Hanging 101

Using this type of homemade device can be effective up to a certain point. Based on your posts I’m leaning towards telling you that you’re nearing that plateau and may already be there.
Without getting into controversial debates about whether or not the Captain’s Wrench is a “noose” or not, you’ve stated that is does prevent blood circulation, and the heavier you go the more pronounced that will become. Or you will discover it’s increasing harder to keep the weight from slipping off.

It’s important to have the right type of wrap / cushion that helps prevent slipping and allows for better blood circulation. The key to that is good grip. I suggest you try using a portion of silicon sleeve under the Captain’s wrench, or one of our Girth Bands. The cushion and grip they provide are unsurpassed when using this type of homemade device. Not trying to sell anything here…. just a beggar telling another beggar where I found bread. Ask around and see if any other forum members on this site or another have tried it and get their opinions too.

I wanna divert attention to story of martin2010 - 2x stretch 5 min + jelq 5 min + no masturbating - (2 inches) - 4 months. I have no comment on cases like this.

Who is martin2010? Sounds far fetched…

Thanks LG hanger, who cares if you’re selling something, might as well be selling something especially if you know it’s for someone’s best…

I am aware of hitting a plateau, not a full plateau actually - I still gain millimetrically after each hanging session. The gains are slower than before, and that’s all, I guess my body wants more weight but I don’t want to get too much over 4kg as it is pretty much for me already as a 6 month PE practitioner..

I am also aware of having to get some pro equipment eventually, don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE some of those sillicone sleeves, damn…:) )

The main problem for me is I don’t even have a credit card or a banc account to make payments online(several problems with the law/incarcerations), I would be eager to order myself an LG hanger/BIB hanger, and some cable clamps and even a pump eventually, and those silicone sleeves seem to be perfect for just about everything from a good hanging grip to and ADS sistem.

Sounds far fetched but it’s not, there are multiple examples like him, some just grow like crazy, some never grow although they do everything “right”. I remember a guy who was stretching and jelqing and hanging for hours each day for 3 years i think, 0 gains. Some are simply blessed and some are cursed, it’s karma thing.

I’m sure they are a few out there who gain harder than others. But I’m also sure many others are doing EVERYTHING wrong, and so they do not gain, they strengthen their tissues/tunica/ligs too much maybe and never take a break, or never change the way they do things, etc…There are multiple ways to fail PE imo, it is way more advanced and complicated than bodybuilding..I’m doing both, have been doing calisthenics/bodybuilding for years and muscle definately builds up easier and with lower effort.

Of course there are many ways to “fail” PE, that’s not your opinion but an old fact. The biggest fail is not to increase force and time gradually, which toughens the tissues and prevents growth. However, i am talking about those who took all those measures correctly and yet do not grow. It may be lack of growth hormone, nutrients or even negative psychological attitude, we don’t know all the mechanisms involved…or as i wrote maybe it’s just bad karma.

As for rest days, opinions are very divided, bib and many others advice no rest days, only less intense days when needed.

I agree and would add the following…..
Too many guys are under the false assumption when it comes to weight hanging that heavier is going to produce gains sooner, and you are correct when you say they strengthen ligament instead of gradually stretching it.
Having been firmly established in the business for nearly 7 years now and having talked to hundreds of guys via email & phone, I always inquire about their training routine for the past year. What I have found for the most part is an over zealous start for a couple months, followed by inconsistency. Very similar to a New Year’s eve resolution to lose weight or exercise more. They start off like gangbusters and then fizzle out after they don’t get the results they expected. Then they turn into hit and miss weekend warriors who train sporadically.

It took me 3 1/2 years to make the gains I enjoy and am proud of. It wasn’t easy, it took time, dedication and discipline…. especially on those days when you just don’t feel like training.

Looking up hangers among top gainers https://www.peg ym.com/forums/s … mers-print.html and reading here again how jelqing is important to supply blood to tissues for growth i got inspired again to give a chance to jelqing which i knew i absolutely hate. So after i hang 4h today i just oiled my unit with olive oil (vitamin e) and only realized how i absolutely HATE this method and i will never EVER try it again. It feels very weird for me, since our sensation in the unit is mostly in the surface area, i feel the inside like i am squeezing grinded meat in a sausage, at about middle of the shaft as blood builds up it creates sort of inside bump or a point i need to force through, my top vein starts to feel weird as if i’m just about to break it… not to mention how much i can’t stand oil on my skin. I don’t know where my brains were to repeat this mistake. If i ever do this again, it will be dry and more likely edging, not jelqing. If you didn’t get it, i truly truly HATE it. Proceeding with hanging now and forget about this as soon as possible.

