Gaining volume with Kyrpa

I assumed that the reason for using a sleeve was clear to everyone. Apparently, I was wrong, sorry.

In a nutshell: If you are not using US OTL, you need a “leg replacement”. This is the case with extenders or hangers, for example, and that’s what the US phantom is for. Have a look here, where the topic is explained by Krypa: Heating problems with extender users.
In the attachment of the linked post you will find the scheme in the form of a sketch.

It is not advisable to do without US gel! For an optimal coupling you always need US gel! Here I use the gel between transducer and penis and between penis and phantom (plenty of it here!).

The heating or heat-storing effect of the phantom is an additional benefit.

I guess if you apply a rubber band at the base of the phantom and the top of it just slightly tight, will secure the gel inside in place form squeezing out.

Hey mister kyrpa, Iam on page 4 of your thread and I wanted to ask if the 3 stretching days followed by a am 2or3/restday is the best approach to see the gains manifest more fast, I feel that doing PE 6 to 7 days a weak will delay the gains to manifest and that’s why some report gains after stoping PE for 1 to 2 weeks. I started 3 months ago and got the newbie gains and did a 6 days on 1 day off approach 8 weeks on 1 off, should I do 4 to 5 weeks on , 3days on 1 off, and 1 week rest, based on your personal observations?

As discussed on page 107 of this thread, I purchased and tried SmoothOn DragonSkin20. What can I say: the result is excellent. The stuff works perfectly as an US phantom and the theory is confirmed.

Attached you can see a picture of how the phantoms look like and how I built them. A sewage pipe was used as a mold. To model the back of the penis, I used another pipe. The phantom can be cut to length, it is easy to work with. When using the phantom, you should not stint on US gel, because the surface of the penis is not reproduced 1:1. The wall thickness is about 10 mm.

I measured with 4 thermocouples between dorsal side and phantom along the shaft, US applied ventrally.
The measurement in the urethra I did not dare then, this is tough stuff for tough guys. In addition, the measuring point on the dorsal side is also close to the septum. After 7-8 min I cracked the 40 °C and the temperature settled between 41 and 42 °C. The US transducer is a device similar to the one recommended here (1.6 W/cm^2, 4 cm^2, BNR 5:1, 1 MHz). The Phantom warms up evenly and, in my opinion, also serves as a heating pad over time, somewhat compensating for the thermal fluctuations.

In my eyes, this is a good alternative for all hangers/extenders, as the material is durable.

Have a nice Sunday!

As a scientific oriented person and Engineer, I love this thread. While I have kinda been keeping up, I need to go back and read this thread and the various ultrasound threads from the beginning so I can understand and appreciate the thought process abs developments along the way. This is something I will do but when working 60-70 hour weeks, juggling kids and PE sessions, there isn’t too much time left to read everything.

What would be very helpful are some instructional videos explaining the theories and science and then demonstrating the actual techniques and protocol.

This could be done on a dildo as opposed to a person, however, I am very much a visual learner. There are things I have read on several different threads, on various aspects of PE, which I though I was emulating properly. However, I would then see a video and it instantly made a tremendous amount of sense to me. There were also some very confusing threads about how to tape your glans to prevent blisters. I was so confused until I saw a couple of videos.

I know others have suggested a new thread which has the meat and potatoes of the protocol and process so it can be emulated more accurately. It would be more of a baseline guide of this is what you have to do, here are some videos, here are the excel sheets, this is the process to share data, etc. More of a cut to the point thread.

I think someone suggested labeling the protocols as they can change overtime.
Maybe a new link like this would be called Ultrasound Protocol 2.0.

Maybe the actual discussions and comments about discussing the protocols can still take place on the existing threads as these existing threads help keep track of the development of the protocols, and understanding of the science, throughout the years. It is important to learn about the past to understand the now and have a basis to look forward to the future. I love the advanced search function of our forum. It is amazing and I have learned so much from it.
However, there are times when I get lost and am reading the history of pumping/hanging or clamping as opposed to the best practice(s) guide. Don’t get me wrong, I have and am learning a lot from the experiences of others along the journey. I have many of the same questions as others and they are already answered without me having to ask. There are so many interested ideas and information I have stumbled across by searching, sifting and reading. The experimentation of others has helped save me from making some of the same mistakes they have and have shown me better ways to progress in PE. However, reading through many threads, I get a bit confused as what is the current best practice and start thinking I should try some of the older methods.

As much as each of our Dicks respond differently to PE, we each learn by different modalities. So I am respectfully raising my hand and asking for help. Can a simplified ultrasound protocol 2.0 thread be created which only contains the information and videos on how to execute the protocol and leave all the discussion on the existing threads? Basically an “Idiot’s Guide to the application of ultrasound therapy for PE.” I also think this would be a further step in standardizing the practice and allowing for greater consistency of technique to help keep the data more accurate. For example, I read threads explaining how to move the transducers, in which patterns, directions, durations. I am still a bit confused. A minute long video would clear it up for certain. A few more minuets of the full protocol abs how to measure and record data would be tremendous. If a picture is equivalent to 1,000 words, then a video is 1,000 words times 30 frames per second (depending on which video standard is being used, 😜).

