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Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

Originally Posted by Bemorethanbig

You don’t have to worry about it. Multiple studies say it is safe or even an increase in sperm. I think it is good that the NIR reaches all around your D. I have mine hit the fat pad and testing now if it helps with the reduction of that.

Man, if it helped with reducing the fat pad, that would be HUGE. And TBH, I could stand an increase in sperm also.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

Originally Posted by Bemorethanbig
You don’t have to worry about it. Multiple studies say it is safe or even an increase in sperm. I think it is good that the NIR reaches all around your D. I have mine hit the fat pad and testing now if it helps with the reduction of that.

Oh nice, that would be great. I was just going off what OP said about not wanting to hit places that have that much cell generation


Start Date: February 2024

Starting Stats: 6.75" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Goal: 7.5" NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG

Just wanted to share a potentially fine finding for us people, living in Europe:
https://www.ama … /dp/B0C3HDBJCF/

Irradiance seems to be on the low end (> 100mW/cm2) of what Solvay1927 recommends, but that’s honestly the best I found, especially for the money.
Re-starting my PE journey, will keep you posted if NIR works wonders for me as well. ;)


RE-RE-Started (21.03.2024): 5.5" BPEL, 4.5" MSEG

Current: 5.5" BPEL, 4.7" MSEG

Current Goal: 6.6" BPEL, 5.3" MSEG -- Long Term Goal: 7.1" BPEL, 5.5" MSEG

Good luck to you. Are you going to be extending only?

Are you supposed to feel heat when you’re using near infrared? Because I really don’t feel any heat.

As far as i understand NIR is not about heating up the tissue but stimulating it in a way that promotes growth. For me it does make my penis a bit more warmer and different, but its not really heated up.

Originally Posted by pantera2994
As far as i understand NIR is not about heating up the tissue but stimulating it in a way that promotes growth. For me it does make my penis a bit more warmer and different, but its not really heated up.

Thanks. I think mine might be cheap one .

Originally Posted by midatlantic
Thanks. I think mine might be cheap one .

That is not necessarily a problem. As stated by the author of this thread, most NIR pads are produced in china, even the ones that are sold by western companies with 10 times markup in price.
I got the pad recommended in this thread by rocco Chinese NIR pad: Initial measurements
It was tested by the guy and as far as i understand it does produce radiation in the advertised range.

That looks exactly like the one I have. A flexible pad with square LEDs, a stretchy wrap with Velcro, and the controller dongle. Same box, even.

I had been using a screw-in IR lamp in a desk lamp holder, and a long skinny flat panel IR lamp, that I just laid on my leg or abdomen.

I could use either of the lamps for a full 30-minute pump session. However, the flexible USB wrap, when wrapped around the pump tube, is stout enough that I can only use it for ten minutes per session, or my shaft will feel sunburned. I only using on full power (level 5) since I want as much penetration as possible.

The flexible wrap never gets more than slightly warm to the touch.

Originally Posted by pantera2994

That is not necessarily a problem. As stated by the author of this thread, most NIR pads are produced in china, even the ones that are sold by western companies with 10 times markup in price.

I got the pad recommended in this thread by rocco Chinese NIR pad: Initial measurements

It was tested by the guy and as far as i understand it does produce radiation in the advertised range.

Great. Thank you

Tonight I noticed good after effects after using NIR while in my hydromax pump. I didn’t get as much girth as I usually get when though I was in the pump longer then normal, normally I prefer to get a little more girth, but the good part is I felt more sensitive during sex. I think sometimes with all this PE, it’s easy to dull the nerves and for me, it makes it harder to finish. But I had great EQ tonight. Above normal sensation. I am thinking of getting a FIR in the future to have the feeling of doing my extending and pumping with more effect, but use the NIR to help heal. Hopefully I can continue to repeat tonight’s results. I just recently got it and only had a chance to use it a few times so far.

Originally Posted by pantera2994
Good luck to you. Are you going to be extending only?

