Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Thanks, you are the man Kyrpa.

Thank you so much Kyrpa, I really enjoy reading your comments based on reason, research, science and study. I deeply appreciate your contribution and sharing this golden information with us. I truly believe you are revolutionizing the PE world. Just like we’ve had mentors before, since all this became popular as the internet grew, You will have your own place in all the history of PE for decades to come. Thank you, friend.

I think I asked you this before, but perhaps since you are re-visiting the growth limiting issue, do you see any advantage in keeping the penis extended most of the time during the day and perhaps night while not exercising?

I believe we are at a point in which we are reaching the border with genetics. From the bodybuilding world, we know there are 2 things that stop us growing. One is the growth plates, which once they close, our tendons and connective tissue stop growing, involving the penis, our joints stop growing, our bones stop growing, and several other mechanisms in the body change. The second thing that stop us growing is pre encoded DNA sequences mediated by enzymes and proteins such as Myostatin that put control to growth and avoid literally growing forever without limits. Of course, if we did not have those DNA sequences our internal organs would grow to the point we literally explode and seize function rendering the species useless and set for extinction.

In my own previous rudimentary critical thinking, I remember many years ago coming to the conclusion that the ultimate way to grow our penises WITHOUT much of that limiting factors, is to somehow replicate through an hormonal environment and chemicals, a “controlled” puberty. But that has been the dream of many before me. How do we “unlock” our growth plates. At least temporarily. We could literally grow a couple inches taller for example. And of course, we could literally grow every single tissue of our penises. How to achieve that? It is the million dollar question.

As you have previously pointed out, many risks involved in trying to do so, some of them the short and long term side effects of chemicals crossing the brain barrier, effects on over growth of internal organs, heart valves, arteries, etc. We simply do not have enough science and research for that.

I do believe though, that we could reach a close approximate to an environment that allows for extra genetic potential growth through hormones and research peptides/chemicals.

Thank you my friend,

I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I would hold them horses still. Based on the lack of criticism and the minuscule loading rates of the graphs I have spend hours to produce, this revolution sounds very silent.

If I manage to rattle some cages and waking some sleeping brains with work I am doing and maybe some will follow ,that would be great success already.
I will be here for a limited time trying to build a bigger sexual organ and during the time doing everything I possibly can for refreshing the thinking.

I don´t know if the use of all day extended penis would have allowed more gains or denied them at the rate I had.
If you are already gaining BPFSL 1mm every 5 days for 60 days straight , hoping anything more would be delusional.

Thats because the strain achieved during exercising the three days in row usually panned out as a permanent elongation after two days of rest.
There was none spare potential left to be realised. You can see all this form the graphs which are plenty.

I don´t know if it will be needed at some point of this journey, but to date I did not need it. It does not fit very well in the strategy, the principle of reaching the maximal strain aided with thermal transition, then cool it down in the maximal length. Then leave it resting to remodel.
If everything is based on the displacement, the achieved strain percentage topping certain threshold , and repeat it enough times that will be all, you don´t need to do anything else. Once you stop gaining you go for the extended break.

Now the decon strategy, I must say is the most hypothetical approach I have had . It is based on loosely connected points sketch from the knowledge in hands.
My intention is to downgrade the cellular residual stress caused by the rapid increase in size of the tissue.
With chosen strategies to disturb the ECM equilibrium and reduce the pressure natural decay of the residual stress would never do.
Using the extender keeping the shaft elongated , not stretched at the limits, setting the new level of pre-stress which would be the new homeostasis where to continue.

Never done anywhere, and if I turn up to be gaining like previously there is no way to prove that it was because of the strategy.
Lacking the research facilities and having incomplete knowledge this is all we can do. Try things and see what pans out.

Perhaps just as ESWT can potentially have its place with US therapy, The Priapus shot could be useful too. I looked into that technology a few years ago and is perfectly doable at home. It is as simple as drawing a small amount of blood into a centrifuge, then activating the plasma to release growth factors and injecting it immediately into different spots in the shaft. The reasons why I never went ahead to pursue it, is because I did not quite found the proper environment to use this therapy. Never made sense to me to do one session of shots and expect magic results. It does not work that way. I am convinced the Priapus shot has absolutely wonderful potential, BUT as along as is part of a different therapy AND with multiple Priapus shots sessions spaced out strategically to keep promoting growth.

Another reason why I did not experiment nor researched it further, is because of cost. It requires the investment of the equipment. Not a high unaffordable cost, but unnecessary at that time in a scale of priorities.

Since the Priapus shot due to its growth factors work on muscle and tendon tissue, we would have to determine if its maximum potential could be by doing it at the end of the three consecutive days, or at the end of a full cycle.

From Sexual Wellness for Men - FL Center for Hormones and Wellness

"During the Priapus Shot® procedure, the doctor or nurse begins by applying a numbing cream to the penis and arm. Blood is then drawn from the arm in the same way as with a blood test.

Using a centrifuge and a special method, Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) is then isolated with the resultant growth and healing factors. PRP shots have been used for all sorts of remedies, including muscle and tendon injuries. This medical process can help rejuvenate parts of the body, including the penis, to help restore them to their more youthful state.

Using a very thin needle, the growth and healing factors are then injected into very specific areas the penis. Because this area has been numbed with the anesthetic cream, the patient feels little or no pain.

The patient may notice an increase in penis size as well as enjoy the effects of the Priapus Shot immediately after the procedure. As the healing process continues, the patient will continue to experience improved results for about 6 – 8 weeks after treatment."

From Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) Injection: How It Works | HSS

"Platelet-rich plasma has been found to significantly enhance the healing process, and using a PRP injection for shoulder pain caused by rotator cuff tears, for Achilles tendon ruptures and for other soft-tissue injuries is becoming more common.

PRP has also been demonstrated to improve function and reduce pain in people who have tendonitis or chronic tendinosis conditions such as tennis elbow or golfer’s elbow.

Some of the key advantages of PRP injections are that they can reduce the need for anti-inflammatories or stronger medications like opioids. In addition, the side effects of PRP injections are very limited because, since the injections are created from your own blood, your body will not reject or react negatively to them."

Thrombin and Calcium Chloride is used to activate the Growth Factors in the plasma.

Attached a table with all the Growth Factors found in the Platelet Rich Plasma.

What is the best ultrasound machine so far, the quality and the standards, do you show me a high-quality device

Yeah, the guys had PRP shots down here have not gained anything from the singular or the series of treatments.
The main reasons being the lack of prove the treatment will really do anything on penis, then the treatments should have been ongoing process as you suggested and mainly because any of the treated patients were not in the gaining PE progress during the treatments.

I would still choose LIPUS over the once a week or once in the cycle PRP if I was needing the anabolic environment in the penile tissue to be maintained for weeks.
Now that you have the possibility as well , why don´t you go for it.

Low setting of the US PRO 2000 is actually LIPUS treatment with 0,08w/cm^2 , 1:4 pulse ratio at 100Hz pulse rate.

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What is the best ultrasound machine so far, did you tell us?

Absolutely, I am very intrigued about the LIPIUS treatment and I am looking into it too.

The reason why I thought before many times about PRP, is because these treatment is used on penises that are not being exercises. Meaning, there is no tissue that needs recovery nor growth. It has been my curiosity for a long time, how these treatment would result on a penis that is currently being put under stress relaxation, heat, tension. Perhaps that is where all those growth factors do their magic.

Amongst the users here the exact one you have. Otherwise we would need to buy equipment spending thousands of dollars for the machine.

I don´t know what machine waterman888 has, he has second hand professional equipment in use.

Do you have the device name or show me it?

I am planning to use it in the future excerices during the cooldown process. It does not elevate temperature at all, purely non-thermal US treatment.

PS . the list you provided has nothing LIPUS won´t provide concerning growth factors etc.
The difference being you are sure about it happening in targeted tissue with LIPUS. The growthfactors are formed in the tissue with no need to try to deliver the substances into.

No I don´t

Just FYI, here is the prototype device I referenced earlier in this thread. It allows for very precise strain adjustment and measurement. In the initial trials, I’ve gone as high as 6lbs of load with no slippage at all. Measurements are highly repeatable.

There is a continuous readout of load +- 0.01lbs so it is very interesting to watch the load fluctuate in real time as the tissues relax and tighten.

Just as a point of reference, I deliberately have not done any type of PE for quite a long time to attempt to establish a neutral baseline. Given that this was the first strain in many months, Inwas able to achieve very high strain under heat with relatively minimal load; e.g. approx 9% strain from cold and approx 7% strain from the warm conditioned BPFSL to the final heated strain under a load of 4lbs.

Nice looking extraterrestrial apparatus. Thank you for sharing.

I ordered a portable fishing scale to prepare a similar setup. Mine is analog though. I did not find convenient to deal with digital screen with batteries. I prefer the good old gauge. I would use digital only if I had the opportunity to install a redundant analog system in case of failure as a backup.

I originally used analogue. There are two reasons I switched. 1st, the analogue ones with enough precision were all quite large. 2nd, they were typically spring scales. I actually have one that can be swapped in with a couple screws if I wanted to convert over to a creep methodology. However given the considerable amount of research and analysis I’ve done, I strongly believe that a better result is possible utilizing a specific stress relaxation protocol. This is simply not possible with an analogue spring scale.

It actually took some time to locate a digital scale without a lockout feature. Almost all of them lock the reading after 5 seconds because they are primarily made for fishing at the more economical price point. This one is very easy to change the battery and doesn’t lock the reading. It is providing enormous value during the testing. For example, my protocol has an ambient temp cool down at full strain during each sub cycle. Most here recognize that if you lock the strain and remove the heat, the load increases, sometimes even to the point of extreme discomfort as the collagenous tissues contract. I now know precisely how much the load increases. I also now know that the tissue contraction is neither linear nor constant. Actually what happens every single time is that the load climbs with a sort of cyclical sigmoidal function. That is, the tissues contracts slowly at first despite the fact that heat loss is most rapid immediately after removing the heat source. There is an obvious toe of the curve where the tissue temp crosses a threshold and contraction accelerates rapidly. But instead of progressing smoothly to the decelerating and then deloading zone, the tissue autonomously cycles through a series of initially ascending peaks and valleys followed by a series of descending peaks and valleys.

This is very interesting and I need to give it a lot more thought. My first impression is that tissue contraction accelerates too quickly resulting in a stiffening of the viscoelastic tissue. As the load increases at fixed strain, stress relaxation accelerates and overwhelms the load increase driven by tissue contraction. Once the load has decreased enough, the tissue contraction accelerates again causing a stiffening, followed by another stress relaxation. This cycle repeats until the load decreases below 2lbs.

I imagine if I waited long enough, the stress relaxation process would reach a floor around 0.5lbs but I don’t see much benefit there. I allow for relaxation over a 5 minute period right now at which point I completely deload the device for 5 minutes and prep for the next heated strain.

As a side note, I get the feeling already that the rate of deloading during cool down is highly indicative of how much more strain is possible in a single workout. But it doesn’t really matter right now.