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12/23/2020

60 minutes @ 85%

I’m going to regard 100 half turns 100% tension at a given extender length.


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There are multiple things I would like to test. One would be lower tension @ 3 hours a day for 3 months sionce so much data supports this idea. thing is my circumstances are not likely to ever lend themselves to such a thing.

The other thing would be to test multiple sessions/ day for 3 months. Say 30 minutes under tension twice a day for 3 months. I think that is something that I could pull off at some time in the future. Something to think about.


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12/24/2020

42.5 minutes @ 84%, reset at 5 minutes, 84%@15 minutes.

Pressed for time but got 27.5 minutes under tension.


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12/25/2020

60 minutes @ 75%, max tension @ 20 minutes

Kyrpa pointed out how past bottoming out the tension increases are a squared function. As such I think what I’m going to do is be measured in the tension increases. For sure I’m noting considerable relaxation by the end of the session. Will have to look to qualitative measures for guidance.


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12/26/2020

60 minutes @ 75%, 75%@16:40 minutes in.

Exerting some discipline keeping it here till the accommodation here is solidified. Would like to develop a structure to the progression.


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The biggest thing here is that upon this return the glans attachment is so secure that we are starting with a preload of tension much higher than previously, so from that point the tension build is not comparable to what was the case previously, so the incremental progression has to be moderated.

We are not getting blisters however, the stress on the glands attachment does not lend itself to multiple daily sessions, so it’s more than before for sure.

A bit of a question in my head are multiple daily sessions better than one?


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12/27/2020

25 minutes @ 65%


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12/28/2020

31minutes @ 70%

Glans discomfort required a restart at 15 minutes and then the preload(forward position) resulted in too much tension - pressure on the glans attachment.
Need to back off on the tension for this new process and give it time for accommodation.


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12/29/2020
38 minutes

Sorting out the tension.


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12/20/2020

60 minutes @ 65% tension, 65% @ 14 minutes.

One of the problems with what I’m doing here recently is that I have adjusted the attachment process which is altering the preload and thus the progression to session tension. Lacking precision in terms of measuring the actual load, I’ve had to use qualitative measures of how well the session duration is tolerated the length of the session duration and the stretched extender length. BUT with the improved attachment these loads are surely higher than previously.

Here Kyrpa wrote:

“With 1kg we need several hours to reach the strain and stimuli enough. With 2.5kg and utilizing stress relaxation the best we can, 30 to 40 minutes is enough to produce similar strain. Continuing to full hour that would be it.
For an example I can guarantee myself to have 2.2% strain in 40 minutes with loads 2 to 2.5 kg. After that no additional time or any more load does not yield a fraction more.
Similar was the case with Alex2.0 when I consulted him to test the loading in intervals.

Now seeing the Restorex regimen I went to replicate it with extender having the load cell on it.
Having precise 1.5kg load with a stress relaxation setup I wore the extender for one hour. Then taking a 10 minutes break to refresh the penis a bit to be continued another hour.
I took measurement between, but it looked to show only minor elongation so I didn´t even calculate the strain.
After two hours with perfectly tuned setup I could yield a 2.1% strain out of it.”

I’m going to talk about this more later, I have to run now.


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12/31/2020

45 minutes @ 65%


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
12/20/2020

60 minutes @ 65% tension, 65% @ 14 minutes.

One of the problems with what I’m doing here recently is that I have adjusted the attachment process which is altering the preload and thus the progression to session tension. Lacking precision in terms of measuring the actual load, I’ve had to use qualitative measures of how well the session duration is tolerated the length of the session duration and the stretched extender length. BUT with the improved attachment these loads are surely higher than previously.

Here Kyrpa wrote:

“With 1kg we need several hours to reach the strain and stimuli enough. With 2.5kg and utilizing stress relaxation the best we can, 30 to 40 minutes is enough to produce similar strain. Continuing to full hour that would be it.
For an example I can guarantee myself to have 2.2% strain in 40 minutes with loads 2 to 2.5 kg. After that no additional time or any more load does not yield a fraction more.
Similar was the case with Alex2.0 when I consulted him to test the loading in intervals.

