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Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

I punched the numbers I got for the above LED into GPT and it gives me:

""with a color temperature of 850nm, a power of 10W, a forward voltage of 6V, a forward current of 900mA, and an emission angle of 120°, the irradiance of the LED lamp is approximately 883 mW/cm^2"

Originally Posted by BDAgenda
I punched the numbers I got for the above LED into GPT and it gives me:
""with a color temperature of 850nm, a power of 10W, a forward voltage of 6V, a forward current of 900mA, and an emission angle of 120°, the irradiance of the LED lamp is approximately 883 mW/cm^2"

Best of luck. I didn’t check the numbers above due to lack of time at the moment, but a word of caution. GPT is good at many things, but is uniquely bad at math and physics. Just a caution to double check everything that GPT does where math is involved.

I have read through most of this thread and i have to say im too stupid to understand most of the discussion.

Can someone please link some pads that actually work?

I have seen this tread (Chinese NIR pad: Initial measurements (p. 2)) testing some pads but the test results provided dont tell me much as i dont understand them.

I understand OP wants people to report their results using NIR, but i have not seen him recommend any specific pads. There are links to amazon and aliexpress but how do we know if they are any good? Someone could just buy one of these and it might not even work the way its described and then report no results using NIR witch would defeat the whole purpose of this "experiment"

Originally Posted by pantera2994
I have read through most of this thread and i have to say im too stupid to understand most of the discussion.

Can someone please link some pads that actually work?

I have seen this tread (Chinese NIR pad: Initial measurements (p. 2)) testing some pads but the test results provided dont tell me much as i dont understand them.

I understand OP wants people to report their results using NIR, but i have not seen him recommend any specific pads. There are links to amazon and aliexpress but how do we know if they are any good? Someone could just buy one of these and it might not even work the way its described and then report no results using NIR witch would defeat the whole purpose of this "experiment"


I bought a supposed NIR off of Amazon. I have noticed it affects me in a good way, but whether it’s truly hitting the 850, I have no way of knowing. I also bout a FIR pad from Ali Express and have no idea if it’s even genuine FIR. The only thing I can do is experiment with a sausage like Scienceguy did and see if my FIR internally heats up the sausage to the range of temp that is needed, because a probe is NOT going in my urethra.

If I understand correctly, NIR does NOT heat up the penis to the needed temps, so if someone could confirm or correct me on that, I’d appreciate it.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
I bought a supposed NIR off of Amazon. I have noticed it affects me in a good way, but whether it’s truly hitting the 850, I have no way of knowing. I also bout a FIR pad from Ali Express and have no idea if it’s even genuine FIR. The only thing I can do is experiment with a sausage like Scienceguy did and see if my FIR internally heats up the sausage to the range of temp that is needed, because a probe is NOT going in my urethra.

If I understand correctly, NIR does NOT heat up the penis to the needed temps, so if someone could confirm or correct me on that, I’d appreciate it.

Nir pads don’t have heat so it’s not going to heat it up to the temps you’re looking for. Best to stick to fir in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Jojo84

Nir pads don’t have heat so it’s not going to heat it up to the temps you’re looking for. Best to stick to fir in my opinion.

That’s what I thought, thank you!


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Originally Posted by Jojo84

Nir pads don’t have heat so it’s not going to heat it up to the temps you’re looking for. Best to stick to fir in my opinion.

What do you mean?

Mine 850nm + 660 is clearly heating up and 850 alone will generate heat too, simple physics.

+1 BDAgenda -I don’t understand the confusion people are having

NIR have heat, RED have heat. Just get a NIR + RED pad, research and find what works best. Sorry we can’t answer every question as I know people live all across the world.

This one link has great images for you to understand what is going on. not endorsing the sales aspect just the image aspect- Red Light vs. Infrared vs. Near-Infrared: Clearing Up the Confusion – PlatinumLED Therapy Lights


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.25 NBPEL / 6.75 BPEL / 4.75 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring over ball & shaft) / Grower 4 FL - 4/2024 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.25 EG & Solid EQ)

Anyone know a good way to protect your balls from an NIR panel so you can target the shaft?


Start Date: February 2024

Starting Stats: 6.75" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Goal: 7.5" NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG

Originally Posted by Mr. Schlong
I bought a supposed NIR off of Amazon. I have noticed it affects me in a good way, but whether it’s truly hitting the 850, I have no way of knowing. I also bout a FIR pad from Ali Express and have no idea if it’s even genuine FIR. The only thing I can do is experiment with a sausage like Scienceguy did and see if my FIR internally heats up the sausage to the range of temp that is needed, because a probe is NOT going in my urethra.

If I understand correctly, NIR does NOT heat up the penis to the needed temps, so if someone could confirm or correct me on that, I’d appreciate it.

According to other threads I’ve read, FIR doesn’t heat the penis up to therapeutic temps either, or if it does, it takes a LONG time. As far as I can tell (thus far) only US will consistently and quickly heat up the penis to therapeutic temps. If FIR takes 30 mins to heat you up to the required temp… that is just such a big time sink. Also don’t even see how it would work to take a break and heat for 30 mins if you’re trying to do a routine with 25% no heat, 50% heat, 25 no heat. There’s still lots to learn and read, though, so maybe someone can correct my misconceptions.


Start Date: February 2024

Starting Stats: 6.75" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Goal: 7.5" NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG

Has anyone else posted their experience with NIR?

OP gained 4cm in 6 months if i remember correctly, now it has been 8 months since the original thread so i was wondering if anyone else had similar success with NIR.

I only found one thread by delsapo who gained 1.5 cm in 4 months with hanging.

Originally Posted by beavismacon
According to other threads I’ve read, FIR doesn’t heat the penis up to therapeutic temps either, or if it does, it takes a LONG time. As far as I can tell (thus far) only US will consistently and quickly heat up the penis to therapeutic temps. If FIR takes 30 mins to heat you up to the required temp… that is just such a big time sink. Also don’t even see how it would work to take a break and heat for 30 mins if you’re trying to do a routine with 25% no heat, 50% heat, 25 no heat. There’s still lots to learn and read, though, so maybe someone can correct my misconceptions.


Scienceguy stuck a probe in his urethra and then charted how long it took to reach temp and it was 20 minutes.

I believe the thing the guys have been experimenting with is non heated stretch times, which would make sense to do that, with the pad on and when it heats up, then you time it under heat.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Originally Posted by beavismacon

Anyone know a good way to protect your balls from an NIR panel so you can target the shaft?

You don’t have to worry about it. Multiple studies say it is safe or even an increase in sperm. I think it is good that the NIR reaches all around your D. I have mine hit the fat pad and testing now if it helps with the reduction of that.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.25 NBPEL / 6.75 BPEL / 4.75 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring over ball & shaft) / Grower 4 FL - 4/2024 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.25 EG & Solid EQ)

Originally Posted by pantera2994

Has anyone else posted their experience with NIR?

OP gained 4cm in 6 months if i remember correctly, now it has been 8 months since the original thread so i was wondering if anyone else had similar success with NIR.

I only found one thread by delsapo who gained 1.5 cm in 4 months with hanging.

I mean ask a lot of people here over multiple threads and we are all a lot of people heating up with NIR pads. I have been using it for 3 months now and so blessed that this is available.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.25 NBPEL / 6.75 BPEL / 4.75 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring over ball & shaft) / Grower 4 FL - 4/2024 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.25 EG & Solid EQ)

Yes i have seen people mentioning it, but i was hoping for more detailed progress reports. I just checked your posts and i see you do actually have a progress report thread but for some reason when i search for NIR, your thread doesnt show up. I guess i will have to go through them manually.

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