No experience with pumping, considering water pumping

I’ve been reading over the threads here for a couple of days and I’m slowly putting together the data on pumping.

From what I read water pumping is the preferred method. Before I buy anything I want to make sure I get my facts straight.

I’ve read that the only things needed to water pump is a cylinder and a hose. Pumps, brake-bleeders, gauges are either optional or unneeded

I’m having trouble figuring out what size cylinder I should get. My base erect girth is ~4.4, MSEG is 4.6. My goals are both length and girth. What is a good site to buy the equipment?

Thanks for any help.

First, I don’t know that there is a clear preference for water pumping here. It has its advantages and disadvantages.

Second, for cylinder size, there is no finer thread than Selecting Your Cylinder Size .

What is a good site to buy the equipment? Depends at least in part on your budget. LA Pump and Vacutech seem to be the two quality leaders. Velseals from Pumptoys also may be good, although I don’t think we have had as many members using them. Others may be good but have more mixed reviews.

Check Pump Toys and LA Pump. Both have handy sizing charts. I would recommend practicing air pumping with a gauge to get a feel for what pressures feel like at various levels before starting water pumping. Otherwise keep the pressure low until you get a good feel for what you are doing.

I’ve stared at that chart for a long time before I made this thread. I’m basically at the upper limit for the 1.5 size. The last thing I want to do is spend a bit of money on something I’d get a limited use out of. Though LA pumps sizing guide also recommends the 1.5 one.

I’m on a limited budget so I’m trying to avoid buying unnecessary stuff. The cheapest hand pump I’ve seen is $40.

If I bought a cylinder from LA Pump and a hose (if they sell hoses without pumps) would I need any other attachments or couplers?

If you just buy a tube (no pump) you will need a coupler for the hose to the tube. which you can probably obtain from LA.

Then you could use your mouth for suction and bend the tube right over to maintain the vacuum - a spring clip can be used to hold the tube.

When I first made my pump I used that and it seemed quite satisfactory. but make sure you don’t use too much vacuum. Any spots bumps of other problems means too much vacuum.

But save up for a pump they really are the best bet if you intend to do regular pumping.

Good luck.

Petit

Do not use the cylinder sizing charts supplied by the pump manufacturers. If you do, they will sell you a cylinder that is too small and you will be buying a larger one in short order. Use our Cylinder Sizing thread that will give you the correct size that allows for expansion and will take a while to grow out of.

If you are at the upper limit, go for the next larger size. LA pump has a wide mouth cylinder (oval) which averages about 1/8 inch wider than the stated diameter. For example, the 1.5 is 1.5 across the the shorter measurement and 1.75 across the longest measurement so it averages 1.675. I was also at the upper limit of the 1.5 chart but ordered it anyway and packed it all the way within 1 month. I then ordered the 1.5 wide mouth and have been using it for four months and I am just beginning to pack it up to thr first 2 inches now. I will probably need to move up to the 1.75 within a month or so.

I also bought a cheap plastic cylinder which included a rubber bulb pump for about $20. I threw out the cheap cylander but attached the bulb pump to my good cylinders using a male coupler. It pumps nicely and you can also use your mouth to suck out the water through the bulb pump. The advantage of the bulb pump is that it includes a valve that holds the vacuum.

Cool, I didn’t notice the wide mouth cylinder. That seems better than buying a 1.5 and out growing it in a month.

What stores would sell the proper the proper tubing? I checked the part store websites mentioned in the forums but they only sell tubing per 25 feet. How much length is needed if you plan on using oral suction. (Eww, that sounded dirty) McMaster-Carr sells the coupler for very cheap, assuming they let you buy 1 and shipping isn’t crazy.

1/4 inch plastic or rubber tubing can be had at a hardware store or pet (aquarium) store for a few bucks. If you wash your dick first shouldn’t be a problem. My wife sucks it directly and doesn’t complain. 20 inches should be more than enough.

What are the disadvantages?

I tried asking in the water pumping thread, but did not get any replies.

I will most likely make pumping the main component of my routine, but I have not decided whether I should use water or air yet.

Go down to Harbor Freight and get their brake bleeder pump. I am pretty sure there is a store near you.

Brake Bleeder and Vacuum Pump Kit - ON SALE $24.95
ITEM # 92474

Brake Bleeder and Vacuum Pump Kit

It is excellent, well built. This is the pump I have. There is a long thread about it up top.

You will still need the hose and the male coupler. It comes with a black hose that smells like an old tire. It is water pumping capable.

I have pumped both air and water. I am way more likely to pump with air, rarely water.

To me water is a huge hassle. Get the pump set up to water pump with the extra tubing and overflow cup. Get the water just the right temperature, fill up the cylinder. By that time my erection is gone. Get erection back, oh now the water got too cold. Get water the right temperature. Oh it is too hot for my penis! Take it off, refill, erection gone again.

Air pumping is much easier to set up and works great. Lube the cylinder entrance, get hard, lube yourself, go in and start pumping. The end. (I do wrap the cylinder with heating pad)

Your mileage may vary, of course.

My take on water pumping is similar to sta’s.

My primary water pumping these days is done with the Bathmate, so it’s not as much of a hassle as it used to be. The Bathmate has the disadvantage of being a fairly specialized piece of gear, though, and it doesn’t have a gauge, so I generally don’t recommend it as a first pump.

When I did do water pumping with my air pumping outfit, though, there was the problem of keeping water out of the gauge - or, again, pumping gaugeless (I have a gaugeless fluid pump which works). If you’re pumping outside the bath or shower, there is the problem of dealing with water leakage if you lose the seal.

Air pumping, though, as sta describes, is much simpler - in fact, simpler still for me than sta describes. If I don’t have an erection going in, I just start slower, and pump just enough to get a good seal. Once I start getting expansion in the cylinder, I slowly increase the vacuum over the next several minutes. Easy and simple.

By the way, the reason you might not have gotten any responses in the water pumping thread is that some of the more fervent water pumpers do not concede that there is any disadvantage to water pumping. They are convinced that water pumping is the only way to go.

That’s the one I bought shortly after I made this thread a few months ago :p

I’ve been enjoying regular pumping and completely forgot about even using water.