If the protocol evolves in a minor way, tracking it as protocol 2.1 would be very helpful and easier for everyone to follow along and be aware of the changes. A major protocol revision would jump to version 3.0 as an example.

I think this approach would get more people involved on top of the consistency. I also think the 2.0 thread should contain a warning video and suggestions on when to add ultrasound to one’s routine. To me, it seems like a black belt technique abs there are other skills to learn and master first. There are other ways to gain from PE first and it seems wise to save ultrasound for the time one truly stalls out on gains after working the plethora of other PE exercises and devices. However, there will be people who are new to PE and just want to jump in to ultrasound. I suppose this is ok but it would also be good to notes this on the data. A Newbie to ultrasound may still have Newbie gains which in part, may not be directly correlated to the ultrasound protocol.

My apologies if any of this comes off the wrong way. My intentions are respectful and I believe in PE and I really believe in ultrasound and thank those who have researched and developed the protocols and have put it to the test and who are sharing this with Our Community. You are the Pioneers who have, and continue to pave the path for the rest of us.

For now, I am getting back to hanging after my mini decon and am working my way up to earning my PE Black Belt so that I feel ready that I have earned the right to delve into Ultrasound therapy.

Your phantom looks legit. What you think of the material by now. Could it be robust enough to stand the forces of the use if molded as a ring to be moved along the shaft during the exercise firmly squeezing the shaft.
Molded Inside the outer sleeve made out of plastic pipe . The transducer fixed in it .

Krypa good point. One question off point I think, that quote under your stats could you dumb it down for a non technical guy like me?

Rocco.

This is what I am thinking, transducer is fixed in the frame made out of plastic pipe.
In more advanced version the transducer is degreed to make the reflection bounce in angle.

Inner part is molded out of silicone rubber.
The assembly can slid along the shaft using the gel as a lubricant.

Thanks for the sketch. I also understood it that way, but now it is clear that we are talking about the same!

If the material thickness of the silicone is large enough, I am convinced that the silicone can withstand it without problems. It should have at least a couple of millimeters. What may not be easy is the connection between the plastic pipe and the silicone, there will be difficulties with the adhesion and you probably will not get around a form fit. You can implement this, for example, with holes in the plastic. If you choose the wall thickness of the silicone thick enough, then you will not need a plastic tube in my opinion.

You could even spin this further and integrate the transducer into the mold. Then the silicone would enclose the head and it is assured that the head will stay in place. Because of the elasticity of the material, this will certainly be demoldable if you want to remove the transducer. Since the silicone is cold cast, this should not be a problem with the transducer when the mold is made. The transducer is then part of the mold. By the way, you can implement an angular position of the head without significant additional effort, just turn the head in the mold before casting. If I were you, I would tend to use DragonSkin10, since this material is softer.

However, I don’t understand why you would want to go to such effort. If we apply US ventrally and use a phantom dorsally, that works fine too. For sure, you can optimize the working point of the US with the silicone in front of the transducer, but is that really necessary? As a great friend of the Pareto principle, I don’t see the necessity.
In addition, there is another aspect: Perhaps you still remember “my problem” with the loose skin on my device (p. 104f). For me, such a setup would be out of the question, since I would only be pushing my skin back and forth. I don’t think I’m the only one with this “problem”.

If you want to have the spacer on the transducer, a two-part solution would also be conceivable:
- Ventral: a silicone cap for the transducer, it as shown in the attachment (silicone_spacer).
- Dorsal: US phantom as suggested by me.

I am not going to be producing the guidance material. Hopefully someone having the experience with monitored temperatures already would do it . I feel that I need to move forward already with focusing on development of the bigger picture .

Igigi if you are volunteering to produce the material, I would need you to monitor the temperature between the shaft and the thigh during the practise for followers to actually see the temperature development in a relation to time.
Two measuring points at least.

Your phantom looks legit. What you think of the material by now. Could it be robust enough to stand the forces of the use if molded as a ring to be moved along the shaft during the exercise firmly squeezing the shaft.
Molded Inside the outer sleeve made out of plastic pipe . The transducer fixed in it .

I am not going to be producing the guidance material. Hopefully someone having the experience with monitored temperatures already would do it . I feel that I need to move forward already with focusing on development of the bigger picture .

Igigi if you are volunteering to produce the material, I would need you to monitor the temperature between the shaft and the thigh during the practise for followers to actually see the temperature development in a relation to time.
Two measuring points at least.

I will.

In fact, for my next period I will be tracking temperature constantly with 4 thermocouples simultaneously.

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The tiny probes makes it easy to tape them against the septum at 4 different points between the leg and penis.