Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Nice article. This can be a nice introduction in to topic. There are loose ends and lot of hypothesis involved, but these things are widely studied having so much knowledge useful in various medical applications.

Though the tissues we are trying to mold, tunica albuginea is more like a ligamentous structure due its more orientated structures than randomly organized fascial tissues, the mechanical properties are the same, as long as it comes to a mechanical stress and the adaptation.
The growth response step in at certain point of strain, the tissue no longer able to reach homeostasis within its adaptive limits.

What I have understand , we should move outside the injury premised (IPR) healing model.
Studies involving tissue elongation including penis extender studies are fully concentrated on the growth aspect. Mechanosensing and the adaptation and growth response. No injuries caused, no inflammation, none or very minor collagen III formation such as is known when restructuring injured tissues.
The proliferation is collagen I type from the start the inflammation responses being absent.
That would leave the remodelling being also step ahead, none or only minor turnover from collagen III to collagen I needed in the first place.

I would like to suggest you to read what to me the one of the most respected members of this forum, Pudendum wrote more than a decade ago. I can say that is the foundation in PE I also do build on when it comes to a penis growth mechanics we are after. He was actually describing this same mechanisms the most accurate and newest studies also indicate. I surely would like to get his views on the state of the knowledge now available.

Possible reason for PE induced growth

That’s something to read, I’ll have to get back to it though, it’s too much for my brain right now.

Thanks a lot, I didn’t find Pudendum’s threads up till now, I’ll definitely check them out!

Kyrpa,

I am reading through this thread and the site in general. I am new to all the PE stuff and largely ended up here because an illness wrecked several areas of my life including EQ and libido. This is def one of the best threads I have found so far!

Anyway I notice that on this forum most folks seem to measure gains by total growth. This original comment was in response to someone saying that you have the best gains of anyone ever on the site. At the time (April 2019) your stats were listed as:
START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18”) NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98”) GOAL 8.5”/ 6”

This got me wondering if people should be thinking in terms of a percentage growth based on starting place instead of total gains. I did the calculations and you had exactly a 25% Length increase in 6 months. If you look at the results from the study done with a sizegenetics extender they had an average increase of 29% over 8 months and that was among men who wore the device a minimum of four hours per day. Basically they hit 29% increase at 1000 hours of wear but the 1000 hours had to occur within 9 months. 1 hour a day for a thousand days isn’t the same. The study was published in a medical journal so it seems legitimate (I hope it is because I forked over a few hundred dollars to them). Looking at their study it looks like the first 8-12 weeks most men have a good growth spurt of around 10%, about 6% the next 8 weeks and then 5% per 8 weeks thereafter. These are all length gains, I don’t think girth was listed.

Anyway it seems like a percentage of growth might be a more reliable indicator and might give folks a better predictive range of what to expect. Especially since most of our end goals are about where you started.

Keep up the great work!

Hello viking,

Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate.

You are on the tracks with the percentual gain, it motivates more in personal level seeking for the personal gains, not comparing to others.
I think you are on the right track, but maybe you should expand the perspective even more.

The unit we are trying to craft is a three dimensional volume not a flat object stretched in length and width. If the percentual gains are what we are after then it should be calculated from the volume.

As far as I am concerned I am not in the all time gainers group when it come into absolute volume gains. I have grown the penis 67% to date and there are active users having more than 100% or even topping 150% volumetric growth. There is some more perspective on this.

There have been taken analysis of the gains in this site a years ago showing that the incremental length gains are not proportional to the original size.
That talks against the usage of percentage on length gains only in general.

Bearderddragon has composed a nice thread of biggainers highlights. He has been promoting the idea of seeking volumetric gains in other threads of his.

Volume is what I am after, the absolute indicator of the growing organ.

Keep sculpting that hammer of yours!

Smooth muscle fibers retain mitotic capacity and can therefore increase their numbers (hyperplasia) and they are also capable of increasing in size (hypertrophy.) While, connective tissue fibers have the ability to hypertrophy, they do not (at least to my knowledge) have the ability to regenerate their numbers. Connective tissue must be enlarged by plastic deformation. The approach to achieving a growth stimulus for both requires a two-fold approach.
The Pudendum thread is awesome.
I personally would think the best approach is to focus on the smooth muscle. Connective tissue will expand to fit the underlying muscle, in other areas of the body such as the biceps it is a common idea that the fascia (connective tissue) expands when the muscle grows. This is one reason many believe “the pump” is important, because the pump will expand the fascia and over time this expansion will cause the connective tissue to expand and allow for more expansion of the underlying muscle.

