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Originally Posted by Meliodas_222
Thanks for the encouraging reply IGIGI,

Yeah the US protocol gives hope. I was planning to start with the US approach but I am not sure how long it’s gonna take for the Covid situation to get better here. So I thought I don’t wanna waste any more time. I might not be able to gain without US but I’ll try anyways. I posted here because most of the people that follow this thread are limited by septum. So I was hoping someone could suggest me the best routine.

If your BPFSL is longer than your current BPEL you should be able to gain some more length.
If not you may be able still to gain some more girth which would be welcome for most of us.

Use some conventional heating method, heated rice sock, heat pad, hot wet towel, while waiting for your US machine to arrive someday.
Concentrate on workouts producing expansion on your unit, various manual exercises being priorities the priority.
Start with the beginner programs found here and move on to manual stretching and bending exercises in every angle which I truly believe are fitting for the job.

But if having the very restricting cord recognized this early, hanging to extending are not the way to proceed.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Rocco25
Hello Meliodas,

It is not nice to read about your desperation. It sounds like you are not satisfied with your life. We are all just guests on earth here and therefore we should make the best of it.
What would I do in your place? Very simple: fight!
I can not assess the situation in India, so I rely on your statements. If I were in your situation, then I would try to make the best of it with the available means. In the concrete case this means: Instead of US try IR. There are users here who connect Kyrpä’s protocol with IR: Cbateman’s journey to perfection

I don’t know if you have IR available, but maybe this advice will help you. Anything that brings heat is helpful.
Besides that, I would like to agree with igigi. Fuck "depressed", concentrate on your goals. We don’t have to look for problems, but for solutions! I wish you good luck on your way!

Thanks for the motivational words Rocco. It’s not like I don’t have access to an IR or US but due to the pandemic, I am working from home and have to live with my parents so can’t bring an IR or US device home.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
If your BPFSL is longer than your current BPEL you should be able to gain some more length.
If not you may be able still to gain some more girth which would be welcome for most of us.

Use some conventional heating method, heated rice sock, heat pad, hot wet towel, while waiting for your US machine to arrive someday.
Concentrate on workouts producing expansion on your unit, various manual exercises being priorities the priority.
Start with the beginner programs found here and move on to manual stretching and bending exercises in every angle which I truly believe are fitting for the job.

But if having the very restricting cord recognized this early, hanging to extending are not the way to proceed.


Thanks for replying Kyrpa,

My BPFSL is almost the same as BPEL. But if I measure it after heating the unit with a heating pad or something it increases by 1cm.

Can you suggest which stretches would be best for someone with tough septum. Could s2s work? I have only done PE for 2 months in total so I guess I always had the septum. Also if I do girth work now. Will it hinder my ability to gain length in the future?

I didn’t get the last line about hanging to extending. Can you please explain.

Also does having low T affects one’s ability to gain?

Originally Posted by Meliodas_222
Thanks for replying Kyrpa,

My BPFSL is almost the same as BPEL. But if I measure it after heating the unit with a heating pad or something it increases by 1cm.

Can you suggest which stretches would be best for someone with tough septum. Could s2s work? I have only done PE for 2 months in total so I guess I always had the septum. Also if I do girth work now. Will it hinder my ability to gain length in the future?

I didn’t get the last line about hanging to extending. Can you please explain.

Also does having low T affects one’s ability to gain?

If you are getting 1 cm elongation with heatpad, you do not sound to be restricted that badly with just about anything at the moment.
Stay on the beginner program and continue from there onwards.

If you later find no more additional elongation on BPFSL , then you can start to think about some other solutions.

IF the user truly is severely restricted either with a tough septum or more often the dorsal thickening, any exercise which stretches the other parts is the way to go.
So you are able to stress tunica, CC, CS and the glans with expansion , stretches, bends and twists.
Without the aid of the advantaged heating such as ultrasound or hopefully IR, the restricting structure won´t be responding to any exercise whatsoever.
IT will not elongate ever no matter what.

It was hanging or extending I was about to say at the previous post.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
If you are getting 1 cm elongation with heatpad, you do not sound to be restricted that badly with just about anything at the moment.
Stay on the beginner program and continue from there onwards.

If you later find no more additional elongation on BPFSL , then you can start to think about some other solutions.

IF the user truly is severely restricted either with a tough septum or more often the dorsal thickening, any exercise which stretches the other parts is the way to go.
So you are able to stress tunica, CC, CS and the glans with expansion , stretches, bends and twists.
Without the aid of the advantaged heating such as ultrasound or hopefully IR, the restricting structure won´t be responding to any exercise whatsoever.
IT will not elongate ever no matter what.

It was hanging or extending I was about to say at the previous post.

Really sorry Kyrpa if I am asking same repetitive newbie questions.

So while erect my penis curves upward and to the left and I can clearly feel that if it weren’t for this cord my BPEL would have been longer. Also while stretching it straight out, I feel no pressure in ligaments or tunica and can feel that all the force is being taken by this septum. So I believe that septum is indeed my limiting factor.

So manuals are the go to? Hanging and extending won’t if septum is indeed my limiting factor right?

