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Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
It’s very expensive. AutoSound Hands-Free Ultrasound for Richmar Therasound is almost a device with the accessory costs $ 2,483.29 There are many devices I do not know what to choose my budget 1000 dollars

That sonopulse one should be good by the looks of it.

Not through the most significant appearance of quality and performance in research for nearly a month on devices using devices from $ 700 to good specifications but all are made in China, including SoundCare Plus Professional that starts from $ 1,000 to 3000 that are manufactured in the United States and Europe there Difference in price, quality and specifications, but Ibramed S-33 Sonopulse is a Brazilian industry in Sobawlo, the value of the device is $ 400, but the monument in the websites. The ibramed s-33 sonopulse Brazil does not have international shipping. My research discovered this, including a therapeutic company in China and other companies. I don’t know what to choose from devices. Someone help or advise me. My budget is $ 1000.

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Not through the most significant appearance of quality and performance in research for nearly a month on devices using devices from $ 700 to good specifications but all are made in China, including SoundCare Plus Professional that starts from $ 1,000 to 3000 that are manufactured in the United States and Europe there Difference in price, quality and specifications, but Ibramed S-33 Sonopulse is a Brazilian industry in Sobawlo, the value of the device is $ 400, but the monument in the websites. The ibramed s-33 sonopulse Brazil does not have international shipping. My research discovered this, including a therapeutic company in China and other companies. I don’t know what to choose from devices. Someone help or advise me. My budget is $ 1000.

I think we have already evaluated the choices. We don´t know nothing about just about any of the chines one´s as they are not telling the BNR values.
Also some of them may be referring the output (w/cm^2) in pulsed mode, in the continuous mode the max. output can be 60-70% of it.

For $1500 budget there is also US-751 (1MHz&3Mhz) ,which stands out being quality choice with very low BNR values.

PS. I remind you that I am running on budget choice here with two 150$ a piece machines.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Not through the most significant appearance of quality and performance in research for nearly a month on devices using devices from $ 700 to good specifications but all are made in China, including SoundCare Plus Professional that starts from $ 1,000 to 3000 that are manufactured in the United States and Europe there Difference in price, quality and specifications, but Ibramed S-33 Sonopulse is a Brazilian industry in Sobawlo, the value of the device is $ 400, but the monument in the websites. The ibramed s-33 sonopulse Brazil does not have international shipping. My research discovered this, including a therapeutic company in China and other companies. I don’t know what to choose from devices. Someone help or advise me. My budget is $ 1000.

Seems to me you might be overthinking this. We are already successfully using small $130 budget devices from a reputable manufacturer. You can certainly buy a $1000 unit if you want, but your result will almost certainly be the same as ours. If you opt to risk getting a cheap unregulated unit from china or india you’ll possibly have the same experience that I did. My unit from india didn’t function correctly despite costing more than the cheap US Pro 2000 I use now.

Originally Posted by Tutt
You’re welcome. Happy to help where I can. Kyrpa and a few others have really sped the process along through their willingness to stick temp probes into their penis and define the boundaries of US heating. If not for that, I would’ve have to perform that groundwork myself.

Please note that my background is bio-engineering and I have nearly 20 years in advanced R&D for a Fortune 100 company. Consequently, I’m very well grounded in biology, physiology, anatomy, physics, etc. Because I’m restricted to self-experimentation and don’t have the luxury of large sample sets for proper controlled trials, it simply won’t be possible to control for some of the variables that would allow for optimization of protocol. For example, I only had one shot at that first workout and I will never be able to repeat it for similar results. The tissue is now changed. So I will have to use my background and lean on a larger amount of interpolation and extrapolation than I would ever be comfortable with in a less restricted setting.

If you are not quite familiar with these topics, please proceed cautiously and realize that some of us know where the limits are without having to tear a ligament to find them.

Also, I don’t have a lot of runway left for self experimentation. It is very possible that 2cm additional length would result in complaints from the Mrs. I already hit the cervix if I’m not careful. If the growth was slow enough, I might be able to push temporarily up into the 22cm+ BPEL realm but I have no doubt I would get complaints if I didn’t stop and allow things to revert back around 20cm.

I have some theories on girth work as well, but I’m quite unwilling to get above 14.5cm EG. So I’m not sure it’s even worth the effort to build the apparatus as I’d have to stop after just 0.5cm. Again, if it was slow, I could possibly do a full 1cm just to prove the concept and then allow for some reduction over time. We’ll see.

Your concerns are perfectly understandable and extremely realistic. It is a fact that our society has been desensitized about size due to pornography and other influences. A penis 5.5” in length is perfectly fine and average for all women. It comes down to personal experience and personal ambitions. This therapy will certainly help those who can really use a couple of extra inches. Myself, it is just a personal quest to reach the foot in length. I am single, so at least I have the chance to warn any potential female who I come across with before is too late into a relationship.

Your own research study proves something very important and perhaps very promising, which is fast gains. Certainly this might not be the same reality for everybody, but is definitely a positive sign.