So it would make sense to me that a wise approach would be to focus on expanding the smooth muscle and tunica which would inherently expand the connective tissues of the penis and over time this expansion would solidify.
Marinera found some other studies that prooved static stretching alone can bring muscle gains/contractions, in my own words.

Excellent read. I almost bumped it so others could take note.

Hi, I found this device is it working with the required specifications

Product Features:
Combines therapeutic ultrasound and TENS for patients needing stronger therapy
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Beam Non-uniformity Ratio (BNR) 5:1 max
Small, unique design that is portable and easy to operate
Three treatment times (5 min, 10 min or 15 min)
Automatic power shut-off after 10 minutes
Power Source: AC/DC adapter
One year manufacturer warranty
Comes complete with:
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1x 2” x 4” white cloth electrode
1x set of lead wires
1x A/C power adapter
1x 2oz tube of ultrasound gel
Quick start guide and instruction manual
Hard plastic carrying case

Product Specs:
Main Device
Current Consumption: 18W
Working Current: < 1.1A
Safety Class: Class II, BF-type
Device Dimension (LxWxH): 7.9" x 1.9" x 2.8" in
Weight: 7.4 oz (210g)
Ultrasound
Acoustic Frequency: 1 MHz ± 10%
Temporal Maximum Power: 9.6W ± 20% (duty factor: 100%)
Pulse Repetition Rate: 100 Hz ± 10%
Duty Factor: 30%, 40%, 50%
Effective Radiating Area (ERA): 4.0 cm² ± 20%
Temporal Maximum Effective Intensity: 2.4W/cm²
BNR (max): 5.0
Beam Type: Collimated
Waveform: Pulsed
Treatment Time: 5 min, 10 min, 15 min
Material of Treatment Head: Aluminum
TENS
Output Characteristics: Constant Voltage (CV)
Treatment Time: 5 min, 10 min, 15 min
Output Wave: Bi-phasic square waveform
Carrier Frequency (C.F.): 2.5kHz
Sweep Low Beat Frequency (Beat L): 1Hz, 5Hz, 80Hz
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Maximum Output: 0-15V (at 500O Load)

https://www.ten spros.com/ultra … mbo-du6012.html

Hello,

This second machine already TENSPROS if not lie, at least they are misleading potential customers.

They say it has 9.6 W temporary max at 100% duty cycle. Means 2.4w/cm ^2

But surprise surprise it on has only 30% 40% 50% duty cycles programmed. Meaning you will only get out 4.8W , in other terms 1.2w /cm^2.
And not in continuous mode only 50% duty .
That company is so full of bullshit that I would not buy anything from them.

Real figures are seen in the manual:

https://www.ten spros.com/asset … 6012-Manual.pdf

Is it good or bad?

What are the specifications required for a good performance?

One which has continuous mode (100%Duty cycle) available.
Output intensity should be 1.6w/cm^2 or more. I am convinced 2.0 w/cm^2 being optimal.

Othewrwise the machine you showed is okey. BNR is 5:1 which is a minimum, the smaller the ratio the better the transducer.
ERA (effective radiating area) 4cm^2 is also okey, 5cm^2 should be quite optimal.

What would you suggest if I order this device or it does not heat the tissues well, is there a better one and what is a better device than it

This is what I use. US Pro 2000 Portable Ultrasound Therapy Device [Over 10,000 Sold!]
Actually I have two of them and use them as a pair.

This one I would buy if the money is not an issue. It is professional equipment already.
Couple of guys have used it on their penises and it has proven to be quality machine.

https://www.ten spros.com/sound … und-dq9275.html

The official website of the device

Https://www.roscoemedical.com/wps/portal/c/products/!ut/p/a1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOJdfSwDPbzdDQ3cA3yNDD y93F3NDB29DQ38DYAKIoEKDHAARwNC-sP1o_AqMTCEKsBjRUFuhEGmo6IiAMfJKlI!/dl5/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?itemNumber=DU6012

How to use the device how

https://www.ten spros.com/sound … und-dq9275.html

Look into Manko007 progress log how he used it. There might be videos available form the manufacturer or users in the youtube as well.