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Hanging 101

Originally Posted by LGHanger
At some point you’ll have to go heavier. Lighter weights with longer hang times will provide some gains …. but you will plateau.
We are preparing to do a comparison video review of several different vacuum hangers (most from China). It will be illuminating! Similar to comparing a $150 pair of Nike running shoes to the Walmart $12 dollar pair. The quality, performance, price and customer service will all be part of the comparison equation.

I seen your ebay page Penis Enlargement Hanging tested 32lbs Length Girth LG Hanger Bigger Size PUMP | eBay and you are selling the same 10$ chinese blue silicon sleeve (bottom right first image) as sold by other chinese stores on ebay and aliexpress 2 Silicone Sleeves For Penis Enlargement Extender Stretcher Pump Hanger Enlarger Penis Sleeve For Condom - Pumps & Enlargers - AliExpress + cup, pump and some weights for US $439.00, which is like 3 times the realistic value in my humble opinion. Like i said, i’d like to stay below 10kg in my hanging, according to many veterans more is not needed at all.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I prefer hand fulcrum much better after all. 40-45sec stretches, occasional heating from above.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Originally Posted by Nixxx

Since your unit is big already, MAYBE you need bigger weights to induce enough microdamage. I would try going 0.5 a week until you reach fatigue, that is, it becomes uncomfortable/painful. Then lower and ride in that area.


Thanks. I will measure bpfsl on the 20th this month and if I don’t see any increase I will consider changing angles, this way I can remain at this weight. I’m a strong believer that hanging more than 5kg/7kg in the first year of hanging is not necesarry. I read from other threads where guys used to hang and gain and most of them were reaching over 10kg in the first year….

LG Hanger silicon sleeves

Originally Posted by Nixxx
I seen your ebay page Penis Enlargement Hanging tested 32lbs Length Girth LG Hanger Bigger Size PUMP | eBay and you are selling the same 10$ chinese blue silicon sleeve (bottom right first image) as sold by other chinese stores on ebay and aliexpress 2 Silicone Sleeves For Penis Enlargement Extender Stretcher Pump Hanger Enlarger Penis Sleeve For Condom - Pumps & Enlargers - AliExpress + cup, pump and some weights for US $439.00, which is like 3 times the realistic value in my humble opinion. Like i said, i’d like to stay below 10kg in my hanging, according to many veterans more is not needed at all.


We produce our own sleeves, and they are nothing at all like the cheap Chinese product you link to. First and foremost our silicon is medical grade, theirs isn’t. Secondly our sleeves are all 8" long, theirs aren’t. Third our sleeves measure 7 on the durometer scale and theirs are about 3-4, which means they are much softer and the elasticity is very weak, which means they are prone to tear and will not last nearly as long as ours. We can prove this because we have a Durometer scale which we use to test with and I have tested the Chinese products. Last of all we vacuum purge all the air bubbles from our silicon before it is injected into the molds. This completely eliminates any possibility for a tiny air bubble. I’ve actually purchased sleeves from those same suppliers just to make a comparison between ours, and just as I have said their product is inferior. Often you can see little air bubbles. If you have a tiny air bubble it compromises the integrity of the sleeve and it’s ability to hold vacuum inside the chamber. Some have get by with little or no voids, others don’t, so the question becomes ….. do you feel lucky? You might get one with no air bubbles, and then again you might not. You really do get what you pay for!

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Originally Posted by train spot
Thanks. I will measure bpfsl on the 20th this month and if I don’t see any increase I will consider changing angles, this way I can remain at this weight. I’m a strong believer that hanging more than 5kg/7kg in the first year of hanging is not necesarry. I read from other threads where guys used to hang and gain and most of them were reaching over 10kg in the first year….

As you know since the early days of this forum there were two schools of thought, one believing in need for higher weights, another believing weight is totally irrelevant, only time under (smaller) tension. Only way is to try and see what works for you.

That said, i yesterday did intense 3-4h stretching routine, first 1-2h of A stretch and then 7 directions, 10sec pull in each direction. I always thought why would anyone stretch and put all that effort when gravity can do it for you, but there is a difference, stretching is more dynamic and you hit angles you could never hit with hanging. This post also confirms stretching gives faster erect gains than hanging. Gentlepsychopath - What’s Best For Length Gains - Hanging Or Stretching?

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Stretching in my opinion. As others said hanging takes time and hangers can be tricky.

Learn tricks and improve your stretching routine. You will see erect gains faster than hanging.

