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Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

Originally Posted by galander
Is there any know/how for using it directly into penis? Should I use some sort of material between the pad and the skin of the penis?

All of the clear plastics used for pump tubes are ~95% transparent to NIR as well. I wrapped my flexible NIR pad around my pump tube and use it while pumping.

The pad I have doesn’t generate much heat; it just barely gets warm to the touch.

Originally Posted by Itouchedyou69
I am he. I found out through support that I have not been reaching a consistent 39-42c with the app.

Rather reaching temps I can easily get thru the Fir pad. It’ll be a learning curve.

Still unsure if I want to use such temps as a warmup to my interval pumping, Phalback style.

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Originally Posted by AndyJ
All of the clear plastics used for pump tubes are ~95% transparent to NIR as well. I wrapped my flexible NIR pad around my pump tube and use it while pumping.

The pad I have doesn’t generate much heat; it just barely gets warm to the touch.

Would it still penetrate through the plastic? NIR doesn’t penetrate much . Do you include fir as well?

I had never heard of shockwave before, thanks for the clear explanation 32quarters.

Also, Itouchedyou69 you might find this comparison useful.

NIR (Near-Infrared Radiation):
-Wavelength: 700–1400 nm.
-Penetration Depth: Typically 2–4 cm in soft tissue under optimal conditions.
-Mechanism: NIR interacts less with water and is absorbed more by chromophores like hemoglobin and cytochromes, allowing deeper penetration. It’s commonly used for photobiomodulation, imaging, and therapeutic applications.

FIR (Far-Infrared Radiation):
-Wavelength: 15–1000 µm (commonly 3–100 µm in therapeutic devices).
-Penetration Depth: Generally up to 0.1–0.2 cm (a few millimeters).
-Mechanism: FIR is strongly absorbed by water molecules in the skin and subcutaneous tissue, resulting in surface heating rather than deep tissue penetration.

Key Points:
-NIR penetrates deeper than FIR due to its shorter wavelength and reduced interaction with water.
-FIR is more surface-focused, promoting superficial heating and improving circulation at shallow depths.


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I’ve now been on RED/NIR for about a year now 30 min a day everyother day or so and no issues. I feel bad that Solvay never came back here, he has helped so many of us!

Originally Posted by Tutt
In short, yes, you did limit yourself by doing long periods of unheated hanging and clamping. This is not a speculation at this point. Literally every piece of pertinent literature on tissue behavior confirms this.

The good news is that it is only temporary. When you or anyone else is in this situation, simply quit pulling on, pumping, or jelqing your penis. Within 3-4 weeks, the elasticity of the TA returns closer to baseline. Within 6 months the tissue density mostly returns to normal. And a year later most everything will likely be similar to where it was before you started, in terms of tissue propensity to deformation. The remaining wild card is whether the body builds a more sensitive trigger which is not uncommon for bodily function. For example, it is not uncommon for a mild allergy to turn into a severe allergy upon repeat exposure. Likewise, a mild exposure to a virus can be used to trigger a systemic immunity to later infection. It is very possible that once a ligament has toughened, the condition is triggered more quickly at lower stress in the future. So upon returning, you really want to be extra careful to avoid triggering a toughening response again.

However, the reason that I remain skeptical of this hypersensitivity theory is the propensity for dislocated joints to remain prone to future dislocation. Unlike tendons, after some type of deforming event, ligaments seem to be fine reverting back to their baseline tissue character without returning to their baseline shape. Tendons seem prone to permanently fortifying themselves after deformation. I’m optimistic that given enough time, the TA would fully revert to its baseline character. I should note, however, that this doesn’t mean the BPEL or EG would not reduce during a very long decon. However there are minor things that I suspect may help to mitigate this.

1) Low intensity red light therapy. Nothing that will heat the structure though.
2) Edging daily, preferably without the use of porn. Just your imagination is best and be gentle and slow. You want a full erection and good blood flow but no ejaculation. This will also help maintain EQ throughout your older years.
3) Go commando if you can and wear loose pants. Just allow everything to hang. Another technique is to wear briefs or boxer briefs but pull your penis and scrotum completely out through the fly. Depending on the construction, you may have to clip some stitching so that it isn’t choking or chafing.
4) Avoid sitting for prolonged periods or with a posture that causes your pants to ride up and secure your penis tightly, thus holding the TA in a retracted state.
5) If you have the willpower with your girl, don’t ejaculate every time you have sex. Get yourself right to the edge multiple times during the session and make sure she’s fullfilled, but only allow yourself to orgasm once a week or so. You’ll notice that your flaccid is generally much more full and heavy.

Right now, I’m researching a topical cream that can very likely both delay the TA toughening in the first place as well as de-toughen it after the damage has been done. Unfortunately, I have no intention of jumping through FDA hoops and taking it commercial. So, it’s very unlikely that it becomes commercially available in the near future. However, if I can satisfy myself that it’s safe, I wouldn’t be against sharing the details here so people can self-experiment. At present, the compounds used to make it are also quite expensive. Imagine a small tube of cream costing around $600 and maybe only lasting a few months.

Hi Tutt, could you please share the cream you are referring to here or how to make it and source the materials? I’m interested because I was going to start a strain extender ultrasound routine, I’ve already acquired the extender and everything else. I haven’t done any PE in 3+ years and was planning on following your methodology for length and documenting everything (starting around 7” BPEL). Would love to test out the cream as well as that sounds like it would help massively. Could you share via here or DM? Thank you so much.

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