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How much can you expect to gain in length? I really want an inch and a half nbp and now after a year I havent gained much. Maybe 200hr extender and wearing an esl 40 for 4 months and pumping 10mins per day for maybe 2,5 months. Gained 1,5cm sfl and an inch flaccid minimum.

I mean I will do the 1200hr extending that people talk about is about the max time before diminishing returns really sets in. Then I will use my hanger for a year 2x1 hour daily after that. If I don’t get 1,5 inch length from that process I think I will get the ligament surgery no scar operation.

gain expectations

Originally Posted by HenrikL
How much can you expect to gain in length? I really want an inch and a half nbp and now after a year I havent gained much. Maybe 200hr extender and wearing an esl 40 for 4 months and pumping 10mins per day for maybe 2,5 months. Gained 1,5cm sfl and an inch flaccid minimum.

I mean I will do the 1200hr extending that people talk about is about the max time before diminishing returns really sets in. Then I will use my hanger for a year 2x1 hour daily after that. If I don’t get 1,5 inch length from that process I think I will get the ligament surgery no scar operation.

I’ve been contemplating writing a short book entitled “My Four Year Marathon”. It would be an auto biography of my PE journey and what I did to achieve my full potential gain in 4 years.
Dr. Richard Howard has a fairly accurate hypothesis on what one can expect to gain if you train correctly. Generally speaking one can potentially gain 50% of your natural erect length. Hypothetically let’s assume you are 6” BPEL, 50% of 6” is 3”
I happen to think this formula is rather generous and is a little ambitious. However I started out at a very average, maybe even below average BPEL of 5 3/8”, and four years later I range between 7 1/2” - 7 3/4” BPEL depending on my level of arousal. Which is a very respectable gain. I also gained between 1 3/8” - 1 1/2” in girth circumference depending on the shaft area being measured.

I consider the Bone Press measurement to be the only accurate way to measure true gains, since the pubic fat pad can vary in thickness based your body composition.

Since you’ve only been training for a year I would tell you not to be discouraged. I believe your goal is a realistic one. However I personally don’t believe that an extender can generate enough traction to promote a 1 1/2” gain in length. I would suggest getting a little more aggressive with your training, and start weight hanging now. Be sure to follow your hang sessions with very aggressive hand stretching for a minimum of 10 minutes. If you can wear the extender or ADS after your heavier training sessions while you recover that is optimal.

Pumping is a good way to supplement girth gains and promote vascular development, but don’t expect pumping to provide much in the way of length gains.

If after another year you don’t see any results, then you might consider a surgical lengthening procedure. Keep in mind surgery is not a magic bullet. It’s important to be very dedicated to a weight hanging program after the surgery. If you don’t, scar tissue can develop and nullify all gains you made with the procedure. Picking the right surgeon is important too!

Originally Posted by LGHanger
I’ve been contemplating writing a short book entitled “My Four Year Marathon”. It would be an auto biography of my PE journey and what I did to achieve my full potential gain in 4 years.
Dr. Richard Howard has a fairly accurate hypothesis on what one can expect to gain if you train correctly. Generally speaking one can potentially gain 50% of your natural erect length. Hypothetically let’s assume you are 6” BPEL, 50% of 6” is 3”
I happen to think this formula is rather generous and is a little ambitious. However I started out at a very average, maybe even below average BPEL of 5 3/8”, and four years later I range between 7 1/2” - 7 3/4” BPEL depending on my level of arousal. Which is a very respectable gain. I also gained between 1 3/8” - 1 1/2” in girth circumference depending on the shaft area being measured.

I consider the Bone Press measurement to be the only accurate way to measure true gains, since the pubic fat pad can vary in thickness based your body composition.

Since you’ve only been training for a year I would tell you not to be discouraged. I believe your goal is a realistic one. However I personally don’t believe that an extender can generate enough traction to promote a 1 1/2” gain in length. I would suggest getting a little more aggressive with your training, and start weight hanging now. Be sure to follow your hang sessions with very aggressive hand stretching for a minimum of 10 minutes. If you can wear the extender or ADS after your heavier training sessions while you recover that is optimal.

Pumping is a good way to supplement girth gains and promote vascular development, but don’t expect pumping to provide much in the way of length gains.

If after another year you don’t see any results, then you might consider a surgical lengthening procedure. Keep in mind surgery is not a magic bullet. It’s important to be very dedicated to a weight hanging program after the surgery. If you don’t, scar tissue can develop and nullify all gains you made with the procedure. Picking the right surgeon is important too!

I just havent seen many guys above 7” starting size gain very much. I have seen lot’s of guys starting around the avarage gain 2 inches and even more. Even the legend kingsnake who is just crazy big did Not gain more because of his huge starting size, he gained less (1,5 inch he said last I checked over something like 5-7 year period) but he gained extremely much in girth though. Maybe more of the penis is already outside the body who knows, all I know is gaining is very hard. Guess there seems to be a real “the big equalizer” after all and it’s not just the erection vs flaccid it’s the maximum pe attainable gains also. Yeah I guess chances are I won’t see any more increases from the extender so I will gravitate towards the hanging. But I think I will need surgery anyway, for correcting penoscrotal webbing something that is hindering my nbp from increasing which is the only reason im doing pe, if I had a nbp close to bp I’d be happy but there is a 2”+ gap from the top so maybe its not penoscrotal but lets say I have a skinpad/fatpad its strange.

