Originally Posted by NewYellowBanana
Has anyone ever considered that since we are increasing the rate of collagen production, we might be thickening our tunica and septum? More collagen might mean thicker structures that can resist more force. I was doing incremental hanging with an NIR pad according to the correct specifications mentioned in this thread, and after a couple of months, I saw no increase in size.Recently, I moved on from NIR to ultrasound. After reading as many of Kyrpa’s posts as I could and seeing all the incredible BPFSL gains that were reported, I put it into practice and did so for another couple of months. In the first week, I saw a 10mm increase in BPFSL. After that, nothing. Zero. I changed positions, angles, power, and frequency, and still saw no increase in strain. I’m really not sure if I limited myself after doing long periods of unheated hanging, clamping, and DMSO application. I sure hope not. The science says that when tissue is heated to 39-42 degrees Celsius, it’s able to stretch beyond what it was previously capable of. The science says it should work, and it did for me initially, but now it doesn’t anymore.
I’ve messaged Kyrpa in hopes of getting his attention as he is vastly more knowledgeable on this topic, but since it’s been years since ultrasound was a hot topic, he seems to have left the forum for extended periods. Maybe Kyrpa can notify us of what’s going wrong here, or maybe I’ve overlooked something simple in the 200+ page thread about ultrasound. We will see. I haven’t given up and will keep researching and experimenting myself.
In short, yes, you did limit yourself by doing long periods of unheated hanging and clamping. This is not a speculation at this point. Literally every piece of pertinent literature on tissue behavior confirms this.
The good news is that it is only temporary. When you or anyone else is in this situation, simply quit pulling on, pumping, or jelqing your penis. Within 3-4 weeks, the elasticity of the TA returns closer to baseline. Within 6 months the tissue density mostly returns to normal. And a year later most everything will likely be similar to where it was before you started, in terms of tissue propensity to deformation. The remaining wild card is whether the body builds a more sensitive trigger which is not uncommon for bodily function. For example, it is not uncommon for a mild allergy to turn into a severe allergy upon repeat exposure. Likewise, a mild exposure to a virus can be used to trigger a systemic immunity to later infection. It is very possible that once a ligament has toughened, the condition is triggered more quickly at lower stress in the future. So upon returning, you really want to be extra careful to avoid triggering a toughening response again.
However, the reason that I remain skeptical of this hypersensitivity theory is the propensity for dislocated joints to remain prone to future dislocation. Unlike tendons, after some type of deforming event, ligaments seem to be fine reverting back to their baseline tissue character without returning to their baseline shape. Tendons seem prone to permanently fortifying themselves after deformation. I’m optimistic that given enough time, the TA would fully revert to its baseline character. I should note, however, that this doesn’t mean the BPEL or EG would not reduce during a very long decon. However there are minor things that I suspect may help to mitigate this.
1) Low intensity red light therapy. Nothing that will heat the structure though.
2) Edging daily, preferably without the use of porn. Just your imagination is best and be gentle and slow. You want a full erection and good blood flow but no ejaculation. This will also help maintain EQ throughout your older years.
3) Go commando if you can and wear loose pants. Just allow everything to hang. Another technique is to wear briefs or boxer briefs but pull your penis and scrotum completely out through the fly. Depending on the construction, you may have to clip some stitching so that it isn’t choking or chafing.
4) Avoid sitting for prolonged periods or with a posture that causes your pants to ride up and secure your penis tightly, thus holding the TA in a retracted state.
5) If you have the willpower with your girl, don’t ejaculate every time you have sex. Get yourself right to the edge multiple times during the session and make sure she’s fullfilled, but only allow yourself to orgasm once a week or so. You’ll notice that your flaccid is generally much more full and heavy.
Right now, I’m researching a topical cream that can very likely both delay the TA toughening in the first place as well as de-toughen it after the damage has been done. Unfortunately, I have no intention of jumping through FDA hoops and taking it commercial. So, it’s very unlikely that it becomes commercially available in the near future. However, if I can satisfy myself that it’s safe, I wouldn’t be against sharing the details here so people can self-experiment. At present, the compounds used to make it are also quite expensive. Imagine a small tube of cream costing around $600 and maybe only lasting a few months.