I’m hanging 3kg at the moment, will do few hours and then i’ll do few hours of 7 directions and A stretch and finally some low weight hanging (as i won’t be able to hang even 2.5kg after all the training). I think for stretches it’s important not to spare it, use max force and heat often (i do every 2 microsessions) but lower the force later on when you have already induced significant damage and you feel you could break something.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Originally Posted by LGHanger
We produce our own sleeves, and they are nothing at all like the cheap Chinese product you link to. First and foremost our silicon is medical grade, theirs isn’t. Secondly our sleeves are all 8” long, theirs aren’t. Third our sleeves measure 7 on the durometer scale and theirs are about 3-4, which means they are much softer and the elasticity is very weak, which means they are prone to tear and will not last nearly as long as ours. We can prove this because we have a Durometer scale which we use to test with and I have tested the Chinese products. Last of all we vacuum purge all the air bubbles from our silicon before it is injected into the molds. This completely eliminates any possibility for a tiny air bubble. I’ve actually purchased sleeves from those same suppliers just to make a comparison between ours, and just as I have said their product is inferior. Often you can see little air bubbles. If you have a tiny air bubble it compromises the integrity of the sleeve and it’s ability to hold vacuum inside the chamber. Some have get by with little or no voids, others don’t, so the question becomes ….. do you feel lucky? You might get one with no air bubbles, and then again you might not. You really do get what you pay for!

Good for you, but those are nuances and for lower weights hardly makes any difference. 8 inches is too big for most people. I also wonder why you were banned from PEGym if “Marlon LGHanger” was you.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Gentlepsycopath’s road to 8 inches This guy gained greatly with low-medium tension long SD and SD fulcrum stretches. Who can be smart now, some say use max force, another use min force. Too many contradictions, no consensus on anything in PE. I dropped the 7 directions, am going with SD, down-left, down-right and fulcrum SD medium tension and length stretches from now on.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I returned the 7 directions after all, i felt i was missing out without upward stretches.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Ok, I said that I won’t post till at least next year about something serious but I can’t help myself and I need this info so I can make a decision whether to incorporate clamping with an actual clamp device into my routine or not…So here it goes.

I want to ask all you guys reading this hanging thread, what is your opinion on hanging for girth gains?

I’ve taken a picture of my 7.3” base girth with my ace bandage and wrappings tight on penis after hanging…it’s usually 6” or 6.2” at best with scrotum skin maybe…

I think hanging does induce girth gains, not just base, overall girth gains. I’ve spoken to a few pegym members, Cavalier, MulejuiceMcQuaid, and few others on other threads about extending and gaining girth eventually, peace out you guys appreaciate your kindness, and they both said they had girth gains along the shaft from hanging without any specific girth routine.

My guess is, in my case at least, girth gains do come because of the constant blood flow and if a semi erection occurs it’s already a length/girth exercise as the stretched ligs/tissue are overflown with blood.

I will start my own thread soon as I’ve reached 9”bpel already a few times and have before/after pictures, and also my girth pictures in which you can see I’m not 7 at the base in reality and what that “hang clamp” was turning my base into, which was the first reason why I wanted to ask you this. Doesn’t that count as proof that hanging does increase girth? *i don’t do serious girth work imo, i jelq/squeeze 5-10min daily, sometimes less, 2-3times per week maybe do a 20-30min session*fwiw.

Sleeve length

Originally Posted by Nixxx
Good for you, but those are nuances and for lower weights hardly makes any difference. 8 inches is too big for most people. I also wonder why you were banned from PEGym if “Marlon LGHanger” was you.

We make our sleeves 8” long for a reason. I fit all of our chambers with a 3” portion of sleeve, unless a “special order” request is made for a longer length. The remaining 5” inch remnant is added to each and every system in order to provide another 3” inch back up sleeve to be used down the road when the first sleeve wears out. Our silicon sleeves last approximately 3-4 months with regular daily use, provided the user follows our rubber maintenance recommendations. The remaining 2” is utilized as a “Girth Band”. If you did a little more research on how we designed our system and how it is used, then you would understand that these are not “nuances”.

As for guys who are under the impression that hanging with lower weights for longer periods of time will generate a multi-inch gain, they are simply mistaken. But that’s a debate that has been going on for several years within the PE community and I don’t want to delve into the erroneous theories that guys propagate. All I can say is that they are completely ignorant with regard to the size and strength of the suspensory ligament. We work with several surgeons who do penile lengthening procedures, and since they get a first hand view of what lies under the skin after they take a scalpel and cut, I will take their word for what they see over the blind opinions of others.
I’ve explained what they see on several occasions.

