Current thoughts on cementing gains?

Hi all,

I’m curious if there’s any thoughts on how to proceed with cementing gains?

I’m closing in on 70 hours of actual hang time since I resumed hanging, but it seems like I can’t continue like this for much longer due to time constraints and conflicting goals. I simply have to resume PE at some other point in time if I can find the time then. Being beyond the newbie stage, I simply need to put in more hours than I can right now.

Currently, I’m doing 1-3 sets every day at 8 kg which was my max weight. Mostly 1-2 sets, but usually I can hang a 30 minute set. I also do piss pulls basically all the time I’m in the toilet (which is quite a lot). And an ADS as often as I can (which is not very often, sadly).

Monty of PEWeights argued that he would recommend quitting cold turkey and simply wear an ADS since you’d want your tissues to heal in the elongated state, but not continue causing new trauma. The way he explained it made sense, so I took a leap of faith and tried it the last time, but I did lose most of my gains. I’ve never been super accurate with measuring, so it might be that I ‘shrinked’ back to a length that was slightly longer than pre-hanging anyway. But I did lose length.

Other more traditional approaches seem to be:

1. Gain beyond your goal size and expect tissues to retract and settle around your intended goal.

2. Continue doing minimum work for a while. Reduced sets, but maybe also reduced weights…?

As of now, I’m doing number 2 and maybe even hoping that I can still gain with the work I’m putting in. Just not sure how long I’d need to sustain it. I was thinking end of April from a practical viewpoint. If I am to register any gains at that point, maybe I’d find the motivation to continue a little longer.

Any thoughts on the matter? :)

PS: If anyone is curious, I have a measurable BPFSL gain of roughly 0,55 inches. BPEL has increased for sure as well, but not beyond old records, so nothing I’m super excited about. Some of it were lost gains regained.

Regards.

If I hit a wall in my gains, I would cut back to five minutes of stretching followed by a hundred or so jelqs, and perform this mini workout every other day for three to four weeks. This has always “cemented” my gains. So that is all I can recommend. Good luck.

Interesting, raybbaby.

I haven’t done much jelqing at all for the last months and I miss them, so I was actually hoping to incorporate those to help cement my gains. In fact, I was also considering adding pumping.

I want to cement my gains like you too after getting my gains and I’m getting nearer from them good luck Bro.

Solid advice!

I usually taper off my routine at a wall and go to around 50% to 33% before getting bored and coming back to PE later. If I don’t taper, I lose progress usually.

My current routine is like 5-6 days optimally. It would go down to 2x weekly if I were to quit now for about 2 months to keep what gains I’m trying to net.

+1

I don’t know what the prevailing PE thoughts are on this but I just view it as principally elastic fibers and connective tissue. From what I can gather the early newbie gains are ligament gains which are predominantly elastic fibers. After that it’s thought to be tunica which is predominantly connective tissue. We know that elastic fibers are not fully remodeled after a year. We know that it’s widely held that connective tissue takes 210 days.

So I would think a year after the newbie gains the ligament gains should be pretty stable and 210 days after the beginning of a plateau the last connective tissue gains should be stable.

I think for older folks there’s slow age related effects so I think a preventative maintenance program either continuous or periodic would be a good idea.

All that said my ideas are completely anecdotal.

Appreciate your comments. :)

Do you guys think (water) pumping at normal vacuum levels will be beneficial/sufficient to help cement gains?

I’m thinking that I’ll start tapering off by end of this week. This means 1 set per day and eventually EOD day. On top of this, I’d like to add pumping and jelqing 3X weekly and eventually increase this part of my routine to fully replace hanging as I will try to gain some girth and increase EQ.

Do you guys think that I should taper off my weight as well? Or should I just stick to 1-2 sets at max weight?

Keep us updated Bro.😊😊

I dropped weight down to 7 kg from 9 kg now. Partially motivated by pain yesterday after my first set. I still go for 1-2 sets of hanging per day. On days when I can’t hang, I do at least 10 minutes stretching + toilet stretches.

I have a long weekend coming up in three weeks, so I’m considering actually going completely off hanging then and move on to just manual stretches and waterpumping/jelqing. Hopefully, this way I can cement my length and move on to girth gains. :)

Still ‘hanging in there’ with 1-2 sets per day and jelqing + waterpumping 3X weekly or so. :)

Although I’ve had less gains than I hoped for, I did measure a good 18,0 cm/7,1” BPEL with a less than 100% erection a few weeks back. This is less than my all time high at 19,0 cm BPEL and a bit disappointing considering I came off a long deload period. But, I’ll take what I can get.

I guess that although I feel like hanging have been an effort this time and that I’ve made sacrifices leading a busy life, I’m probably still hanging less than I need to gain steadily/faster. Also, it might be that the straight out position is a tough one to gain in. So it’s most likely a combination.

But, I have made gains from my starting point and if I could cement 18,0 cm and not regress below that, I would be thrilled.

If I ever hang seriously again, I will probably make sure I can do at least 4-6 sets on a daily basis for a longer period of time and probably hang straight down from the start.

So is the reason why you would stop hanging about time constraints?

If this is the case then it would make sense to find a different routine that works better for your schedule.

On the other hand if you can find a way to keep hanging then I would recommend doing that. Since it seems like you’re approaching your desired size maybe try more complex exercises to get that last little bit of gain. Bundled hanging over a fulcrum with heat, for example. This way you could get more value from any time you do spend hanging.

As for cementing gains, I don’t really see a reason to stop doing PE. My belief is that the best way to cement gains is to continue gaining. Of course, it is understandable if someone would want to stop, especially if they are becoming too large. Even then a manual routine is simple and effective enough to maintain gains.

A good analogy is training for sports. To stay in top condition an athlete needs to train. Once they are in that condition, it is a matter of maintaining what they have. In this case instead of training your body for a sport you’re doing PE.

Naturally gains will disappear during periods off. There is little one can do to circumvent this. Therefore the ideal approach, in my opinion is to keep striving for gains.

Yes, that’s correct. Or put differently. I have goals that are currently more important which have suffered from my current routine.

I’m not sure if a routine exists which would let me continue gaining with the time I have at hand? I’m well beyond newbie gains and have considerable length gains under my belt. I had hoped my long break would yield some fast and easy gains, but it seems like I’d need to work hard for things now. :)

That’s a good suggestion. I do think perhaps I’ll have to keep it in mind for the future. For the time being, I just want to at least make sure I keep what gains I have made.

I won’t be quitting PE this time anytime soon, so at a minimum I’ll be continuing with some daily stretches, toilet stretches and jelqing/water pumping 3-4 times per week for the near future. Would have loved to get some girth, but it seems to be really hard for me…