Buckfever's Post Collagen Remodeling Theory Journal

2/5/2021

Follow up, post session I noticed a small blister formation-tiny no fluid through the tissue, so 72% tension for an hour is too much. We’ll back it off Sunday and see how we go from there. I’m not discouraged indeed based on the glans position in the cradle I think we’re doing well, we’re just at that point where we need to be very precise with how we progress. 66% was no problem so thinking we’ll split the difference and give that a go.

2/7/2021

60 minutes @ 66%

Took the tension down we’ll see how it goes.

2/8/2021

44 minutes @ 69%, reset at 5 minutes, session tension @ 14 minutes, time under tension 30 minutes.

2/9/2021

42.5 minutes @ 60%, reset @ 5 minutes, session tension @ 12.5 minutes, time under tension 30 minutes.

Just to go over this again, at five minutes since there is some stress relaxation, I reset the attachment by popping the noose out of the notches on the back side of the cradle, pulling up the glans while pushing down on the extender with one hand and pulling the noose tighter one end at a time and resetting in the notches. This puts the glans in a more forward position in the cradle so that the tip of the glans is well forward of the end of the extender.

This is a very secure attachment which is great, however some caution needs to be applied as the tension build up can be so high as to lead to blister formation and a clear indication that the tension is too damned high.

2/10/2021

60 minutes @ 66%, session tension @ 16.5 minutes.

So it seems I’m back to the 66% tension. Glans condition at the end of the session is quite good, suggesting a tension that is better tolerated. I think I’m going to stay there for the balance of the month and then give a small increase in tension a go next month and see.

It is interesting to me that there seems to be a very narrow band of tension over which the tissues simply cannot handle the tension and then you just wind up spinning your wheels as the bruising/blistering of the tissues requires time off or a pull back of tension or load below the therapeutic range to allow for healing.

This is another construct for considering the sweet spot. A therapeutic range of tension. Is the tension sufficient for accommodation - how are the tissues holding up?

Unplanned intimacy yesterday, EQ was good. And I think that’s another thing to look at. Kyrpa has recently intimated that if the therapeutic range is exceeded then the EQ will suffer and has suggested that if there is not recovery within a day of rest the tension/load is too high.

I think keeping the tension fixed for three weeks may provide useful insights.

2/11/2021

53.5 minutes @ 68%, session tension at 13.5 minutes.

68% because I was half asleep.

2/12/2021

54 minutes @ 70%, session tension @ 12.5 minutes.

I upped the tension as I was curious to see how the tissues would hold up after a week and they did but the very early stages of inflammation seemed to be there, but the tissues held up, no blister formation, no bruising.

This tells me that the lower tension is sufficient to usher in accommodation. It’s just going to be a very slow process, slower than what I would like but I have to accept that. So maybe I’m looking at 4-6 months instead of three to get to the additional accommodation that I was hoping for.

What am I looking for? Well there was a quick 1 cm gain after the long hiatus and now I would say that an additional 1/2cm gain would make for a successful campaign. And I absolutely believe that if we can get to 100% max tension at this extender length that result would be realized.

This is certainly an exercise in discipline and I fully appreciate how after newbie gains are realized additional results are not so easily attained.

So back to 66% for the balance of February and we’ll test again in March.

2/13/2021

60 minutes @ 66%, session tension at 12.5 minutes.

That’s reset noose at 5 minutes to gain forward position, take it to 24% tension at 7.5 minutes, 48% tension at 10 minutes, 66% tension at 12.5 minutes and held there for the duration of the session, thus time under tension 47.5 minutes.

Tension well tolerated.

Nice set Buck.

Why don’t you count the entire 60 as time under tension?

2/14/2021

60 minutes @ 66%, session tension at 12.5 minutes.

That’s reset noose at 5 minutes to gain forward position, take it to 24% tension at 7.5 minutes, 48% tension at 10 minutes, 66% tension at 12.5 minutes and held there for the duration of the session, thus time under tension 47.5 minutes.

Tension well tolerated. Finished well forward in the cradle. Gaining momentum here.

This is a good question. There’s a couple things here. I tend to be in agreement with Kyrpa that there is an initial stress relaxation that needs to occur first before you achieve a therapeutic range of tension. Looking at strain Kyrpa found that 30-40 minutes of therapeutic tension achieved all that was available in a session. I’m not saying with certainty that his theory is correct but for sure as a heuristic it correlates to results. It’s a data point what ever meaning you ascribe to strain.

Anecdotally I found that shorter sessions required multiple daily sessions - my earliest efforts, but also found that a single daily session needed to be longer for results to occur. As we have seen in this most recent effort. From this I hypothesize that it’s the time under session tension goal that is the measure we need to consider.

Also there is the Restorex research trials. Their device theoretically when used correctly creates a more secure attachment than other traction devices. In their study they found that 2 X 30 minutes with a 30 minute break between sessions created a better result than 1 session, but also that 3 sessions did not produce additional gains. If you think of their first session as creating the stress relaxation and the subsequent sessions as the time under tension then it would seem that 30 minutes of time under tension gets you there whilst there are substantially diminishing results to 60 minutes of time under tension when 3 sessions were performed. From that one would figure optimal would be closer to 30 minutes rather than 60 minutes. Which at the very least serendipitously correlates to Kyrpa’s 30-40 minutes.

This whole thing comes down to enough load and time to realize results, without too much load and time to trigger a protective response. And there is a matter of efficiency because there’s just too much anecdotal evidence to suggest that for a time there are diminishing returns so that all available treatment benefits have been realized until there is sufficient tissue remodeling for additional therapeutic benefit to be available.

The construct is to realize what is available to get to the remodeling period which can not be circumvented or shortened.

Thanks for the response Buck, I definitely see where you are going. I typically consider the beginning of sets and earlier sets as warm-ups, so this resonates.

Good stuff, I appreciate the strategic and methodical approach. This is definitely not “lazy PE”, which is a lot of what I am doing right now.

I’m enjoying your thread my friend, be well.

I think the big remaining questions for me are, once past the initial easy accommodations, how much time to give a particular tension for accommodation and how much incremental tension to add for the next accommodation. Getting from where I am at right now at 66% tension to 100% tension is about 6-7mm. The 6-9 month data of the Restorex study suggest that took about 3 months, but it is not clear to me that the point of diminishing returns was fully realized given how little overall load was used in their protocols. It’s really too bad that we don’t have long terms data on any extender study.

I’ll have some better insights in about 10 weeks.

2/15/2021

52.5 minutes @ 66%, session tension @ 12.5 minutes

Finished well forward in the cradle. Continuing improved glans condition at end of session. I think the qualitative assessments may be the most important measures in this process. And it takes time to gain that perspective.

2/16/2021

60 minutes @ 66%, session tension at 12.5 minutes.

Steady as she goes.