Kingsnake was looking to gain girth more than length, so I’ve read on his threads here and pegym as well.

I started out with 7,5nbpel(20,5cm bpel) and I am now at 8,3nbpel(22,5-23cm bpel) at a high erection, I’ve been hanging for roughly 4-5 months SD and BTC, a total PE time of 6 months but with 2 months doing only manuals from which I also gained maybe 0,5cm in EL. I’ve also gained base girth a lot and some shaft girth as well, started out at 13,5cm base girth and now at 15-16cm, and for the rest of the shaft I was probably at a 12,5-13cm max measurement pre PE, now it is 13-14,5cm depending on where I measure.

Originally Posted by train spot
Kingsnake was looking to gain girth more than length, so I’ve read on his threads here and pegym as well.
I started out with 7,5nbpel(20,5cm bpel) and I am now at 8,3nbpel(22,5-23cm bpel) at a high erection, I’ve been hanging for roughly 4-5 months SD and BTC, a total PE time of 6 months but with 2 months doing only manuals from which I also gained maybe 0,5cm in EL. I’ve also gained base girth a lot and some shaft girth as well, started out at 13,5cm base girth and now at 15-16cm, and for the rest of the shaft I was probably at a 12,5-13cm max measurement pre PE, now it is 13-14,5cm depending on where I measure.

May i ask how old are you?


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Of course, I’m 28. Why do you ask?

Originally Posted by train spot
Of course, I’m 28. Why do you ask?

I was wondering if you were like 19 which would account for your easy gains.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I wouldn’t say easy gains. Look at all the other members who gainesd like crazy from manuals only in 6months to 1year periods, there are a few huge guys among them too. Not to mention easy girth gainers, a few here as well, but on reddit I found a guy who gained 1,5inches mseg from 5months of clamping, photo proof also.

Maybe easier than others, but I still think I’m going to gain a lot better from SO and OTS angles, gonna start maybe next month or january, depending on my bpfsl on the first of the month. Also, my ligs really look stretched out and my balls + scrotum skin are stretched out as well, I think it will get a better overall appearance from SO and OTS and maybe some curvature correction..

Fwiw, after hanging I reach 25cm bpfsl, my base skin + scrotum and balls stretch way too much away from my body, maybe 15cm along the shaft, too much skin from the abdomen area maybe, not sure.


Last edited by train spot : 11-22-2018 at .

Originally Posted by HenrikL
How much can you expect to gain in length? I really want an inch and a half nbp and now after a year I havent gained much. Maybe 200hr extender and wearing an esl 40 for 4 months and pumping 10mins per day for maybe 2,5 months. Gained 1,5cm sfl and an inch flaccid minimum.

I mean I will do the 1200hr extending that people talk about is about the max time before diminishing returns really sets in. Then I will use my hanger for a year 2x1 hour daily after that. If I don’t get 1,5 inch length from that process I think I will get the ligament surgery no scar operation.

be careful with the surgery though,it may not be worth it.
From my understanding a guy that had PE consistently before (stretched the ligs) and go to surgery wont have as much gains compared to a fresh guy that never did a manual stretch in his life.


Then- 5.7 x 4.7 (bpel x mseg)

Now- 7.1 x 5.1 (beg 5.5) // Goal-> 8 x 5.5+

Extender Log 2017

I know how others gained, yea some gained 2 inches in 4 months but that is 1 in 10,000, most won’t gain 1 inch in first 2 years, so your gains of 3cm in 6 months are EXCEPTIONALLY EASY.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I am doing multiple hours of stretching mostly good quality BTC and A stretches and few hours of hanging a day. This is dedication and work, feels good, flaccid is around 17.5cm now hopefully slowly increasing, erect still hasn’t moved from 15cm i believe (even less with full erection). If i don’t grow with this routine in 3-4 months, i’ll make my own bib and go with higher weights.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Lol, huge flaccid.:) )congrats on that, don’t you have a problem hiding it in public?

Actually it’s 2-2,5cm gained, and it’s obviously from the ligs, and I have been pretty dedicated myself, hanging everyday for 40min-4hours depending on the soreness I could feel. I’ve been putting in at least 15-20hours of hanging each week along with 5-10min jelqing BTB and other angles each day, with 10-30min jelqing session 2-3 times a week after my hanging sets, warming up with heat every day in the morning working my 0,5kg-2,5kg sets so I can hang 3-4kg afterwards being properly conditioned for them with the heat and all….I’ve been doing this since july, started PE in may this year…I have a few pics for EL, but I would really like to show my 7inch base girth post semi erection while in the hanging wraps…How does that not count for hanging being good for girth gains as well? Some that are clamping couldn’t get that 1” expansion in the clamp, I got it while hanging….but just at the base, It looks like blood was trapped in the base not being able to reach the tip because of the tight wrapping I use.


Last edited by train spot : 11-22-2018 at .

Wait, you mean your flaccid is longer than your erection? :O:O

Originally Posted by train spot
Wait, you mean your flaccid is longer than your erection? :O:O

That’s what happens when you have a big curve for example.

HenrykL, do you thing hanging in any angle will straighten out a penis curve?

There was a guy here, krowax, he had photos too, he was hanging for a few months maybe a year and jelqing along his hanging routine, started out with a left curve and it eventually got way better after his hole unit was significantly bigger length/girthwise too.

I have down curve, would UTS or SO angles do something to correct it? Or should I stop hanging when I want to switch angles and do only manuals against the curve like v stretches instead?

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