I suspect you’re going to love it eventually Nixxx. I had the same issue in my first 2 months, couldn’t jelq for more than 10-15min because it was starting to hurt, and I was doing manual stretching so it should’ve been great together. Now I love jelqing and definately see it crucial to hanging gains, ESPECIALLY BTB jelq’s, those really hit the ligs, I do 3-5min jelqs BTB, left/right and upwards, very slow jelqs, and for 3-4 months now I can jelq/squeeze for 30-40 min, don’t do it often, but I can and it gives me the greatest EQ. In the first 2 months it killed my EQ…i was doing it wrong because of my grip/jelq rep time(under 3 sec per rep), now I do like 3sec-30sec reps-3minute TIGHT squeezes, this was impossible for me then…

Great post LG…This thread should have more active talkative users writing, aren’t people hanging anymore?

Some should really adress hanging and clamping as a routine, saiyan22 was getting great results this way.

You keep forgetting i been doing PE longer than you, so i’m long past “first 2 months”, i actually tried jelqing last summer (2017.) and instantly didn’t like it. I seriously started jelqing in april this year. I been doing it for 2h a day for some days and i just hated how messy it is, had the same issues with it like those i noted above. I just don’t like it, as many others, and thankfully it’s not something i “have” to do.

Point being, jelqing is NOT crucial for hanging gains as you wrote, actually, it might even hamper length gains. It is primary a girth method and should be used as such. No need to mention that some of biggest gainers here like Dino9X7, C Guy, fattire, xenolith, did only hanging and grew 2 inches in a year, few months more less.

Quote from saiyan22 on his pegym thread:

“For the question about hanging reducing gains in girth I think that myth is total crap. The thing is we are talking about stretching living tissue. If you stetch a rubber band out, it will get thinner as it’s stretched length wise as with any item. However when you stretch living tissue things work differently. When living tissue is stretched and plastically deformed the cell structure remodels and over time the tissue’s raw mass will increase. In our cases we are talking about an increase in raw tunica mass and elasticity.

So in all actuality, hanging should actually help with girth gains as well as length gains. This is why many guys that hang gain a shit ton of base girth. Some guys say the base girth gains is from pulling out inner penis by stretching the ligs but this is only for hanging in the downwards angle or the BTC angle.

However for the guys that do upward hanging angles to target the tunica.

They still gain base girth and this is because the tunica and connective tissues rooted into the base of the penis is the area that receaves the most stress during tunica hanging because this is the anchor point where the penis attaches to the groin area.

Since this area gets hit the hardess when tunica hanging it also increases in thickness over time to better handle the stress as the weights cause more accumilated fatigue each day.

So in my opinion hanging doesn’t hinder girth gains and clamping doesn’t hinder length gains. Both excersizes help to increase the penis’s raw tissue mass. More raw tissue mass means more length and girth upon erection period.”

Jelqing increases girth, bigger the girth, harder it will be to elongate the tissues. As for hanging and girth, in most cases girth stays the same (some expressed their worries their unit will get thinner which does not happen) with increase of girth at the base which has nothing to do with tunica but pulling out and strengthening of the ligaments at the root of the unit.

Hey Nixxx, didn’t want to offend you in my other post before this saiyan22 quote, but I didn’t actually forget you are doing PE for some time now, I was just giving out a positive answer because I went through the same thing in MY FIRST 2 months of PE, and I meant it in a general way that very many people here report loss of EQ and other bad PI’s from jelqing, but IMO it shouldn’t be that way at all and IMO (MY OPINION-NOT SAYING IT IS A FACT) jelqing should work the same for everybody with better EQ and millimetrical girth/length gains, IMO it is the way you jelq that causes you to not like it(MY OPINION-i don’t know you Nixxx, I am not making a statement about your body and what works for it, I am just trying to help if possible).

No offence taken, it’s just that your opinion is wrong. I know how to jelq correctly, it’s just that i don’t like every aspect of it. I tried wet and dry, fast and slow, firm and loose, it’s just not my thing and it is not crucial for hanging gains unlike what you wrote as proven by some of biggest gainers. No offence to you, but so far i seen multiple incorrect statements by you, if that’s the way you try to help maybe you wanna do some more reading. I still don’t understand why anyone who is already above 8x5.5 wants to do PE anyway (except health wise).