Now seeing the Restorex regimen I went to replicate it with extender having the load cell on it.
Having precise 1.5kg load with a stress relaxation setup I wore the extender for one hour. Then taking a 10 minutes break to refresh the penis a bit to be continued another hour.
I took measurement between, but it looked to show only minor elongation so I didn´t even calculate the strain.
After two hours with perfectly tuned setup I could yield a 2.1% strain out of it.”

I’m going to talk about this more later, I have to run now.

So what Kyrpa has done here is quantified the “Sweet Spot” as far as tension. Anecdotally it has been conjectured that not enough tension leads to no gains but it has also been observed that there are those using high volume and high tension that have no gains. thoughtfulgold wrote extensively about the tugback response and conjectured that this was a clinical manifestation of using too much force and or volume.

One question I wonder about is whether the short rest between sets has any bearing in the accommodation or if it was simply the cumulative time under tension that the 2 sessions produced.

My inclination is to think that it is simply the time under tension for a particular load and the reason I think this, is because in the Restorex study they found no additional benefit to a third daily set, so it would seem that 1500 grams of tension for an hour will produce all the accommodation that is available.

So the question becomes what time under tension is sufficient at higher loads and what is the max load?

That’s the reason that I think this work by Kyrpa is significant, because he’s quantified it.

So how do we use this info in terms of execution?

I think you have to be careful with the load especially if you have sorted out the attachment issues so that it is solid.

If you can not get 30-40 minutes of time under tension without too much trouble the load is too damned high for sure.

If you can not develop a strain of 2% with a couple of sessions where there is 30-40 minutes of time under tension in each session, the load is probably too low for a high tension approach.

There is more to consider in a lower tension high duration approach but it has not been of interest to me as my circumstances would not allow it.

FWIW


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1/1/2021

60 minutes @ 60%, reset @ 5 minutes, 60% @ 15 minutes. Time under tension: 45 minutes.

With the improved attachment am concerned about too much load.


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
So what Kyrpa has done here is quantified the “Sweet Spot” as far as tension. Anecdotally it has been conjectured that not enough tension leads to no gains but it has also been observed that there are those using high volume and high tension that have no gains. thoughtfulgold wrote extensively about the tugback response and conjectured that this was a clinical manifestation of using too much force and or volume.


The time under tension becomes critical to penis health and for recovery timeline from the exercises.

I am not taking any standpoints now of where the responses come, but soreness and overuse symptoms are present easily after + 2 hours applications of any kind.
With more than 2.5kg loads by any means in particular if not using heat.

For me the soreness after two hours with 1.5 kg in extender is greater than the regular, starting from 2.3 kg going up to 5 kg during one hour session including 20 minutes US.
The two hours cold was still felt following day which is never happening with the heat cycle protocol.

Originally Posted by Buckfever

One question I wonder about is whether the short rest between sets has any bearing in the accommodation or if it was simply the cumulative time under tension that the 2 sessions produced.

My inclination is to think that it is simply the time under tension for a particular load and the reason I think this, is because in the Restorex study they found no additional benefit to a third daily set, so it would seem that 1500 grams of tension for an hour will produce all the accommodation that is available.

Can be that the benefits of cyclical stretching are not valid if the singular elongation duration is already hour long. Keeping the extending sets at 30 minutes and doing three of them with short breaks could take benefits form the cyclical nature. I really don´t know without testing.

Originally Posted by Buckfever

So the question becomes what time under tension is sufficient at higher loads and what is the max load?

That’s the reason that I think this work by Kyrpa is significant, because he’s quantified it.


You know what I am supposed to say, don´t you. I give you a hint: strain.

Originally Posted by Buckfever

So how do we use this info in terms of execution?

I think you have to be careful with the load especially if you have sorted out the attachment issues so that it is solid.

If you can not get 30-40 minutes of time under tension without too much trouble the load is too damned high for sure.

If you can not develop a strain of 2% with a couple of sessions where there is 30-40 minutes of time under tension in each session, the load is probably too low for a high tension approach.

There is more to consider in a lower tension high duration approach but it has not been of interest to me as my circumstances would not allow it.

FWIW

That is a good starting point already. Now rolling up the sleeves, and a little homework left before in no time you have composed yourself a gaining program.


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When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

1/3/2020

60 minutes @ 65%, reset @ 5 minutes, 65% @ 15 minutes. Time under tension: 45 minutes.

Settling into it now.


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