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How to use it on the penis

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi

How to use it on the penis

I think you should read this thread and others before asking questions like that. There are several threads here were you can read about different methods.

If you don’t can put the effort in to read up I don’t think you should consider US. It’s advanced PE and can hurt you.


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Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
How to use it on the penis

Patrik said it right. I urge you to study it.

All the necessary safety info is in my other thread, read it first.
Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

For the actual use follow these principles:

- Put the penis under stretch and keep it all the time during the heating*
- Tune the machine for maximum of 2.0 w/cm^2
- Use plenty of conducting gel
- Keep the transducer firmly against the shaft
- Keep it in constant slow movement not stopping at one spot for longer than few seconds
- Divide the shaft in two portions and heat the first one for 5 minutes
- Another half for 5 minutes
- After 10 minutes the heat start to be more uniformly distributed and you can start to move the transducer along the whole shaft.
- Movement being circular , the circles being overlapping keep the transducer in constant movement.

- In physical therapy the application is always used guided by the patients feelings.
If they feel it being uncomfortable the user start to move the transducer in faster pace and away from the spot for a moment.
If they feel any pain the intensity should be decreased.

* I have repeatedly measured best heat distribution and temperatures when the penis is against the top of my thigh. Using the flesh of my limb as a backing medium, in firm skin to skin contact between coupled with the gel.

Many extender users have had troubles heating the unit penis exposed to air.
Some have found significant help from using the other hand opposite the transducer, pressing the shaft between the transducer and their fingers.

Read the examples you can find and keep it safe. Do not try to use more intensity before you know how it works and you have learned how to heat the penis.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Do I use it when I wear the extender?
Did you use the ultrasound device on the erect or loose penis?
Do you use ultrasound on the extended sleeves?
How often is ultrasound used per day?
Do you use it in a suspension session?
Weights between session breaks, or when I hang weight, use ultrasound?
Do you use ultrasound for the length of my training session?

I have read all of your subjects and learned how safe I lack the ways to use the sound for my session. I do not know where to start. We need to explain how to use and how to insert the ultrasound into the routine and training, and how I benefited from the mighty weapon.
Thank you.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Do I use it when I wear the extender?
Did you use the ultrasound device on the erect or loose penis?
Do you use ultrasound on the extended sleeves?
How often is ultrasound used per day?
Do you use it in a suspension session?
Weights between session breaks, or when I hang weight, use ultrasound?
Do you use ultrasound for the length of my training session?

I have read all of your subjects and learned how safe I lack the ways to use the sound for my session. I do not know where to start. We need to explain how to use and how to insert the ultrasound into the routine and training, and how I benefited from the mighty weapon.
Thank you.

As others said before, absolutely everything has been explained already in this thread and other threads about the same topic. Read the thread Kyrpa pointed out, also read Manko’s thread with his own experience.

There is another thread about the Septum being the limiting factor which touches this topic too.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Do I use it when I wear the extender?


You use it in stretched mode being the device you use the extender , hanger or any kind of stretching assembly.
I just wrote in my las t post how I have find it being most effective. In the setup I use vacuum hanger cup with elastic bands. The load is determined by scale.

If you needed to know the specifics you read about it few hundred pages on this thread alone.
Then you read what longerstretch wrote about in his log ,as he has chosen similar routines. You read how more envelope pushing user Manko007 used it with hanger.
You may get inspired by the way DocJ described the use of it.
LitttleEngine and Mike03016 have been using it with extender setup.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Did you use the ultrasound device on the erect or loose penis?


Loose. I have never used in erect penis.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Do you use ultrasound on the extended sleeves?


No I have not. If the sleeve is made of silicon rubber it can be used through it though.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
How often is ultrasound used per day?


Once. Not everyday. Not every week. Eventually not every year.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Do you use it in a suspension session?


No. Only for short exercises build around the time under therapeutic heat. Never spend more than 30 minutes under US heat.
I have worked at stabilized 20- 25 min time under therapeutic heat during my 60-80 minutes lasting exercises.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi

Weights between session breaks, or when I hang weight, use ultrasound?