Since I do not have the same extensive experience y’all have in engineering and scientific methods, my desire to contribute pass more by creating understandable guides for everybody to follow with pictures and step-by-step instructions. As we gather more research and tweak each step of the process, these guides will be more clear, standard and universal to fit “most”

I am very motivated to start soon, and EXTREMELY intrigued to measure the reaction of my tissues. My Septum became my dead end MANY YEARS AGO. I believe the last time I saw length gain was in 2008. I unlocked the way to grow girth in the last 5 years but length does not move due to the Septum. This will certainly be a fun ride.

Originally Posted by igigi
Your concerns are perfectly understandable and extremely realistic. It is a fact that our society has been desensitized about size due to pornography and other influences. A penis 5.5” in length is perfectly fine and average for all women. It comes down to personal experience and personal ambitions. This therapy will certainly help those who can really use a couple of extra inches. Myself, it is just a personal quest to reach the foot in length. I am single, so at least I have the chance to warn any potential female who I come across with before is too late into a relationship.

Your own research study proves something very important and perhaps very promising, which is fast gains. Certainly this might not be the same reality for everybody, but is definitely a positive sign.

Since I do not have the same extensive experience y’all have in engineering and scientific methods, my desire to contribute pass more by creating understandable guides for everybody to follow with pictures and step-by-step instructions. As we gather more research and tweak each step of the process, these guides will be more clear, standard and universal to fit “most”

I am very motivated to start soon, and EXTREMELY intrigued to measure the reaction of my tissues. My Septum became my dead end MANY YEARS AGO. I believe the last time I saw length gain was in 2008. I unlocked the way to grow girth in the last 5 years but length does not move due to the Septum. This will certainly be a fun ride.


I don’t know about reaching a 12” BPEL unless you are starting from 9-10”. The combination of high heat, moderate load, and low volume is likely the best way to see large gains, but there isn’t any evidence yet of unlimited growth potential.

For anyone reading, I’d caution not to assume that my measured results were normal. I’m quite confident that it was an anomalous occurrence due to previous tissue condition. I had previously achieved a BPEL not too far below this. I then deliberately avoided PE for 2 years to allow the tissue to seek a neutral state. I fully anticipated that the very first treatment could have unrepeatable results. As I said in previous post, you only get one chance at the first treatment. Results will be different every time after that.

For those interested, I’ll be following a 4 set protocol as follows;

Set 1… Creep @ 1kg load with FIR heat above and below for 20 minutes.

Lock strain and cool for 5 min. Deload and rest for 5 min.

Set 2… FIR and US heat @ 1kg load for 5 minutes. Increase strain 1mm/min until 1.5kg load target. Heated stress relax until load drops to 0.8kg or 5 min (whichever comes first).

Cool fully strained for 5 min. Deload and rest 5 min.

Set 3… same as above but with 2kg target.

Set 4… same as above but with 2.5kg target.

Treatment will be repeated every monday and thursday for 7 total treatments per phase. There will be a 6 week rest between phases. Once growth stalls from one phase to the next there will be a 210 day decon. The hypothesis is that this protocol would be able to avoid the extended decon for quite a long time.

Originally Posted by Tutt
For those interested, I’ll be following a 4 set protocol as follows;

Set 1… Creep @ 1kg load with FIR heat above and below for 20 minutes.

Lock strain and cool for 5 min. Deload and rest for 5 min.

Set 2… FIR and US heat @ 1kg load for 5 minutes. Increase strain 1mm/min until 1.5kg load target. Heated stress relax until load drops to 0.8kg or 5 min (whichever comes first).

Cool fully strained for 5 min. Deload and rest 5 min.

Set 3… same as above but with 2kg target.

Set 4… same as above but with 2.5kg target.

Treatment will be repeated every monday and thursday for 7 total treatments per phase. There will be a 6 week rest between phases. Once growth stalls from one phase to the next there will be a 210 day decon. The hypothesis is that this protocol would be able to avoid the extended decon for quite a long time.

VERY interesting approach. So your protocol will be more like US stress relaxation. Instead of doing cold stress relaxation and then apply US for heavier weight. You might be onto something completely new and even better there. We still have so much more to test and try.

Originally Posted by Tutt
I don’t know about reaching a 12” BPEL unless you are starting from 9-10”. The combination of high heat, moderate load, and low volume is likely the best way to see large gains, but there isn’t any evidence yet of unlimited growth potential.

For anyone reading, I’d caution not to assume that my measured results were normal. I’m quite confident that it was an anomalous occurrence due to previous tissue condition. I had previously achieved a BPEL not too far below this. I then deliberately avoided PE for 2 years to allow the tissue to seek a neutral state. I fully anticipated that the very first treatment could have unrepeatable results. As I said in previous post, you only get one chance at the first treatment. Results will be different every time after that.

