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Rethinking how much size matters to women

Originally Posted by Titleist
I believe most women prefer a hard penis over its overall size.

Always considering it is hard


BPEL: 19,4 cm

EG: 14,6 cm

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Originally Posted by djrobins
True, there are some enormous vaginas out there, not soo common, but they exist. It would take a titleist or shane deisel to even achieve “friction” on one of those “huge vaginas”.

Having a larger cock won’t increase your “cock confidence”, you already have it in the sexual mastery that your are providing with your 5.75” unit. What it does have the capability to do is cause you to over think your cock. Try to think as you do today, because some guys start thinking too much about their cocks as they grow.


I agree, skill is important. The only thing I can get rage about is a general hysteria of many men, that they NEED, they HAVE TO have a big cock (whatever that means) and a lot of insecurity in their minds regarding sexuality. I see tons of ADS - make your dick bigger, she likes big dicks ect. Like it was just only a dick size which is most important during a sexual encounter. Where are ADS about vagina tightening? Such things are being done too..
Then I read on various forums silly posts of crying men that their pack is only “average” and not horse size. They ask 10 times if their average penis (average according to the general stats) would be enough for a girl, they strive for a bigger cock seeing there the one and only holy grail of all good what can happen in sex.
All that crap sit in their heads and it’s been there due to general skewed point of the hmmmm.. Sexuality? That it is only a man who needs to be the best. He must be fit, has to have a big dick ect. Even if she is naturally bigger down there then it is generally accepted fault of a man if there is no enough of tightness. Not a woman. The circle ends and people come to ask for a big cock as a solution for their mind problems.
PE is nice and doing it due to curiosity, better erection is ok. But doing it because of terrible lack of certainty in bed is quite wrong as the problem lies mostly in the head.
I put here away any tiny dicks much below average as it may be understandable to perform PE :p

Originally Posted by Titleist
I believe most women prefer a hard penis over its overall size.

This…

I’m only now, after about 4 years of PE approaching “average” girth. I’m 4.5 in MEG and around 6¾in to 6 ⅞in BPEL. It fluctuates really, probably because I only focus on girth work.

Anyway, on to my point. I get very hard and being hard is very helpful for working the angles with a smaller cock.

I used to fist my wife occasionally. My fist circumference at the widest part around my knuckles is somewhere around 10 to 11 inches. My wife loved when I would pound on her after fisting her. She would be looser but feel so soft and pillowy.

I think if I stuck it in half hard after it wouldn’t have the same effect.

Hard is definitely important. If it is someone you care about, being close and intimate is also a factor in how much pleasure you can give her. It’s not always about wham bam thank you ma’am.

To some it may sound corny but the connection you make when you’re inside of her is very nice. For some women, it doesn’t take a massive amount of movement to get her off.

Be confident and deliberate when you take her even if your movements inside her are small ones. Don’t be afraid to let her know how much you are enjoying her by moaning or telling her how sweet she feels.

There are so many factors to a womans arousal also. If you are only giving her dick that’s one thing.

If you’re giving her dick and kissing her lips, ears, neck, shoulders, nipples or anywhere really, smelling her armpits (if you’re into the way your lady smells), moving your hands over the parts of her body you enjoy or places you know she enjoys, you’ll be giving her alot more stimulation that moves her closer to orgasm.

Good sex is not just about how your dick moves in or fills up her pussy or ass.
For most women, if you’re a good lover, your dick size really isn’t a factor

Let go of the dick ego bros!

Sex isn’t just physical pleasure it’s also psychological pleasure .

A big penis brings a lot of psychological pleasure to a woman; trust me i would know.

What brought me to thunder place is my multiple rejections for not having a big penis .

I’m 6’3, African American , muscular and handsome but not having the big penis has hurt my sex appeal.

It seems due to porn a lot of women anticipate a large penis when dealing with black males.

I’m 7.5-8bpel and my gains have been slow so I have a lot of work to do.