I believe I will be able to get an IR lamp. So will use that until I get my hands on an US Machine. Can you please tell if any of the following IR lamp can work.

https://www.ama … /dp/B08G1WPPG9/

https://www.ama … /dp/B000KKEFVK/

https://www.ama … /dp/B01N9G9C16/

Also sorry for repeating the question but any comments on low T levels affecting one’s ability to gain?

Originally Posted by Meliodas_222
Really sorry Kyrpa if I am asking same repetitive newbie questions.

So while erect my penis curves upward and to the left and I can clearly feel that if it weren’t for this cord my BPEL would have been longer. Also while stretching it straight out, I feel no pressure in ligaments or tunica and can feel that all the force is being taken by this septum. So I believe that septum is indeed my limiting factor.

So manuals are the go to? Hanging and extending won’t if septum is indeed my limiting factor right?

I believe I will be able to get an IR lamp. So will use that until I get my hands on an US Machine. Can you please tell if any of the following IR lamp can work.

https://www.ama … /dp/B08G1WPPG9/

https://www.ama … /dp/B000KKEFVK/

https://www.ama … /dp/B01N9G9C16/

Also sorry for repeating the question but any comments on low T levels affecting one’s ability to gain?

Okey. I see. What you are finding suggests something like that, but being on the program only for 2 months and getting the BPFSL beyond the BPEL length easily,
I would not jump to any conclusions yet.

Manuals over hanging or extending would be my pick

No I don´t think that the low T will prevent you from having gains.
If the T has been severely down for years it can be hindering the process though.

I am not specialized on the lamps. Any of them not providing any info on the emitted light type so hard to pick.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 05-23-2021 at .

It is great to have you back, Kyrpa!
I just saw your post in my thread but want to give a brief summary for the people who read this thread and might be beginners or followers of your disciples (I consider myself one).

I also want to thank you, Rocco25, for showing me that smart people are following my log and my effort is not wasted.
Let me give you guys a quick summary of how Kyrpa’s method worked out for me (modified with IR of course):
1) I prognosticated 2.6mm of BPFSL gains/14 days from Kyrpa’s extensive data. With close to 4mm/14 days or slightly more, I was on a good trajectory.
2) He suggested gains to stall after 70 days max. After 60 days of correct hanging, indeed my gains stalled. I am still amazed at the precision (maybe coincidence, but still).
3) Kyrpa spoke about 3mm of BPEL gains as a max.
I started with 16.7cm of BPEL and am now at 18cm of BPEL. The speed of growth is 3,33mm/month. How crazy is this? Of course, it doesn’t mean that my maximum growth rate is his, but at least it shows I’m on a good pace and it would be rather bad than good to change too much of my routine.

In conclusion, everything worked like clockwork so far. The BPFSL gains, when they stall, the transformation from BPFLS to BPEL through length-restricted pumping. The speed of gains was accurately predicted beforehand etc etc.
It was just one period and 1-1.3cm of gains (depends on how good my first measurement of BPEL was in the beginning of my PE journey). But if this is replicable, it is more than amazing.

@Meliodas_222: you will need 250w, everything less is garbage and won’t create enough heat. You could also buy a 250w IR light bulb and ceramic bearing which can withstand high temperature and build something cheaply yourself.
I’m not familiar with the indian market, but I personally use a 250w IR lamp from Phillips.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[currently decon until aug 2024] latest BFPSL: 21.2cm (8.35 inches) latest BPEL: 19.5cm (7,68 inches) latest NBPEL: 17cm (6.69 inches)

Click here to see my amazing US progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)


Last edited by CBateman : 05-29-2021 at .

Originally Posted by CBateman
It is great to have you back, Kyrpa!
I just saw your post in my thread but want to give a brief summary for the people who read this thread and might be beginners or followers of your disciples (I consider myself one).

I also want to thank you, Rocco25, for showing me that smart people are following my log and my effort is not wasted.
Let me give you guys a quick summary of how Kyrpa’s method worked out for me (modified with IR of course):
1) I prognosticated 2.6mm of BPFSL gains/14 days from Kyrpa’s extensive data. With close to 4mm/14 days or slightly more, I was on a good trajectory.
2) He suggested gains to stall after 70 days max. After 60 days of correct hanging, indeed my gains stalled. I am still amazed at the precision (maybe coincidence, but still).
3) Kyrpa spoke about 3mm of BPEL gains as a max.
I started with 16.7cm of BPEL and am now at 18cm of BPEL. The speed of growth is 3,33mm/month. How crazy is this? Of course, it doesn’t mean that my maximum growth rate is his, but at least it shows I’m on a good pace and it would be rather bad than good to change too much of my routine.

In conclusion, everything worked like clockwork so far. The BPFSL gains, when they stall, the transformation from BPFLS to BPEL through length-restricted pumping. The speed of gains was accurately predicted beforehand etc etc.
It was just one period and 1-1.3cm of gains (depends on how good my first measurement of BPEL was in the beginning of my PE journey). But if this is replicable, it is more than amazing.

