growth in tube "will" translate in erect gain later right assumption?

is it?

That’s the process. Continued stretching over time will result in permanent gains. If you are not doing so already, it’s best to combine pumping with jelqing, to aid in the cementing process.

Yep, that’s how it works for me too.

Growth or stretching?

You can slowly increase the vacuum to unreasonable levels, getting you penis to stretch further, however you will get a rebound reaction that will actually cause your unit to get smaller.

The proper way to tell ( in my opinion) is to daily take a measurement in tube at about 3 in hg with a good erection. Take about 2 minutes to make sure you are fully erect, then measure ( calibrate the tube).

Do this cold, before any pe. This will give you a accurate idea of your real growth.

When I first started pumping, I would use higher vacuum forces that would make me look great DURING the pumping, but result in shrinkage later.

Now, I am using 2-3 in hg, which isn’t as impressive DURING the pumping, but is resulting in nice steady gains when I come back and measure cold, and in real life.

If you measure carefully every day, you will quickly see if you are doing too much pe, and causing rebound shrinkage.

Sparky,

How long do you stay in the tube?

I would hope so, otherwise there’d be no point in pumping!

For the test, just long enough to get a good hard reading, about a minute or two.

I am taking a measurement twice a day, once in the morning when I first get up, then again in the evening. It is giving me a lot of useful information as to what effect my pe is having.

As far as my pumping routine, I am doing 3 sets of 5 minutes under IR heat. I then remove the heat and do 5-10 minutes cool down WHILE IN THE TUBE!

Between sets of 5 minutes, I have started to jelque. I only do it about 2 minutes, and will work up to 5 minutes.

While in the tube during my vacuum sets, I kegel. I try to hit about 100 reps each set.

As I said before, I find that I am getting good steady progress at about 2-3 in hg!

If I measure slightly shorter, I will skip the pumping for the day.

I try to use ADS during the day as long as possible…and here is what I’ve found.

One ring (Montys) will not stress my unit at all, almost therapeutic.

Two rings will give a gentle productive stretch that I can use even if I need a rest from pumping.

Three rings becomes a form of pe that will produce stress. This means I can’t do this in an unlimited fashion. It will count toward recovery time, meaning it will stress my unit and add to the amount of recovery needed.

What I see happening is that with time you can slowly increase the amount of stress you can apply to your unit and have it be productive, and recover enough that you can do it daily.

I find that at first with this routine, I would have to skip every other day, now I can do it daily, although I think daily has slowed my progress slightly.

I think the real trick is the frequent mild stimulus is more productive than massive stress less frequently.

If you aren’t frequently measuring, you’re really just guessing as to what is going on.

Many times you don’t make corrections until it becomes drastic and obvious…way late!

At the point you have major shrinkage or loss of erectile quality and quanity, you would require a layoff of a week or more to get back on track.

This is why many guys have limited results, really constantly over doing it.

Not for me, and I have 6 months of pumping experience at 4-8 in Hg, 30 minutes a day .

Although the willie is getting longer in the tube.

I think that applies to all PE techniques and should be adopted as a mantra.

I think it is safer and allows MUCH more total growth.

However, I think it is VERY tempting to get an extra inch fairly quickly with heavy hanging.

My role models in pumping are Avocet and Peforeal…they have really impressive gains, and no injuries or deformations.

They are real examples of slow, steady “growth” as opposed to stretched gains.

Hi other sparky!

Are you kegeling?

If you are seeing growth in the tube, but not in real usage…I think your erections are not hard enough to get your full expansion.

If you aren’t kageling, I recommend do em’ while you pump. That when I have started to do them, because I keep forgetting to do them during the day.

They really do make a huge difference in the “hardness” factor, and therefore will inflate your unit to its full potential.