Originally Posted by plaidshirt
Ok marinera I have been doing A-stretches over a fulcrum that is 8 5/8 in circumference and 2 11/16 in diameter since Oct 23rd - Nov 14 averaging about 12min a day , I took a break from Nov 14th -Nov 26 , from Nov 26 to Dec 11th I’m averaging about 20 min a day . This is what i noticed or learned . I might want to add i took a 2 week break before i did any fulcrum stretches. I was doing light to heavy clamping before this and getting good expansion . but during the first break before doing any fulcrum stretches my penis was shrinking girth wise like it was loosing fluid or inflammation i cant tell, when i would get an erection the cc didn’t seem as thick so whatever lose i would experience would bounce back when i would start up clamping again , this time i started fulcrum stretches , my flaccid was hanging longer and skinnier seemed like right at the start well a couple weeks went by and me and the wife were about to fuck and i notice my penis feels different, my girth number mid-shaft or behind head has not changed but this time the cc feels bigger I’m still at 5 1/8 mid shaft , which was a nice surprise , now i have also noticed my base girth is the same but feels less spongy on the underside but thicker feeling a true thicker still 5 3/4 same spot . Now it seems like the response has slowed but my flaccid hang don’t hang as low as it originally did in the beginning but more than it did before i started doing A-stretches. This has been my experience so far. Any advice?
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I’m not ENS so I’m not sure I understand everything here. Are you saying that fulcrum stretches were useful to ‘stabilize’ the girth you got from clamping? I think a lot of the girth you get from clamping is interstitial fluid build up, not just in the skin but between the skin and the tunica albuginea, so you are temped to say it is ‘real’ gains; and if you are consistent enough this fluid build up never clear, so you can believe it is ‘permanent’ growth; but actually a lot of that will disappear if you take a long break. The same happens with pumping. Also, clamping and pumping inflates CS, which add to the girth expansion, but it is temporary as well.
So if you are getting the same expansion without doing clamping, that is a great new, because stretch doesn’t create fluid build up and the expansion you get should due to real tunica enlargement. Stretching is great actually to reduce fluid build up. You should notice the difference because your penis would feel harder, compared to post- clamping expansion. Also width should increase more, compared.
Now, the other point : fulcurm stretch doesn’t look that effective anymore. Ok, that is what happens with about any exercises, at a faster or lower rate. The options that I see are: a) you stop doing them for a while, and go back to clamping or other techniques; b) you add clamping to the fulcrum stretches and see if there is a synergistic effect; If you are after girth, the best companion would be dry jelqs, but this is a strictly personal opinion; c) you stay on this routine for a while and see if it gives some more gains; not necessarily what you see right after a PE session is an indicator of what you will get in the long run. Rember real girth gains are really hard and slow to achieve.
About the last question: it hanged lower and fatter, or just lower? And lower you mean the flaccid length was increased? Generally hanging lower is something that you get when you stretch the ligs; depending on how you perform the stretches, you could have noticed that you can place stress in different area of the penis; maybe first times you were targeting more the ligs, pulling your fulcrum more near your body.
Edit: of course, if I have misunderstood, try asking again, taking spaces and explaining in more simple words. :)