As for me being banned from the PE Gym….
I can only speculate, but feel there are a couple reasons. First - we were given hand stretching videos by our associate Dr. Richard Howard, along with permission to use them on our blog. PE Gym admin. discovered that and accused us of stealing proprietary property they owned. What we were not told by Dr. Richard Howard was that when he was part of the PE Gym establishment that those videos were paid for by him and the PE Gym. When he left the organization no legal contract was made to actually say who owned the videos.
That being said, when a certain person from the PE Gym contacted us and made the accusation and demanded we remove the videos, we complied.

The second reason for me being banned was related to a certain member who sent me a private message asking me what I thought of the new product device that the PE Gym was marketing as their own proprietary device. I looked at it and said it looked like a knock off copy of the Phallosan, and then I said I wonder how Phallosan will like that since they spend a tremendous amount of money advertising on the PE Gym.
Well that private message comment was not kept confidential and it was shared with the PE Gym admin., and within less than a week I was banned. So as Paul Harvey used to say….”Now you know the rest of the story”.

Originally Posted by LGHanger
We make our sleeves 8" long for a reason. I fit all of our chambers with a 3" portion of sleeve, unless a "special order" request is made for a longer length. The remaining 5" inch remnant is added to each and every system in order to provide another 3" inch back up sleeve to be used down the road when the first sleeve wears out. Our silicon sleeves last approximately 3-4 months with regular daily use, provided the user follows our rubber maintenance recommendations. The remaining 2" is utilized as a "Girth Band". If you did a little more research on how we designed our system and how it is used, then you would understand that these are not "nuances".

I been hanging with these chinese sleeves for 3 months in few days, they are comfy and did not break.

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As for guys who are under the impression that hanging with lower weights for longer periods of time will generate a multi-inch gain, they are simply mistaken. But that’s a debate that has been going on for several years within the PE community and I don’t want to delve into the erroneous theories that guys propagate. All I can say is that they are completely ignorant with regard to the size and strength of the suspensory ligament. We work with several surgeons who do penile lengthening procedures, and since they get a first hand view of what lies under the skin after they take a scalpel and cut, I will take their word for what they see over the blind opinions of others.
I’ve explained what they see on several occasions.

Many would disagree with you here and elsewhere. Phallosan support claims nothing above 1,5kg is needed, not that i fully agree with them, but then again. https://www.peg ym.com/forums/p … html#post709545 Also there are many who gained greatly with low tension long stretches, many swear this is the key to length gains.

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As for me being banned from the PE Gym….
I can only speculate, but feel there are a couple reasons. First - we were given hand stretching videos by our associate Dr. Richard Howard, along with permission to use them on our blog. PE Gym admin. discovered that and accused us of stealing proprietary property they owned. What we were not told by Dr. Richard Howard was that when he was part of the PE Gym establishment that those videos were paid for by him and the PE Gym. When he left the organization no legal contract was made to actually say who owned the videos.
That being said, when a certain person from the PE Gym contacted us and made the accusation and demanded we remove the videos, we complied.

The second reason for me being banned was related to a certain member who sent me a private message asking me what I thought of the new product device that the PE Gym was marketing as their own proprietary device. I looked at it and said it looked like a knock off copy of the Phallosan, and then I said I wonder how Phallosan will like that since they spend a tremendous amount of money advertising on the PE Gym.
Well that private message comment was not kept confidential and it was shared with the PE Gym admin., and within less than a week I was banned. So as Paul Harvey used to say…."Now you know the rest of the story".

Ok


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Low weight & time under traction

There are guys who have made gains using low traction ADS type devices. There are plenty more that have gotten zilch. The forums are rife with comments / posts from those who have expressed extreme disappointment with these low traction devices. Which leads back to my discussions with surgeons who do penile lengthening procedures. According to all of them the suspensory ligament they see in approximately 90% of their clients is very thick, about 3/16” - 1/4”. The remaining 10% that they refer to as the “lucky ones” have a much thinner / weaker suspensory ligament …. about 1/8” or 3mm thick. Obviously those “lucky ones” will have success with quicker / greater gains because of the weak ligament.

Keep in mind that any device manufacturer can create studies to support their product. Unless those studies are done by an independent party that has no dog in the fight they are worthless.

I must agree about the lucky ones, those are quickest to become “gurus”, this forum is full of them as if everyone is as lucky. Probably thinner ligs and 2 layer tunica, so they grow like weed with few light stretches here and there.

I’m afraid my ligs and tunica are pure steel. I did grow 1cm in flaccid, but that’s 7 months of stretching/hanging, so basically nothing. I increased the stretching routine, we’ll see.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I’m putting hanging on hold as of today, i will only use it as ADS. I love ~1min SD A stretches and 7sec 7 directions. I will continue with this routine for few hours throughout the day, i believe i’m seeing results already.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1


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