Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Hey Kyrpa BTW, the name Kyrpa without knowing what it was, my brain always related it to a name of an Ewok. The little bear like creatures from Star Wars LOL. Kinda like “chief Kyrpa” LOL

Wow. That is a extensive leap of imagination by some degree.

Being away for some time I had received many kind of requests and questions privately.

I hope I did answer them all, if someone did not receive answer it was dismissed accidentally.

I appreciate all thinking that I could help them, but unfortunately it is not possible.

For the questions about conventional methods there is plenty of excellent info around the forum.
For the newbies I believe there are really helpful people happy to answer if something bother you.
I don´t think I am the best one at all to help in those kind of situations in the first place.

In the future I would appreciate if contacting me directly it would involve some specific problem you have found with the concept introduced here,
or at least it has some kind of touch on the topics presented.
And even then it would best to make it publicly because there might be someone else pondering same issues already.

Another thing is that I am not going to have private customers to be coached anytime soon.
If I would it should be really expensive so for everyone’s sake lets keep it going like it is.

I would prefer collaboration with other enthusiasts having publicly documented progress in production already.
Does not matter if it is on your own log or the issues being opened in my threads if it has the relevancy.

For all I wish all the best of course, it is just that I don´t have all the time in the world anymore even if I would love to help people unconditionally .

Hi Kyrpa !

Is there a simple resume or some popularization of your protocol somewhere ?
Its really difficult to read between 120 pages of (very) scientifical terms, even more when English is not your mother tongue.
Actually I can’t define what the main protocol is beyond all the statistics and theorycrafting displayed in this thread.

So if there is a way for a simple understanding of this, please make me know !

Thank you

Yeah. I have been planning to start a new volume with the simplified description of the concept as a starter. No explanations or complicated premises, just the bones of it.
Maybe I will. It has been long time coming though.

Hi Guys, quick question.

Must the US-Part of our stretch-phase also be strictly a stress relax setup or can it follow a creep approach?

Hello,

Yes. Especially the heated part can be produced under constant load, continuous stretch.
If the therapeutic temperature is reached the heat makes the tissue to deform under the tension, no matter how the tension is applied. Actually the way I have tensioned the tissue under heat has been in mostly continuous load.

The stress relaxation type exercise has some advantages in general but I don´t see why not utilize creep only protocol,
apart from the cooldown phase after removal of the heat. For the finale I see the stress relaxation being clearly superior.
Produced either with static stretch or cyclical stretching.

For the first part before the heat I have managed to get similar strain either way , but the creep procedure taking more time to produce the strain.

For the given time , as for me it has been 30-40 minutes, the stress relaxation yielding the maximum potential already.
I am in no favor of longer than 60-70minutes total duration for the session, so it has been a clear choice.

The most valuable aspect of the whole US aided protocol is that the tissue need to be stretched for the maximal elongation during the heat and continued to do so during the stage the tissue cools down. With the protocol I have managed to do so.

Just noticed that I was using a term having negative sound with it. Wanted to express the actually positive emphasis I was looking for.

If the therapeutic temperature is reached the heat makes the tissue to mould under the tension, no matter how the tension is applied. Actually the way I have tensioned the tissue under heat has been in mostly continuous load.

Thanks for the detailed insight Kyrpa. Very helpful as always.
How long would you think would maximum elongation during the first part before the heat take with constant load/creep?

Thank you for your interests.

Because if working at low level loads at the first part, and the elongation range we are after at the time is proportional to the load used.
The tissue elongating at the toe region of the stress strain axis is very elastic and therefor very linear on behaviour.
The problems start to occur later if passing the stiffening point aka the transitional region has been reached and the visco-elastic nature kicks in.

And we will reach it, prematurely with excessive loading and as wished with the potential elongation within the toe region has been explored.

That said I have repeated similar strain extending and stretching with the hanger with both methods.
Using creep method with ~1 - 2 kg load for an hour to hour and a half and the stress relaxation with loads of 2 -2.3 kg in 30-40 minutes.
Despite several trials I never had additional elongation with either method increasing time or adjusting the load in each direction, up or down.
There seemed to be a bracket within to workout. I need to retain the rights to revise the creep timing if I ever get to explore it more.

I have to mention that at the moment I struggle to reach the usual strain I have came familiar with. I don´t know if it the passing illness is somehow affecting the outcome or what.
After all I am suffering the soreness of the joints and muscles all over the body. The covid 19 it was.
Maybe I need to re-evaluate the loading - timing axis for me as well. Lets see.

Hi Kyrpa and others,

Can you guys please suggest me a routine for length.

So I have this steel cord. My BPEL is almost the same as BPFSL(6.4”). I can pinch out this cord with two fingers. It runs from the base to the head. I have an upward and left curve as well. The only PE I have don is s2s for 2 months, 2 years ago without any heat and didn’t gain anything. And then I learned about this septum got depressed that I won’t be able to gain and gave up.

This thread gives me hope. Now due to pandemic my country is in lockdown so I won’t be able to buy an US for months. Earlier I was planning to wait for the pandemic to end but now I think it might take too long so I don’t want to waste any more time.

Can you guys suggest the best routine that doesn’t need an US machine. Some routine involving heating pad or any other easily available product.

I don’t have an vacuum extender or any other device either. I am just tired of being depressed and insecure about my size. Please help.

First ditch that word “depressed” there is not time for that bullshit. Those are excuses. Man up, stand up and make things happen. Also realize these gains take time. Prepare yourself for a journey. Set yourself yearly goals. Once you start with a routine, it really help to measure every single day. Even a millimeter of difference after 1 or 2 weeks, is all you need to see to keep it consistent.

This thread is mostly Kyrpa’s focus on novel approaches for the septum that includes Ultrasound, but I would definitely advise you to keep reading it and following it. I can guarantee you, people will quote and refer to this thread for generations to come.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of newbie routines to start with stretching and aid by heat. I personally could not come up with a routine because I started this over 20 years ago, but be curious. Get in here. Start reading. Start reading logs. Use the search function and will bring you amazing results.

And always remember, YOU CAN make gains and YOU WILL make gains.

Nice post igigi

Hello Meliodas,

It is not nice to read about your desperation. It sounds like you are not satisfied with your life. We are all just guests on earth here and therefore we should make the best of it.
What would I do in your place? Very simple: fight!
I can not assess the situation in India, so I rely on your statements. If I were in your situation, then I would try to make the best of it with the available means. In the concrete case this means: Instead of US try IR. There are users here who connect Kyrpä’s protocol with IR: Cbateman’s journey to perfection

I don’t know if you have IR available, but maybe this advice will help you. Anything that brings heat is helpful.
Besides that, I would like to agree with igigi. Fuck "depressed", concentrate on your goals. We don’t have to look for problems, but for solutions! I wish you good luck on your way!

Thanks for the encouraging reply IGIGI,

Yeah the US protocol gives hope. I was planning to start with the US approach but I am not sure how long it’s gonna take for the Covid situation to get better here. So I thought I don’t wanna waste any more time. I might not be able to gain without US but I’ll try anyways. I posted here because most of the people that follow this thread are limited by septum. So I was hoping someone could suggest me the best routine.