Actually I was thinking of using it for warm up and pumping, not so much extending…
But open to explore my options, honestly. :D


RE-RE-Started (21.03.2024): 5.5" BPEL, 4.5" MSEG

Current: 5.5" BPEL, 4.7" MSEG

Current Goal: 6.6" BPEL, 5.3" MSEG -- Long Term Goal: 7.1" BPEL, 5.5" MSEG

There’s not enough clarity for me that NIR is superior as a stand-alone solution & can replace heat entirely in a routine. I see some science and research articles, but mostly anecdotal evidence for a single person that it worked well for PE. That being said, there’s potential here, but my hypothesis is if I combine NIR with other more proven heat methods I’m more likely to get good results (as long as I don’t overdo it).

I’m going to try NIR (while I wear ADS or pump), but I don’t want to stop using traditional heat (unless this creates major risk of injury).

FIR Question:
Is it dangerous for me to wrap this FIR device around my stealthformen ADS for 20 minutes while I stretch (on maximum settings)?
(stealthformen vac hanger has a few layers of plastic/ rubber so it would keep the heating pad at least a small distance from my unit, especially towards the glans)
https://www.ama … /dp/B00P7CPKDI/
If I go too far with FIR, will it just hurt? (or can I somehow hurt myself without knowing it?)
e.g. can I get infrared burns & not realize it, or will I feel pain & know I should stop?

Is it safe to combine FIR/ NIR / Rice socks in the same routine / on the same day?
-e.g. 5 minute warmup with rice socks, then wrap FIR around my stealthformen ADS device, then NIR during pumping (or is that too crazy)?
-is anyone using NIR + Rice Socks or + heat lamp or combining multiple heat methods with good results?


then: 6" BPEL, 4.88" MSEG, 4.88" BEG

now: 7.3" BPEL, 5.5" MSEG, 6.5" BEG


Last edited by blink2000 : 04-04-2024 at .

My dude, just start using it and you will see. Too many questions, but I will help with what I can. Think of RED mainly as healing, warming up and possibly getting your stretches goals quicker. Hink just did a video on it, whatever works for you. "All Things Male No. 3 - Heat, Clamping, Edema"

That being said, there’s potential here, but my hypothesis is if I combine NIR with other more proven heat methods I’m more likely to get good results (as long as I don’t overdo it).
~~~You can’t over due it, that is fine heating like usual and then doing RED Light

I’m going to try NIR (while I wear ADS or pump), but I don’t want to stop using traditional heat (unless this creates major risk of injury).
~~~ If you stretch or hang, that would be the best time to use. Also with ADS if you wanted to?

If I go too far with FIR, will it just hurt? (or can I somehow hurt myself without knowing it?)
e.g. can I get infrared burns & not realize it, or will I feel pain & know I should stop?
~~~ I have done 25-30 min (which is recommended max) on a pad for 5 x a week for 4 months and nothing, not even a light tan. If you do get too close and feel a burning feeling, back up or lower intensity.

Is it safe to combine FIR/ NIR / Rice socks in the same routine / on the same day?
~~~ Do the warm up you always do, in time you will see that all you need is RED Light, but stick to what works for you

-e.g. 5 minute warmup with rice socks, then wrap FIR around my stealthformen ADS device, then NIR during pumping (or is that too crazy)?
~~~ I’m not a RED LIGHT during pumping guy, there are some out there. I only water pump so the water stays warm with 20 min MAX pump. So I don’t see why placing a RED LIGHT through a tube and water would help in any way, with such minimal time?


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5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.25 NBPEL / 6.75 BPEL / 4.75 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring over ball & shaft) / Grower 4 FL - 4/2024 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.25 EG & Solid EQ)

Thanks Bemorethanbig - very helpful advice. I have an old hip injury also… I’m going to see if NIR helps with that too (I was reading in the amazon reviews about a person with an old shoulder injury that didn’t heal even after years of rehab that recovered with a couple months of NIR).


then: 6" BPEL, 4.88" MSEG, 4.88" BEG

now: 7.3" BPEL, 5.5" MSEG, 6.5" BEG

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