Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

I would hit two birds with one stone for sure. Aim it at the hip and D. I aim it at my stomach, there is a theory alongside working out that it could reduce fat but what we all need is fat pad reduction. This is just a theory at the moment.

MOSRED looks like a great option for a standing light and also pads.

I tried this FIR pad wrapped around my unit for about 15 minutes on max settings (and had to stop)
https://www.ama … /dp/B00P7CPKDI/
^ this pad is one I found based on the hanging with FIRE thread

It felt like my dick was being cooked at the 15 minute mark & felt a little pain & immediately removed the FIR wrap; I think all the plastic with the stealthformen setup amplifies the heat (glans rubber cap + sabreskin (fully covers shaft) + gel receptacle (3.5") + hard plastic cap on top of glans)… Some wrestlers get the same effect when they go into a sauna to cut weight (and wear trash bags).

i.e. with my vac hanger setup there’s up to 3 layers of rubber (although in this context I’m only using it as ADS). It was far more effective at creating penetrating heat right into the center of my shaft (vs Rice Socks or my air heater). I’m going to try FIR for at least a month & see how it does.

I ordered the NIR pad in this thread from amazon here:
https://www.ama … /dp/B0BTRXLHBL/

I’m going to try this NIR pad next (for a month) & see if I can tell improvement with NIR pad vs FIR pad.

That’s the reason this thread was created, to show that NIR + RED should be in theory better than FIR, is that what they are doing with hanging with FIRe? I thought they were using RED + NIR pads, sorry to hear about your issue with FIR

I’ve tried NIR + FIR both for weeks now — and I’m sold that the effects are nothing short of amazing. No PE gains to report yet (it’s only been a couple weeks), but I do have an old hip injury that wouldn’t heal for 5 months and was even getting worse (I was on crutches) and just a few days of NIR + FIR & I’m doing great / walking, able to work out & not on crutches anymore.

The NIR pad made the extreme pain in my hip go away with the first 20 minute use (850nm + max output on the device I was using), and using FIR too is having no negative effects. After 12 hours my hip would start to hurt again… another 20 minutes & the pain would go away. I read some research that shows healing is 50% faster with NIR type therapy & it can even have extermely positive cardiovascular effects.

I’ve also got a very old back injury & oberved NIR + FIR is having an incredible positive healing effect on my back… Penile tissue isn’t all that different from other tissue, and I believe I am observing faster healing there too. I’ll keep tracking progress & share whether I see improved gains.

Congrats on finding something that is helping your overall wellness. Now you can give your partner that nice grind!

PE gains are still subject to more testing.

Things we know for sure:
- Healing
- Quicken Heat/ Warm-up
- Weight loss

Things that are still in development and we may not know until 2025 and after:
- Does this shorten the time needed in PE per session? Making a 1/2 hour hang with heat equal to 1 hour no heat.
- Does this help with elongating stretch needed in PE?
- Does this lessen discoloration in some?

the NIR/ FIR combined has been so effective for me, I went ahead & got full body mats for both. i’m getting incredibly good effects from this, doing it sometimes twice per day

observation: overall healing is faster with these devices

There is also a theory that it might shorten the hang time needed. So an example is that if it takes you 1 hour to hang and get the workout you want, using NIR + RED you can get there in less time. This is a theory but worth looking into. It is not saying that RED + NIR will make you longer but that the time it takes may lessen. That in addition to the healing and "stretch" feeling it gives you.

At what time in the video does this take place?

Great thread, thanks for sharing the interesting data on NIR. Couldn’t help but try it on myself!

I used a Beuret IL 60 300W IR lamp (https://res.clo udinary.com/beu … 253c0824b2c.pdf )

It is good for 3200W/m2 and irradiates in the 780-3000nm range.

I used a k-type dual channel thermometer to take an urethral (6cm insertion) and a distal shaft measure. The first fifteen minutes are 15cm in front of the lamp, and the following during a cool down.

Here are the results:

T (min) Urethral Distal
Heat 0 33.1 33.1
Heat 5 33.6 32.7
Heat 10 35.6 33.5
Heat 15 37.2 34.3
Cooldown 1 37.4 34.2
Cooldown 2 37.6 34.4
Cooldown 3 39.2 34.7
Cooldown 4 38.2 34.7
Cooldown 5 37.7 34.6
Cooldown 6 37.4 35.1
Cooldown 7 36.7 34.6
Cooldown 8 36.4 34.8
Cooldown 9 36.4 33.8
Cooldown 10 36.1 33.8

What I do not understand is why the temperature measurement kept increasing after the end of the 15 minutes heating!

Also, I would like to hear if this device is theoretically effective for the Hanging NIR protocol, give its emitted wavelength range?

Very interesting post FireBrande! Thanks for taking the long 6cm step most couldn’t stomach. Have you attempted measuring again? Particularly if you’re capable of reaching 41C, that would cause a bit of a stir.

I would speculate the continued temp increase would be from deep structures being cooled by blood, but I am not one of the penis anatomy experts around the site.

Are you absolutely sure you have not mixed the temperature readings?
It could possible the distal temp rising instead of the intra urethral.

I have a guess. Post heating, blood circulation redistributes the heat internally, moving it from the heated superficial layers to deeper tissues. The tunica and penile tissue might absorb and then transfer heat inward towards the urethra, explaining the delayed temperature peak in urethral readings. Also there is a lag between external heating and the corresponding rise in temperature in deeper tissues. Might be due to the time required for heat to conduct through tissue layers. 3 Minutes for the Urethrea to start cooling down due to this effect also fits it.
Also; the distal shaft shows a quicker cool-down which fits. Direct exposure to air and less deep tissue heat retention compared to the urethrea.

Amazing Experiment. As I understand the Beurer is without LED. So probably more direct heat from the bulb? How hot did the skin feel that is exposed to the lamp?
I’m pretty sure you could reach even higher temperatures depending on the setup.

Solvay1927, or any other expert on this topic.
The arrays we got available seem lackluster. Mine broke.

What are the best LED to use for this? Or something like the Beurer?
There must be an LED array or diode that is great for the purpose and not the heating pad type products.

Hi all,

Newbie and first poster here. Has anybody used the EMR-TEK Firewave Red & NIR device? It has a 850 nm NIR bulb in the middle, but doesn’t go directly on the skin it is supposed to be about 6-12in away from your body. Is this as effective as a pad like mentioned in this thread?

Just wanted to see if anyone has any thoughts or experience with this specific device or anything similar. Thanks y’all

I bought this one and like it. It gives good feelings to my unit and increases blood flow, or at least seems like it. It helped bring back my EQ.