Buckfever's Post Collagen Remodeling Theory Journal

The best thing to do is to take regularly time enough off from PE with the knowledge available. The more the better both short term and long term.

The study has produced great gains on Peyronies Disease patients, all of the participants were suffering from it.
My gains are exactly identical treating healthy penis with some non- pathological restrictions.

12/17/2020

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60 minutes @ 75 HT

Typically I find that the afternoon session tolerates less tension, independent of whether there is a morning session. Not sure what that means.
This session went well, with the terminus, showing it was well tolerated.

Procedure modification

12/18/2020

Something I noticed and building up to this. Long and short of it, at 5 minutes I reset the extender.

Basically at 5 minutes grabbing a good hold of the glans, releasing the silicone tubes from the rear lock, pulling up on the glans while at the same time pushing down on the extender and then relocking the silicone tubes one at a time.

This is allowing me to gain substantial forward position in the cradle taking advantage of the initial stress relaxation. This creates a much better mechanical advantage in the extender. However it will require that we rebuild the tension progression as the preload is much higher with this process.

I should have figured this a long time ago, but better late than never.

12/18/2020

60 minutes @ 65 Half turns/5 minute reset

12/20/2020

60 minutes @75half turns/5 minute reset/full tension @12.5 minutes

I think it’s something to consider, is how long in the process does it take to get to session tension and thus time under tension for the session.

Hello Buck, I am getting lost here. Is this some maintenance routine you are doing here, or full routine? I see you are going for short time in extender with high force rather than long time every Day. That is interesting since almost every extender user say that you need at least 6 hours a day in extender. Did you length changed only in extender or in bpel/nbpel/bpfsl area aswell? I am talking about that 1cm that you gained with this routine.

And do you have any idea how high force you are using with your extender?

This is for me a full routine. For maintenance I shoot for no more than 3 hours a week. Length change has been both in the extender and bpfsl although I do not monitor the latter often. I do not take erect measurements generally.

I had previously gained 4+cm some years ago, which is detailed in the previous log. Most of those gains occurred in the first 4-5 months.

I do not have a measure of how high the force is but I have learned to establish a very secure attachment so that some weeks ago I actually caused a blister. I think it is likely every bit as high as what is achieved with the Restorex device. Enough force so that it is bottomed out. So way higher than most extender users.

The guideline for how much force is the greatest force that allows for an hour of extender use and then I increase the tension. If I can’t get 45 minutes I think the tension is too high.

If you want to get really precise, I would say that I am looking for a tension that after that is achieved, time under tension of at least 30 minutes can be achieved. So for example if it takes 15 minutes to get to the max tension for the session then I would want 30 minutes of time under tension so a total of 45 minutes for the session. If that can not be achieved I would view the tension as being too high.

How secure and repeatable the attachment is, IMO is a critical part of the equation.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your answer. I am planning to read your previous log, this just caught my eye. I recently bought PMP extender and planning to start using it from new year so I am gathering informations everywhere I can.

Sadly I was not able to find how much force the restorex decice provide. So I am still on blind spot here.

I have read that Levine is now recommending and using the PMP himself but is recommending a minimum of 3 hours of daily use. I’m pretty sure there was a clinical article published recently on the PMP.

12/21/2020

55 minutes @80half turns/5 minute reset/full tension @13.5 minutes,88/25minutes.

Still posting 22cm, tension seemed to fall off after 20minutes so we bumped it. Thinking to go at it another 3 months and see if there is any additional accommodation. Got to believe that the holidays will pose a challenge.

This is the publication on the PMP:

Penile traction therapy with the new device ‘Penimaster PRO’ is effective and safe in the stable phase of Peyronie’s disease: a controlled multicentre study - PubMed

Nice, thanks for the info. I choosed PMP mainly for the vacuum head, because I could not make any noose type mounting, that come to my hands, working. It always slips right away. Probably because I am uncut.

I think little engine ran into problems with too much tension with the PMP in terms of blisters and I think others have as well. I think the PMP is a good system but I don’t think it’s designed for high tension. If it was me I would favor duration with that system shooting for at least 3 hours a day and then upping the tension slowly while maintaining the duration.

Probably something you’ve already figured out.

Buck is correct. With the PMP and other vacuum type attachment methods, definitely start with low tension and increase carefully. Glans conditioning is critical with these types of systems. With systems like the LG there are very nuanced wrapping techniques to mitigate blisters.

My first blister wasn’t pretty and after the second one I gave up on the PMP. On the second blister I made the injury worse by going back to PE way too early without allowing for proper healing. I’m still scarred from it. Buck and TNT warned me that I needed to take more time off, stubborn.

Ultimately I went back to standard strap and noose style systems.

12/22/2020

52.5 minutes @ 75 half turns, reset at 5 minutes

Kind of half asleep today.