Hey guys, I don’t mean to rain on your parade, well maybe I do. I also hope I’m wrong and this works for all of you who have done this. But this p-shot stinks like overmarketed BS to me. Really badly. In a some “doctor” wanna-be just jacked 2 grand from you kind of way. What a waste of medical school, attach some leeches while you’re at it.
The price tag rings my alarm bells immediately:
Even if it does work, why does it cost 2 grand to take some blood, centrifuge it, and reinject it? No, that would cost about 200.
Why are doctors administering the treatment?
If you’re talking about taking blood, operating a centrifuge, and doing an injection in a noncritical situation, those are 3 things that you don’t even need to be a doctor to do. A nurse or phlebotomist would typically take care of those actions in a hospital.
Can only do it once every 1-2 months:
Why? Because that’s how long this PRP plasma is working for? Unlikely. People wait 8 weeks between donating blood because it takes time for the body to replenish the red blood cells. They are just covering their asses on how often it can be done.
Half life of growth factors in vivo:
Under 24 hours. I’ll admit I’m not an expert on this, but I took a fair bit of undergrad chem and bio. All this supposedly concentrated growth factors, hormones, and so on in this shot… it’s reabsorbed or cleared out in a few days tops. Bodybuilders and athletes who are supplementing these growth factors are doing it multiple times per day, not once every 2 months.
They pay for their own studies:
Red flag. All the independent studies on this show no evidence that it works. But the guys who came up with it pay for their own studies so they can say it does anyway.
Injecting the corpora is dangerous:
Not extremely so, but men with ED later in life who use injectibles for erections run a constant risk of developing Peyronie’s disease. The tiny sinusoidal structures in the penis get damaged by needles. Regular injections into the penis run about 5-10% risk of Peyronie’s.
The conversion ratio and blood volume:
60 cc’s of blood are centrifuged down to 10 cc’s of PRP. By comparison, the amount of blood in an average sized erection is somewhere around 80-250 cc’s depending on size. I’m having trouble remember the exact numbers from Janus’ thread, but I want to say there is something like 50-100 ml of bloodflow per minute through the pudendal artery. My point is the penis tissues are getting plenty of platelets and plasma all day long every day. There’s nothing magical about re-injecting a 6 to 1 ratio of plasma back in.
Having to pump and success rates:
They say they have a 60% success rate. But they’re also getting guys to pump 20 minutes a day many of which have never done PE before and who turn to 2000 dollar quick fixes rather than doing real work. So if you take out those who never pumped before what does that success rate drop to?
Improved sensitivity and better EQ:
Stoking the placebo effect?
10 cc’s = 0.61 cubic inches. There’s a more plausible (temporary) volume gain explanation.
It really chaps my ass that you’re promoting injecting your own blood back into your penis for 1500 bucks after banning Janus for promoting the idea of manually increasing blood flow through the penis for free. Maybe he wasn’t so different from us after all. Maybe on a forum for discussion of PE methods we shouldn’t ban people for discussing PE methods, even if they are new and different. A long time ago people were allowed to just throw out ideas here and see what stuck to the wall. And if somebody disagreed with them they posted their reasons why and then went on their way, with no mental complex. They were even allowed to make ridiculous claims about their size gains anonymously, and other posters were able to anonymously discount their anonymity. Real bro science for free, brilliant! Where’s trumpbot JB right now to defend us all from the danger by telling us you can’t PRP into the back of your hand and develop a super powered punching fist? Or that blood injections don’t cause tissue growth, tissue growth causes blood injections? Is PRP safer than vitamin D supplementation? Where are your disclaimers? Do I need a doctor administer my vitamin D pills and how much will it cost? If I think PRP works but traditional PE does not, will I be banned for it?
Just joking, the hypocrisy and irony was irresistible though.
It is good that somebody is testing PRP, as it is being held out there as a viable form of PE. But in my opinion anyone reading this should save their cash. You could get a lifetime of PE equipment for that price, two lifetimes worth. TG has already got his gains by real hard work and not a quick fix, and he’s just testing this out for the hell of it. Maybe PRP will be the golden ticket but if you’re not in the 10+ cubic inches gains club yet, I’d let other people test it out and use the tried and true methods instead.
Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"