Starting BPEL 8.0 9/19

2/20 8.25 BPEL

Goal BPEL 9.0

If we’re just talking about the penis, I would say that probably stamina is the biggest factor. Being able to go long enough for her to get there or even just to give it a good enough pounding.


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

Originally Posted by gainsaddict
Sex isn’t just physical pleasure it’s also psychological pleasure .

A big penis brings a lot of psychological pleasure to a woman; trust me i would know.

What brought me to thunder place is my multiple rejections for not having a big penis .

I’m 6’3, African American , muscular and handsome but not having the big penis has hurt my sex appeal.

It seems due to porn a lot of women anticipate a large penis when dealing with black males.

I’m 7.5-8bpel and my gains have been slow so I have a lot of work to do.

8.0BPEL is small? Do you have a 1.5” or worse fat pad?

Originally Posted by gainsaddict
Sex isn’t just physical pleasure it’s also psychological pleasure .

A big penis brings a lot of psychological pleasure to a woman; trust me i would know.

What brought me to thunder place is my multiple rejections for not having a big penis .

I’m 6’3, African American , muscular and handsome but not having the big penis has hurt my sex appeal.

It seems due to porn a lot of women anticipate a large penis when dealing with black males.

I’m 7.5-8bpel and my gains have been slow so I have a lot of work to do.

You’re dating the wrong women.
The women you describe are fetishizing you because of your race and the stereotype associated with it.

Also, at 7.5-8in BPEL, you already ARE porn size.


STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in EG: 5.0in

2018: BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

NOW (start 1/2024): BPEL: 6.9in. EG: 5.4in

I think that porn along with the handful of well hung guys that get passed around have warped a lot of [young] women’s minds. I have seen how these guys sleep with the whole group of friends sometimes, so that they each can have bragging rights of having had a 9”+ schlong and/or for the occasional pounding. I’ve seen two sisters share the same guy just because he was hung. She literally called her sister and told her that she has to sleep with him because he’s so big.

So I too have had to come to terms with the idea that the statistical average is valid (regardless of race). There are some outliers in each group but largely accurate.

I think a little bit of observation helps too. The most common size dildos have insertable lengths of 6” - 8”. The mythical 8” x 6” is one of the most common sizes for dildos purchased. This is not only backed up by online data, but also just by visiting a few stores and seeing the most widely stocked size. If most guys were already 8” x 6” or larger, I would think that women either wouldn’t need toys or opt for bigger ones. Why buy what you have?

Also, if many guys were 9”+, why would women share them, they would be nothing special. But as I’ve mentioned, it’s so rare that two sisters will share.


Start: BPEL: 7” MSEG: 5" | Current: BPEL: 8.25” MSEG: 5.75" | Goal: BPEL: 8.5” MSEG: 6"

1st Goal: 7.5" x 5.5" | Achieved: 01/15/2021 | 2nd Goal: 8.25 x 5.75 | Achieved: 05/19/2021

Progress Pics: Road to 8x6 | My Log: Daros PE Notes and Progress Reports | Routine: Hanging with FIRe

Interestingly enough, lately I have been asking women I date and enjoy watching porn, “what do you like to watch? what type of porn” And they ALL answer “I like to see a guy with a massive dick fucking a girl hard because I think its me”

So as we have determined before already in multiple forums, multiple threads, from some time ago, but today more than ever before, porn is pure evil. It does not provide any benefit to society. Some might argue it helps in some aspect, but the bad outweighs the good. We are all desensitized. First it was us, today its women too. Suddenly, 10 inches is the norm for them. By watching those videos of women completely filled up and stretched out having explosive orgasms, of course, they want that too.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Interestingly enough, lately I have been asking women I date and enjoy watching porn, “what do you like to watch? what type of porn” And they ALL answer “I like to see a guy with a massive dick fucking a girl hard because I think its me”

So as we have determined before already in multiple forums, multiple threads, from some time ago, but today more than ever before, porn is pure evil. It does not provide any benefit to society. Some might argue it helps in some aspect, but the bad outweighs the good. We are all desensitized. First it was us, today its women too. Suddenly, 10 inches is the norm for them. By watching those videos of women completely filled up and stretched out having explosive orgasms, of course, they want that too.