Ultrasound is only used during the exercise sessions. Which need to be build around the heating window.
If you spend 20 minutes under heat, this is the window you need to take advantage of. And the the 10 minutes cooling window after the heat has been removed.
Everything else is secondary.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Do you use ultrasound for the length of my training session?


Which ever are your exercise methods, use the US for the most valuable, main exercise aiming for maximal elongation.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi

I have read all of your subjects and learned how safe I lack the ways to use the sound for my session. I do not know where to start. We need to explain how to use and how to insert the ultrasound into the routine and training, and how I benefited from the mighty weapon.
Thank you.””

Well , you are right there is a demand for simple instructions, but you may understand that this is new and not ready “produdct” to be marketed for newbies.
A lot of expolrer mentality is needed and readiness for study , trial and patience is needed at this point from everyone.
Everyones input is valuable for the developement, and for the easy step by step instructions to be published some day.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 05-19-2020 at .

Thank you for your reply. I have completed my information. There is a question in my head. Using even a LG hangers. The head is covered, but hangers hang when weights. The shaft of the rod is covered with silicone sleeves. I bought SoundCare Plus Professional Ultrasound what to recommend and

Thanks for the great efforts you made


Last edited by Alhowaidi : 05-19-2020 at .

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Thank you for your reply. I have completed my information. There is a question in my head. Using even a LG hangers. The head is covered, but hangers hang when weights. The shaft of the rod is covered with silicone sleeves. I bought SoundCare Plus Professional Ultrasound what to recommend and
Thanks for the great efforts you made

Try to apply the ultrasound through the sleeve. It might need a 10-15% more intensity. If not working that way try to shorten the sleeve as much as possible without loosing the grip.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Wow, that looks like a nice machine. In my opinion longerstretch’s thread was a great intro for people to check out on establishing a routine. I think we should only apply the heat while stretched. However, achieving the stretching seems like a bit of a tough one. We don’t have enough upper limbs to do manual stretching while heating, extenders prohibit proper US absorption, and hangers cover too much of the shaft. It would be great if someone could establish a technique for reliable heating through silicone sleeves. I have tried shortening my LG sleeve as much as possible but it still covers half of the shaft. If we could establish how to heat through full length sleeves then maybe vacuum hanging with US would be a relatively straight forward approach.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
IS legs are reached best by angled penis sideways and to contract all the radiating striations twisting and bending the shaft your hand as a fulcrum is beneficial. It would be a learning curve but once reached IS muscles can be contracted strongly.
I have been struggling with ED and EQ issues and now finding that my BS and IS muscles are way too unbalanced have them number one priority at the moment.

Stretching only is not going to grow skeletal muscles and in fact heavy stretching and hanging may even be counterproductive to healthy functioning of the BS and IS muscles. That can be the reason why some heavy hangers and stretchers benefit a lot from kegeling. Contracting and and stretching contracted muscle is the definition of bodybuilding exercises.

I have come across with a term Kegel Stretches somewhere here at TP and that would be near enough starting point of penile bodybuilding. Stretching while kegeling is near about what I am doing here.
It turns out to be Penile bodybuilding when performed in cycles in the way that you do a set of contracting squeezes and releases not fully relaxing muscle while doing the set. So you contract and manually stretch contracted muscle like you were doing bicep curls. You take a little breaks between sets to relax these muscles completely before going for another set.
I have been doing 3-5 sets for each IS legs and for BS. First set is with workload that allows me to do 12-15 reps with out any difficulties. For each set I put more effort in it and in last set I pull against strong enough that it is difficult to achieve 6-8 reps.

I found by trying that doing cyclic fulcrum stretches as a pre workout exercise or between sets it activates muscles to contract way harder than doing main workout alone.
With cyclic fulcrum stretches I am talking about exercise this banned Janus guy introduced in one of his videos. It really is a powerful tool to possibly activate smooth muscle in CC to contract with skeletal muscle as they partly share common nervous brands.

At this point after only few weeks of exercising twice a week I can only confirm to have achieved a better control on these muscles and significant improvement on EQ.
I keep on doing it as it feels good and looks to be bringing healthy function in my unit.
Nothing comes quick while bodybuilding but putting some efforts and time to it we will see if it is even measurable after year or so.

