath of the penis, but whereas the fibres of the Suspensory ligament blend/weave fully into the fascia around the penis, the fibres of the Fundiform ligament run ‘across’ the fascia.

It’s difficult to explain! Yes, they are attached, but they are not homogeneous.

Why can’t the suspensory ligament be cut with a scope under a local antistatic then?

Just wondering.

Originally Posted by SteadyGains

Why can’t the suspensory ligament be cut with a scope under a local antistatic then?

Just wondering.

:confused:


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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Thanks Firegoat I will give that a shot, great help.

When stretching those ligs, or any penis stretching, if held for long enough can you feel it sort of “release” some of it’s tension? Similar to sitting on the ground stretching your hamstrings. That is a huge muscle and ligaments there. The first time you reach forward, you may only get to ankles. So you hold it, lean back and go for it again until you get closer and closer to your toes. Eventually, over time you can rest your face on your lap. Same principle or totally different due to the stricture?

Also, have any of you seen the special on Dr Drew show about penile enlargement? I think it’s the Discovery Health channel. It was of course mostly medically based, but did touch on the penile anatomy, ligs, post surgery stretching and hanging, and pumps. Even referenced that erections are actually not a flexing of the areas “muscles” but actually a relaxing of the muscles. Also showed medical diagram of penis and the various chambers and make-up. I will have to re watch it, but I swore the voice made it sound as if it was primarily muscle. Very interesting.


Current average: NBPEL 7(ish)" / MSEG: 5.25"

ST Goal : NBPEL: 7" / MSEG: 5.5"

LT Goal: NBPEL: 7.25" / MSEG: 6"

Originally Posted by wda628

When stretching those ligs, or any penis stretching, if held for long enough can you feel it sort of “release” some of it’s tension? Similar to sitting on the ground stretching your hamstrings. That is a huge muscle and ligaments there. The first time you reach forward, you may only get to ankles. So you hold it, lean back and go for it again until you get closer and closer to your toes. Eventually, over time you can rest your face on your lap. Same principle or totally different due to the stricture?

You do get that sort of ‘release’ feeling if you are not stretching too hard to begin with. I talked a bit about it here: /forum/showthread.php?p=1189877#post1189877

Stretching hamstrings is slightly different, as you are primarily stretching muscle and very secondarily, the tendons. Unless you are a ballet dancer or gymnast, you don’t want to stretch the ligaments or you will destabilize the joints. They do stretch the ligs to some degree to give them their range of movement, then they have to keep their muscles strong for life to assist their lax ligs in stabilization. They achieve their lig stretching the same way we do in PE; by consistent, regular stretches, held for the optimum time at the correct level of force, as discussed in the link above.


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Originally Posted by firegoat
:confused:

I guess I have had too many surgeris. I completely severed the long head of the bicep and continued to play a game of pick up basketball. How bad could it be to cut the suspensory ligament?

Originally Posted by SteadyGains

I guess I have had too many surgeris. I completely severed the long head of the bicep and continued to play a game of pick up basketball. How bad could it be to cut the suspensory ligament?

That is what they do during lengthening surgery. But not under a ‘local antistatic!:)


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Originally Posted by firegoat
That is what they do during lengthening surgery. But not under a ‘local antistatic!:)

They use a scope? I was thinking it would be a very minor surgery just to snipt the ligament. Not true?

Originally Posted by SteadyGains

They use a scope? I was thinking it would be a very minor surgery just to snipt the ligament. Not true?

Anaesthetic :) .


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

Duhl! I have agree I don’t think they would do any surgery on “local anti-static”. He gotch-ya firegoat :rolling:

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09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Originally Posted by man-of-10

Anaesthetic :) .

Indeed!

The only time we use ‘-scope’ or ‘-scopy’, in the UK is in such compound words as ‘arthroscopy’, as in ‘to look inside a joint’.

-scopy or -scope is a suffix derived from the Latin ‘scopium’, denoting ‘an instrument which is used for the purposes of viewing’, as in microscope, telescope, etc. It in turn derives from the Greek ‘skopien’ - to examine.

Alongside an endoscope, an attached instrument of some kind may be introduced for the purpose of performing surgery, biopsy etc.

However, the idea of a blade anywhere in the vicinity of my penis is a most unappealing thought! I may be perfectly happy daily dealing with other peoples blood, and sometimes my own, but deliberate damage to my bodily structures (especially ‘down there’) does not bear thinking about.


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

I had an arthroscopic procedure two weeks ago on the ol’ shoulder. They told me I would need to keep my arm in a sling for 6 weeks; by day 10 I had absolutely no need for it. In fact, wearing it brought on mild discomfort :rolleyes: .


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

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