Sorry to ask nothing to do with the subject but how much time i took you to have your gains, and what it comes from principally ?
I tried to read your thread but english is not my main language so it is a bit complicated for me.


2018 16cm12cm11cm >> 2022 17.5cm13.5cm12.5cm >> 2024 17.5cm14cm12.5cm (BPEL/MSEG/BEG)

Mockery can gives you unfailing faith in yourself.

Originally Posted by igigi
Interestingly enough, lately I have been asking women I date and enjoy watching porn, “what do you like to watch? what type of porn” And they ALL answer “I like to see a guy with a massive dick fucking a girl hard because I think its me”

So as we have determined before already in multiple forums, multiple threads, from some time ago, but today more than ever before, porn is pure evil. It does not provide any benefit to society. Some might argue it helps in some aspect, but the bad outweighs the good. We are all desensitized. First it was us, today its women too. Suddenly, 10 inches is the norm for them. By watching those videos of women completely filled up and stretched out having explosive orgasms, of course, they want that too.

If you hear some of the performers talk behind the scenes they will indicate that alot of it is “acting”. Some of the actresses indicate that in their personal life they won’t even deal with some of the larger sizes which are used at work.

Originally Posted by charliehancle10

Based on my research here on the forum, I have believed that the mythical 8x6 is ideal for most women. This discussion is far from over, but I prefer to believe my conclusion.

Based on my practical experience in the bedroom, I believe that the average penis is ideal for most women. ;)


Starting Stats: BPEL 7.0¨ x MEG 5.3¨ (4th Nov 2015)

Current Stats: BPEL 7.83¨ x MEG 5.6¨ (14th June 2018)

The Dream: BPEL 8.1¨ x EG 6.1¨ (Not sure if the wife supports ¨the dream¨)

Originally Posted by djrobins
If you hear some of the performers talk behind the scenes they will indicate that alot of it is “acting”. Some of the actresses indicate that in their personal life they won’t even deal with some of the larger sizes which are used at work.

The problem is also that the male pornstars lie. Average male pornstar size is only about 6.7 inches NBPEL maybe.
If you ask the female performers “what size do you prefer” of course they will say 8 inches. Because the guy with 6.7 says he has 8. So she will connect his penis to the size 8.
However, if you ask them which pornstar has the perfect cock, they may say Johnny Sins or Ramon NOmar etc.
Sins is 7 Inches NBPEL and rather thin and Ramon below 7 inches NBPEL.
So, ask them what guy they prefer not the number for accuracy.
We can all agree that the “perfect” size is above average. But it is less than you think.
IMO 6.75 inches NBPEL x 5.5 is more than enough.
If you are >7 Inches NBPEL and still worried about length, you are delusional IMO.
Maybe it is also that I live in a very decent country and the people are a bit less crazy here.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[currently decon until aug 2024] latest BFPSL: 21.2cm (8.35 inches) latest BPEL: 19.5cm (7,68 inches) latest NBPEL: 17cm (6.69 inches)

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Originally Posted by djrobins
8.0BPEL is small? Do you have a 1.5” or worse fat pad?

I have a slight fat pad but I look like a NFL linebacker so that makes my penis look pretty small in comparison.

The correct answer is 8BPEL doesn’t look big on my body.


Starting BPEL 8.0 9/19

2/20 8.25 BPEL

Goal BPEL 9.0

Originally Posted by richardfitswell
You’re dating the wrong women.
The women you describe are fetishizing you because of your race and the stereotype associated with it.

Also, at 7.5-8in BPEL, you already ARE porn size.

True statement, fetishization is correct.


Starting BPEL 8.0 9/19

2/20 8.25 BPEL

Goal BPEL 9.0

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