Yes is not easy. Even in porn, they claim some have 12 inches of dick but that is fake news actually. Nobody in porn is really 12 inches. The biggest guy is probably 10”. So achieving a penis 12” in length put us in a category of maybe 0.01% of the population. I am currently 9” BPSFL. I achieved in the past 9.25” of BPSFL but that required so much time on my dick that I don’t have anymore. Also, it never made sense to me the old belief that you gotta keep increasing the load hanging more and more. The tissues just go adapting to the load and there is no growth after some time. In fact, the topic that I always used to bring up is these Asian guys lifting weights with their penises. Some of them pull trucks and even an airplane with a rope attached to their dicks. Does that means that after a couple years they have a hose several feet in length hanging between their legs? NO. They never gained a single inch by doing that. Why? because of tissue adaptation. Is the wrong approach.

On the other hand, my girth is not an issue. Currently at 16.5cm (aprox 6.25”), I am sure I can bring it up to around 7.5” if I ever succeed in reaching a foot in length or even more. A foot is a goal, but certainly not a limit. If I can keep going and still growing, The Gods are my witnesses, I will keep going. There will always be a freak nympho looking out for one like that LOL.

Hey, is it true what I heard about ultrasound devices, do we have to calibrate the devices every 6 months to continue performance and quality of the device? Has anyone heard that?

Originally Posted by igigi

Since I do not have the same extensive experience y’all have in engineering and scientific methods, my desire to contribute pass more by creating understandable guides for everybody to follow with pictures and step-by-step instructions. As we gather more research and tweak each step of the process, these guides will be more clear, standard and universal to fit “most”

This contribution would be as great as the ones from the other guys in this thread. A lot of people like me would like to help but don’t have the knowledge nor the time to vulgarize the information present for now. That being said we would love to have a protocol that is used simply for maximum results.

You guys are all doing an amazing job and seem to be changing the PE world for the better. Thank you for your hard work and your willingness to share the results. We might be “only” be talking about having bigger penises, but for a lot of guys who don’t like their dick size (me included), this is something that can help bringing more fulfillment in life.

Edit: I will see if I can adapt the results to using an extender.


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Started August 2018: BPEL/MEG 5.7" x 5" - Now: 6.1" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: BPEL/MEG 8.5" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Hey, is it true what I heard about ultrasound devices, do we have to calibrate the devices every 6 months to continue performance and quality of the device? Has anyone heard that?

They do that in medical modalities for providing guaranteed treatments for the customers.
Usually they test the intensity performance. Such testing devices are sold starting from $350 upwards.

None of us does not have and I am sure we can live without it.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by igigi
VERY interesting approach. So your protocol will be more like US stress relaxation. Instead of doing cold stress relaxation and then apply US for heavier weight. You might be onto something completely new and even better there. We still have so much more to test and try.

We have been discussing these things with Tutt for some time privately and there need to be this kind of development.

The foundation of the protocol Tutt is running has the same premise as I have had.
We are finding the way for the maximal strain of the collagenous tissue in every exercise with minimal structural damages utilizing heat and stress-relaxation.

The growth triggering inducement is the essential displacement, the threshold strain achieved during the exercise.
It is clear that these growth spurts come in phases. Once the respond starts to diminish you are forced for extended rest.
Tutt is bringing this to the level where the rest has been scheduled before we get to the point of diminishing returns with the short 21 -days phases he is running.
Of course if we are able to develop the actual exercise at the level the maximal potential can be accomplished in 21 days that would be even greater but I have doubts on it. We’ll see if it can be done.
I have hit the wall between 30 to 45 days.

I am in the favor of this kind development as well, having similar basis of the understanding of the process.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
We have been discussing these things with Tutt for some time privately and there need to be this kind of development.

The foundation of the protocol Tutt is running has the same premise as I have had.
We are finding the way for the maximal strain of the collagenous tissue in every exercise with minimal structural damages utilizing heat and stress-relaxation.

The growth triggering inducement is the essential displacement, the threshold strain achieved during the exercise.
It is clear that these growth spurts come in phases. Once the respond starts to diminish you are forced for extended rest.
Tutt is bringing this to the level where the rest has been scheduled before we get to the point of diminishing returns with the short 21 -days phases he is running.
Of course if we are able to develop the actual exercise at the level the maximal potential can be accomplished in 21 days that would be even greater but I have doubts on it. We’ll see if it can be done.
I have hit the wall between 30 to 45 days.

I am in the favor of this kind development as well, having similar basis of the understanding of the process.

Absolutely fascinating! Thank you very much to both of you. I agree with you in this “less is more” approach, which is completely opposite to the conventional old belief of using more and more weights to force the tissues to give up which has been pretty much proven not to work. More people have achieved more gains by combining manual stretches and jelquing than hanging 20-30 pounds every day for hours.

Kyrpa

Do you mean advise me on this device?
Continuous: 2 W/cm2, Pulsed: 3 W/cm2

Is it sufficient for 2w in continuous mode, the treatment needs 2.5 Is there a problem if using 2w What do you advise me to buy or not

http://www.itoc … roducts/us-751/

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