Reference:
Anatomy of the Human Penis.pdf

Hi Kyrpa,

So after 2 month break I’m back doing some expansion work.

I had been trying your IC penile bodybuilding technique on and off these past weeks. I read the paper on anatomy of the penis, and I think I can visualise where the IC muscles run and end. I have been using one wrist as a fulcrum and placing shaft over it before contracting, and like you say, keeping it under slight tension even when releasing the contraction. I get a strong tug-back, just not sure it’s all IC or if the BC is helping. If striations of IC go along side and the top, then perhaps I’ve been angling it a bit too high - as in, it goes sideways over my wrist but also slightly upwards in direction of torso, but I guess it should be sideways and if anything downwards towards leg in order to stretch out the striations on the top. If you get what I mean?

I have suffered from bad EQ for some years now, and I suspect maybe it’s related to my PE - like above you mentioned that guys with heavy hanging/stretching schedules can suffer from low EQ because of the effect on the IC/BC muscles. I’d wondered actually in my case, whether those muscles had been elongated over the years and weren’t bulky enough to block blood flow for good EQ… So keen to keep doing these IC exercises, but really want to make sure I’m doing them right.

Interesting variation by the way, to do fulcrum stretching before or in between this.

And after all this time that you’ve done them, I guess your results are still very positive?

Cheers


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
Hi Kyrpa,

So after 2 month break I’m back doing some expansion work.

I had been trying your IC penile bodybuilding technique on and off these past weeks. I read the paper on anatomy of the penis, and I think I can visualise where the IC muscles run and end. I have been using one wrist as a fulcrum and placing shaft over it before contracting, and like you say, keeping it under slight tension even when releasing the contraction. I get a strong tug-back, just not sure it’s all IC or if the BC is helping. If striations of IC go along side and the top, then perhaps I’ve been angling it a bit too high - as in, it goes sideways over my wrist but also slightly upwards in direction of torso, but I guess it should be sideways and if anything downwards towards leg in order to stretch out the striations on the top. If you get what I mean?

I have suffered from bad EQ for some years now, and I suspect maybe it’s related to my PE - like above you mentioned that guys with heavy hanging/stretching schedules can suffer from low EQ because of the effect on the IC/BC muscles. I’d wondered actually in my case, whether those muscles had been elongated over the years and weren’t bulky enough to block blood flow for good EQ… So keen to keep doing these IC exercises, but really want to make sure I’m doing them right.

Interesting variation by the way, to do fulcrum stretching before or in between this.

And after all this time that you’ve done them, I guess your results are still very positive?

Cheers

Hello Waterman,

Nice to hear from you.

Reading your description I try to reflect your experiences to mine.

I found the isolated contraction for individual IC leg being most powerful when the I grab the penis with ok grip with all my fingers the at the halfway of the shaft the glans inside the fist..
Using my thumb as fulcrum bending the shaft to the right when using right hand. Left when using left hand.

I am not sure if we ever talked about this study, I think we did. Original link has die I think.

https://www.nat … les/3900730.pdf

This describes nicely the importance of the IC muscle in erection. It is easy to form analogue from testing the performance in to training the muscles. The strongest the IC contractility is suppose to be in the direction used in this study.
Isolating each leg demands the twists and bends I have used.

I do squeeze few sets randomly these days the EQ being my best in years. Now that I have been on decon I haven´t done anything.
When I start to elongate the thing again I will be exercising these again as a necessary tool in repertoire.
I am concidering these exercises very effecive on restoring erectile responses and EQ


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Has there been any more shrinking since last measurements?

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
Has there been any more shrinking since last measurements?

I have not measured but I doubt it. Maybe I will measure next week.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Kyrpa,

Since we all come to you with questions, I think we should do our part and contribute to your work. I was wondering, what would you like to see others try and/or experiment when doing this therapy?

I believe that we can take your example to replicate, while modifying things that can improve the treatment even better than it is right now for all of us.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Are there new amendments or studies coming up?

If there is a new study or amendments, please open a new topic because here the topics are overlapping and difficult to track

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