@Meliodas_222: you will need 250w, everything less is garbage and won’t create enough heat. You could also buy a 250w IR light bulb and ceramic bearing which can withstand high temperature and build something cheaply yourself.
I’m not familiar with the indian market, but I personally use a 250w IR lamp from Phillips.

I am so happy you chose the way you are doing the hanging. I rambled into threads of young guys hanging with the ancient methods. Each every one of them fully focused on becoming a great hanger by conditioning themselves for hanging with 30- 40 lbs. None of them gaining and if you ask me, never will.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I have a question, been having issues gaining length for years. Read about ultra sound some years ago and am now thinking about getting a device. Anyone you recommend besides the US 2000? Price isn’t much of an issue, and maybe I should go for a 3 MHz if there is a good one available? Thanks

Originally Posted by Kingkongsdong
I have a question, been having issues gaining length for years. Read about ultra sound some years ago and am now thinking about getting a device. Anyone you recommend besides the US 2000? Price isn’t much of an issue, and maybe I should go for a 3 MHz if there is a good one available? Thanks

Hello,

The topic has been opened under the link below.
In addition here is always a full spec machinery out there with a price tag of thousands.

But these are used by the professionals already.

Kyrpa - Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hello,

The topic has been opened under the link below.
In addition here is always a full spec machinery out there with a price tag of thousands.

But these are used by the professionals already.

Kyrpa - Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

So the Soundcare Plus would be a good alternative, right? 3 MHz would also aid in heating up the septum to a pliable level in a shorter time span, is that correct? But higher frequencies doesn’t go as deep I assume, but that shouldn’t matter since it is so close to the surface?

Originally Posted by Kingkongsdong
So the Soundcare Plus would be a good alternative, right? 3 MHz would also aid in heating up the septum to a pliable level in a shorter time span, is that correct? But higher frequencies doesn’t go as deep I assume, but that shouldn’t matter since it is so close to the surface?


It is a good alternative.

It should be just as usable as 1MHz for the purpose.
Yes possibly faster if the user can tolerate the greater heating rate.
You can toggle between the frequencies if during the exercise if needed.

3MHz goes as deep as we need with the penis.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Eq

Kypra,

Out of curiosity how did you get on with improving your EQ?
If you did get improvements, what helped, and what helped most?
Any advice would be appreciated.

119 pages is a bit much to search through! 😅
Could you possibly summarise your experience for me please.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Meliodas_222
Hi Kyrpa and others,

Can you guys please suggest me a routine for length.

So I have this steel cord. My BPEL is almost the same as BPFSL(6.4”). I can pinch out this cord with two fingers. It runs from the base to the head. I have an upward and left curve as well. The only PE I have don is s2s for 2 months, 2 years ago without any heat and didn’t gain anything. And then I learned about this septum got depressed that I won’t be able to gain and gave up.

This thread gives me hope. Now due to pandemic my country is in lockdown so I won’t be able to buy an US for months. Earlier I was planning to wait for the pandemic to end but now I think it might take too long so I don’t want to waste any more time.

Can you guys suggest the best routine that doesn’t need an US machine. Some routine involving heating pad or any other easily available product.

I don’t have an vacuum extender or any other device either. I am just tired of being depressed and insecure about my size. Please help.

Frankly, you’ll get reasonable heat from a heated rice sock because the stretched penis loses blood flow and thins considerably. In my experience, this is just as effective as IR. The ability of IR to penetrate tissue to any reasonable depth is overhyped when it comes to heating the underlying tissues.

I use FIR to help maintain systemic temperature without requiring contact, but the internal temps simply cannot reach the levels of either US or RF without burning the skin. My advice, if you want to get started before being able to get a US device, just use a rice sock and get started.

And I agree with the other guys. Forget the depression crap. You own your life and all the good that happens in it. There’s no time for that nonsense.

For those interested in my work on RF heating, I unfortunately have some bad news. The more economical home use RF devices in the $100-1000 range simply do not have the required wattage to heat the underlying tissues. For that matter, they are a scam and cannot even heat the skin enough to meet the advertising claims.

What I can tell you is that RF works, but unless you want to build your own unit, it’ll currently cost you about $20k and PE sessions cost about $50 each to operate the machine DIY style. Unfortunately, there is only one company currently making a suitable device. I realize that this is cost prohibitive for many here, so I’ve jumped on that grenade. Having spent around $50k to test various devices now, I can affirm that there is currently only one usable RF device. I still firmly believe that the ultimate solution will be contactless focus field RF at around 27mHz. But the only device for that currently is ergonomically unsuitable and focus field presents dangers of accidental tissue contact. Let’s just say when you are generating a strong enough field of energy to penetrate through the tissues without contact, you don’t want to accidentally make contact with a small area and send all the energy through that area. Ouch!

I will admit one thing about RF. It is apparently much more selective to adipose tissue than US. This would be an issue if the penis had any fat, but it doesn’t, so not a problem. In the end it makes the device quite effective at both heating the penis as well as removing fat from the fat pad non-invasively. And on the abdomen, legs, chin, and anywhere else the body stores fat for that matter.


Last edited by Tutt : 06-23-2021 at .
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